Moment Skis Discussion Thread

[Corey_O132]

Damn dog. That's wild. Though, I will say I was on some ON3Ps for 3 seasons, and they're supposed to have pretty tough edges, and I broke those multiple times over the course of their use. I feel like stuff like that, and this with the bases, just comes down to and wear and tear (plus skiing a lot of days in a season). But yeah, the Durasuft 4001 was the toughest stuff you could get for years. Hopefully this 7500 carbon series is better.

I'd buy those off you depending the price of course (if your willing to sell). Just PM me if your interested.

I'd say though, you could base weld those, and give it a base grind if your base high, & check with a true bar to see that your all set again. If you did that you'd be fine for another season if the repair work is done correctly. What's great about those Moments is that if you need to base grind you can do quite a few passes on the machine bc the base material is so thick compared to most other skis.

I guess. This is 2 seasons use. I've stopped putting money into them because they seem to be incurably base high. I've had similar issues with my old pbj's too. Meanwhile my 4frnt and k2's have no coreshots at all. I dunno maybe just bad luck when I ride my moments.

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[RAcecARman]

Damn dog. That's wild. Though, I will say I was on some ON3Ps for 3 seasons, and they're supposed to have pretty tough edges, and I broke those multiple times over the course of their use. I feel like stuff like that, and this with the bases, just comes down to and wear and tear (plus skiing a lot of days in a season). But yeah, the Durasuft 4001 was the toughest stuff you could get for years. Hopefully this 7500 carbon series is better.

I'd buy those off you depending the price of course (if your willing to sell). Just PM me if your interested.

I'd say though, you could base weld those, and give it a base grind if your base high, & check with a true bar to see that your all set again. If you did that you'd be fine for another season if the repair work is done correctly. What's great about those Moments is that if you need to base grind you can do quite a few passes on the machine bc the base material is so thick compared to most other skis.

could be wrong but i believe these were the new bases not the 4001. Those are 2019/20s right?

 

[whatsamonad]

Damn dog. That's wild. Though, I will say I was on some ON3Ps for 3 seasons, and they're supposed to have pretty tough edges, and I broke those multiple times over the course of their use. I feel like stuff like that, and this with the bases, just comes down to and wear and tear (plus skiing a lot of days in a season). But yeah, the Durasuft 4001 was the toughest stuff you could get for years. Hopefully this 7500 carbon series is better.

I'd buy those off you depending the price of course (if your willing to sell). Just PM me if your interested.

I'd say though, you could base weld those, and give it a base grind if your base high, & check with a true bar to see that your all set again. If you did that you'd be fine for another season if the repair work is done correctly. What's great about those Moments is that if you need to base grind you can do quite a few passes on the machine bc the base material is so thick compared to most other skis.

So are these new 7500's also made by CDW who made the Durasurf 4001s?

 

[Fenk]

Hit an absolute fatty rock and the new base seems to have held up alright, didn’t rip through

 

[hot.pocket]

I guess. This is 2 seasons use. I've stopped putting money into them because they seem to be incurably base high. I've had similar issues with my old pbj's too.

Sorry to see this happen. If you happen to be local to Tahoe / Reno I'll happily repair everything for you.

could be wrong but i believe these were the new bases not the 4001. Those are 2019/20s right?

Old 4001 base on that model.

So are these new 7500's also made by CDW who made the Durasurf 4001s?

We now source our base from IsoSport in Europe. It's the same place we source our topsheet and sidewall from as well.

 

[BrandoComando]

I know you guys have been busy with the move to the new factory. But is there any ETA on the next batch of 162cm Sierras?

 

[hot.pocket]

I know you guys have been busy with the move to the new factory. But is there any ETA on the next batch of 162cm Sierras?

All moved in! Sierra 162's should be available for preorder in 2-3 weeks with an estimated ship date of mid / late March.

 

[FUUUCK]

How did you get a hold of these!?

Just mounted up a pair of new-old stock (2012ish?) Reno Rockers. Holy hell. What a FUN ski.

 

[BrandoComando]

All moved in! Sierra 162's should be available for preorder in 2-3 weeks with an estimated ship date of mid / late March.

Right on! Appreciate it!

 

[maaattt]

All moved in! Sierra 162's should be available for preorder in 2-3 weeks with an estimated ship date of mid / late March.

Where is the new spot at?

 

[hot.pocket]

Where is the new spot at?

1085 Bible Way, Reno.

 

[profa_212]

1085 Bible Way, Reno.

Right next to FBD? Shiiiiiiii

 

[hot.pocket]

Right next to FBD? Shiiiiiiii

Soooooo many Dirka Dirkas

 

[BrandoComando]

Right next to FBD? Shiiiiiiii

Definitely intentional. They wanted to move closer to the best lunch spot in town

 

[hot.pocket]

Definitely intentional. They wanted to move closer to the best lunch spot in town

Albita's is starting to compete heavily with FBD for the crew's #1 lunch spot.

 

[closeyetfar11]

How did you get a hold of these!?

