Official Gear Rumor Thread

13875921:hot.pocket said:
New ski for the lineup, essentially replacing the Tahoe 106, stay tuned for details.

We already have a slimmed down Bibby in the PB&J.

Is it going to be as burly as the 106? I'm thinking of copping some 106's but I'll wait if y'all are making a badass update.
 
13876756:Kbob94 said:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bde6-LbHtFl/

Damn. I said they were a little too white but that base is actually making them look really fucking cool. Another great designing job from CB.
 
13877180:powpatrol said:
Marker hyping something up on there instagram,competitor to the salomon/atomic shift binding maybe

I'm guessing full tech....putting something out like the shift would kill the kingpin
 
New G3 binding, called the Zed.
https://www.wildsnow.com/23680/g3-zed-ski-binding-review-look-new/

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That (women's?) Lange Superleggera boot looks like it has a world cup heel protector on top of the heel lug... To solve their denting problems?
 
13877887:onenerdykid said:
That (women's?) Lange Superleggera boot looks like it has a world cup heel protector on top of the heel lug... To solve their denting problems?

What were their denting problems?
 
13877902:powpatrol said:
What were their denting problems?

Part of making a light boot is plastic selection, and whatever blend/version they used in the Freetour was getting dented more easily than normal. If you check out the Blister review of it, you'll see what I mean.
 
13877905:onenerdykid said:
Part of making a light boot is plastic selection, and whatever blend/version they used in the Freetour was getting dented more easily than normal. If you check out the Blister review of it, you'll see what I mean.

Thanks :)
 
13877992:.MASSHOLE. said:
https://www.friflyt.no/Ski/Marker-lanserer-lett-techbinding

Here it is.

Meh.

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Meh Just another superlight that will blow up the second you hit any sort of variable
 
13878001:Profahoben_212 said:
Meh Just another superlight that will blow up the second you hit any sort of variable

Sort of disappointing, but still cool (if your into that sort of thing). I was really hoping for an updated kingpin with elastic travel in the toe, kind of like the Tecton.
 
13878352:tomPietrowski said:
Those are the staff pinnacle 118's mine should be here this week. They also did a 95 which looks sick, i have them on my instagram if you want to see them

Yeah my buddy got a pair too....pretty tight
 
13878377:search4freshies said:

Im pretty disappointed in it really. Why would they not put a toe lug on that boot, becuase they only want you using there bindings. But making it so you cant use it in alpine bindings or more crucially the shift means it lacks that apeal as a 1 boot or freeride boot. Here in Whistler loads of people just use one boot for touring and the hill and these can not be it. Shame really as im sure it has some cool other features.
 
13878377:search4freshies said:

Fair concerns. As with any boot I would caution against anyone putting any real faith in stated ROM and stated last. The numbers they throw around are total bullshit.

This is supposed to be postioned between the Vulcan and the TLT series in Dynafits line. I'm willing to bet the S/Lab will ski better but the pro tour will walk better.

I've got a wide foot and a high instep. It's part of the reason I became a boot-fitter. The fit could appeal to me but what I'm really interested in is a boot that's minimalistic, with the Dynafit shark nose design, with the Scarpa in-step strap, that skis better than the TLT series for summer ski mountaineering missions. I got pretty sick of being in my Vulcans/Beast Carbons for overnight steep skiing missions this last spring/summer but I can't get get over the the TLT series skis.

It'd be nice to have something in between the two.

As far as price goes, you'll definitely end up paying the Dynafit tax. If I were buying retail that alone would be enough to turn me off of most of their products.

**This post was edited on Jan 10th 2018 at 2:22:06pm
 
13878384:tomPietrowski said:
Im pretty disappointed in it really. Why would they not put a toe lug on that boot, becuase they only want you using there bindings. But making it so you cant use it in alpine bindings or more crucially the shift means it lacks that apeal as a 1 boot or freeride boot. Here in Whistler loads of people just use one boot for touring and the hill and these can not be it. Shame really as im sure it has some cool other features.

Same. Not impressed. Also, the fit is wack and it seems like a very weird boot for specific feet. I don't think it will do too well when it comes out.
 
13878388:Profahoben_212 said:
Same. Not impressed. Also, the fit is wack and it seems like a very weird boot for specific feet. I don't think it will do too well when it comes out.

Have you been in it?

Whats the instep height like. How progressive does the flex feel?
 
13878384:tomPietrowski said:
Im pretty disappointed in it really. Why would they not put a toe lug on that boot, becuase they only want you using there bindings. But making it so you cant use it in alpine bindings or more crucially the shift means it lacks that apeal as a 1 boot or freeride boot. Here in Whistler loads of people just use one boot for touring and the hill and these can not be it. Shame really as im sure it has some cool other features.

I don't think Dynafit is trying to compete in the one boot quiver market. Which, I think is probably a smart call.

The average Dynafit consumer isn't the ski bum trying to make it all happen on minimal money and gear. Even if they did stick a toe lug on this boot I would point people to 6 other options for a 1 boot quiver before I showed them anything from Dynafit.
 
13878396:Profahoben_212 said:
Have not been in. But from what I've read it is very clear it won't work for me. Something like 102 last? Maybe wider? Here is a ton if info on it if you wanna read up on her
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314505

Dynafit HOJI unicorn boot -

I've read through that.

I'm biased as I've got a foot like a brick that's been in a ski boot for 15 years. A truly wide shell hat I can through custom liner in for ankle retention is really appealing to me and a surprising amount of people I've met over the years.
 
13878393:Peach. said:
I don't think Dynafit is trying to compete in the one boot quiver market. Which, I think is probably a smart call.

The average Dynafit consumer isn't the ski bum trying to make it all happen on minimal money and gear. Even if they did stick a toe lug on this boot I would point people to 6 other options for a 1 boot quiver before I showed them anything from Dynafit.

Yeah But I figured the Hoji bot would be there boot to try to break into that market. That market is huge and it would be nice to have an option from them in the mix.
 
13878398:Peach. said:
I've read through that.

I'm biased as I've got a foot like a brick that's been in a ski boot for 15 years. A truly wide shell hat I can through custom liner in for ankle retention is really appealing to me and a surprising amount of people I've met over the years.

Yeah. You said it right above....i was hoping for a powerful all mountain boot. That's not what it is.....probably smart by dynafit to not try to compete with the freetour/hawx/everything dominating right now. Still...not what I was hoping for
 
13878400:tomPietrowski said:
Yeah But I figured the Hoji bot would be there boot to try to break into that market. That market is huge and it would be nice to have an option from them in the mix.

Definitely. They dipped their toes that way with the beast/beat carbon but it just doesn't stand up to something like the Lange Freetour (sans it's durability issues)

Does it tour better? Yes. Slightly. But it's still no where near a TLT, Backland, or even the Maestrale RS.

Does it ski better? Absolutely not.

I'd still pick the S/Lab over the anything Dynafit has dreamed up over the last few years if I was forced to have a single boot.

With that being said, I really think you should beg, steal, and/or commit felony fraud to have a dedicated boot/binding setup if you're anything close to serious about human powered skiing.
 
13878400:tomPietrowski said:
Yeah But I figured the Hoji bot would be there boot to try to break into that market. That market is huge and it would be nice to have an option from them in the mix.

Seems to me that our beloved sport of skiing is so niche, that companies like dynafit arent obligated (or even wanting) to do this sort of thing. Unlike other industries, lets use the bike industry as an example, when the ski market develops demands not every ski company holds that demand within their scope. Bike analogy: all of the sudden there's demand for a new tire (650b, plus size, 9er, etc) or a new standard emerges, and every manufacturer needs to have it in their lineup. BUT when demand emerges for a one boot to do-it-all, dynafit seems to say, "thats not what we are doing here" and leaves it to the other guys.

Not sure if I'm articulating myself perfectly here, but I hope you get what I mean.
 
13878409:search4freshies said:
Seems to me that our beloved sport of skiing is so niche, that companies like dynafit arent obligated (or even wanting) to do this sort of thing. Unlike other industries, lets use the bike industry as an example, when the ski market develops demands not every ski company holds that demand within their scope. Bike analogy: all of the sudden there's demand for a new tire (650b, plus size, 9er, etc) or a new standard emerges, and every manufacturer needs to have it in their lineup. BUT when demand emerges for a one boot to do-it-all, dynafit seems to say, "thats not what we are doing here" and leaves it to the other guys.

Not sure if I'm articulating myself perfectly here, but I hope you get what I mean.

I completely agree.

If I were the big swinging dick at Dynafit I'd have a negative interest in marketing a crossover boot when the S/Lab and the Freetour beat them to market by multiple years.

Where Dynafit is expanding their offerings is the fitness uphilling crowd. Not my cup of tea but from a business stand point is a smart move. That segment of the market hasn't really been marketed to exclusively. And it's exploding.
 
13878408:Peach. said:
With that being said, I really think you should beg, steal, and/or commit felony fraud to have a dedicated boot/binding setup if you're anything close to serious about human powered skiing.

I think actually unless you are doing a load of multi day hut trips you should be ok with one boot to do it all. Who wants to buy twice if you dont have too? The Lupos, XTD and pinnacles of the boot world have meant the one boot to do it all is now a reality
 
13878414:tomPietrowski said:
I think actually unless you are doing a load of multi day hut trips you should be ok with one boot to do it all. Who wants to buy twice if you dont have too? The Lupos, XTD and pinnacles of the boot world have meant the one boot to do it all is now a reality

I agree with this. For most people a crossover boot is fine Peach....ever tried the hawx XTD? The boot is insane. I have no quarrels doing long trips with it...huge range of movement and super light....and a day at Squaw is more within its ability inbounds. The crossover boots are getting better and better.
 
13878414:tomPietrowski said:
I think actually unless you are doing a load of multi day hut trips you should be ok with one boot to do it all. Who wants to buy twice if you dont have too? The Lupos, XTD and pinnacles of the boot world have meant the one boot to do it all is now a reality

I really used to be in that thought camp. And honestly the options have never been better than they are now. We're close to a no-compromise boot but we're just not there yet.

If I'm doing more than 3K vertical in a day (which is nearly everyday in the BC for most ski-tourists in my neck of the woods) I don't want the extra weight and restricted ROM of an alpine style boot with a walk mode and tech fittings.
 
13878415:Profahoben_212 said:
I agree with this. For most people a crossover boot is fine Peach....ever tried the hawx XTD? The boot is insane. I have no quarrels doing long trips with it...huge range of movement and super light....and a day at Squaw is more within its ability inbounds. The crossover boots are getting better and better.

I have. I'm a big fan, actually.

The pair I tried weren't mine to keep. If they were I feel confident that I could've solved some of the fit issues I was having and been reasonably happy in it for 90% of the skiing I do.

Edit caveat:

I haven't skied it in alpine bindings. Only Radicat FT's. I'm reluctant to believe it would have the same suspension and power transfer as my RX 130's in a pair of pivots only because of its reduced mass. But, I haven't had the chance to test it. So I have no evidence to back up that assumption.

I know Cy has spent some time in it for Blister. I'd be interested to hear his thoughts on wether or not we've reached the one-boot-quiver era yet.

**This post was edited on Jan 10th 2018 at 3:01:10pm

**This post was edited on Jan 10th 2018 at 3:02:41pm
 
13878417:Peach. said:
I have. I'm a big fan, actually.

The pair I tried weren't mine to keep. If they were I feel confident that I could've solved some of the fit issues I was having and been reasonably happy in it for 90% of the skiing I do.

Edit caveat:

I haven't skied it in alpine bindings. Only Radicat FT's. I'm reluctant to believe it would have the same suspension and power transfer as my RX 130's in a pair of pivots only because of its reduced mass. But, I haven't had the chance to test it. So I have no evidence to back up that assumption.

I know Cy has spent some time in it for Blister. I'd be interested to hear his thoughts on wether or not we've reached the one-boot-quiver era yet.

**This post was edited on Jan 10th 2018 at 3:01:10pm

**This post was edited on Jan 10th 2018 at 3:02:41pm

Its as close as you can get really. Awesome walk and great power downhill. Why give up DH performance to get a few grams weight saving and possibly slightly better walk mode?

There are so many great boots in that category now that really unless BC skiing is about the uphill for you I find it hard to justify a true touring boot these days.
 
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