Got them off a rando who wasn't a fan of the shape a few years ago, and have just been sitting on them since then. I figured it was time!

 

[Ih8pumpkin]

All moved in! Sierra 162's should be available for preorder in 2-3 weeks with an estimated ship date of mid / late March.

Any word on when the next run of Commander 108s may be?

 

[hot.pocket]

Any word on when the next run of Commander 108s may be?

Commander 108 is done for the season, we're still producing a small run of both the shorter lengths of the 98 offering.

More 108's will be available August 2022 with the new graphic, no construction changes planned.

 

[iRide1080s]

1085 Bible Way, Reno.

Is there a factory store at the new location?

 

[olic]

Finally got to ride my Wildcat 101's after a year in storage since buying them (thanks Covid, you dick!) What an awesome ski, had a total blast riding shallow powder and soft groomers on them, held an edge really well on piste and bounced through chopped up lines easily, great swing weight as well, perfect mix of jibbiness and backbone, really stoked on the ski.

[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] I know it's unlikely but if you ever decided to make a 90mm version for low snow days spent mostly on groomers I would be all over that ski like a rash!

 

[Rodigan]

Finally got to ride my Wildcat 101's after a year in storage since buying them (thanks Covid, you dick!) What an awesome ski, had a total blast riding shallow powder and soft groomers on them, held an edge really well on piste and bounced through chopped up lines easily, great swing weight as well, perfect mix of jibbiness and backbone, really stoked on the ski.

[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] I know it's unlikely but if you ever decided to make a 90mm version for low snow days spent mostly on groomers I would be all over that ski like a rash!

if the 101 is anything like the last PBJ which i think it is then it absolutely destroys groomers so spend that money on a 116.

 

[olic]

if the 101 is anything like the last PBJ which i think it is then it absolutely destroys groomers so spend that money on a 116.

They're solid on groomers for sure, I just prefer something a little narrower and faster edge to edge for proper piste days with no new snow (but don't want to get a full on frontside ski), got some ON3P Kartel 116's for deep days so that angle is covered.

 

[hot.pocket]

Is there a factory store at the new location?

Yes.

[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] I know it's unlikely but if you ever decided to make a 90mm version for low snow days spent mostly on groomers I would be all over that ski like a rash!

Not too likely, but you never know!

 

[Non_State_Actor]

Finally got to ride my Wildcat 101's after a year in storage since buying them (thanks Covid, you dick!)

[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] I know it's unlikely but if you ever decided to make a 90mm version for low snow days spent mostly on groomers I would be all over that ski like a rash!

Just try to grade a pair of ski blades for the low tide days and thank me later. No need for a narrower Wildcat.

 

[anders_a]

I've been waiting on moment blades to come back in stock again.. but noooot easy to score!

 

[iRide1080s]

Yes.

Not too likely, but you never know!

Glad to hear. Thanks!

 

[Rodigan]

Does anyone own this seasons commander 108s ? If so can you tell me about them please, how they ski , where you would use them etc

thanks ?

 

[highpeak]

Does anyone own this seasons commander 108s ? If so can you tell me about them please, how they ski , where you would use them etc

thanks ?

the blister buyers guide should have some good info

 

[vermontana]

Does anyone own this seasons commander 108s ? If so can you tell me about them please, how they ski , where you would use them etc

thanks ?

Yeah I got a pair this year - they're pretty incredible high-performance sticks, definitely take a bit out of ya by the end of the day but make you feel invincible in most conditions. I live in Vermont and got them for western travel and pow days but they've actually become my daily driver when I'm not skiing park. Surprisingly manageable in moguls and tight trees too. PM me if ya got questions

 

[VONNN]

Can anyone share their experience on the new Commander 98? Looks pretty awesome.

I'm looking for a low-tide ski where my priority is performance in ungroomed, variable, off-trail snow.

I'm not overly concerned with groomer performance.

Other skis in this general width that I've owned and loved:

2017 Bonafide in 187 - prob the best 100-mm ski I've ever owned

2021 Mantra 102 in 191 - great ski, but too heavy, not enough rocker, and way too much swing-weight to be fun in tight, bumped out places.

Skiing low-tide Alta/Snowbird the last month has got me looking for that ski that makes skiing bumps and variable more fun. Ideally keeping as much of the dampness and stability of Bonafide and M102 that I've loved, but with a primary goal of increasing pivotability and maneuverability in crappy conditions.

 

[hot.pocket]

Can anyone share their experience on the new Commander 98? Looks pretty awesome.

I'm looking for a low-tide ski where my priority is performance in ungroomed, variable, off-trail snow.

I'm not overly concerned with groomer performance.

Other skis in this general width that I've owned and loved:

2017 Bonafide in 187 - prob the best 100-mm ski I've ever owned

2021 Mantra 102 in 191 - great ski, but too heavy, not enough rocker, and way too much swing-weight to be fun in tight, bumped out places.

Skiing low-tide Alta/Snowbird the last month has got me looking for that ski that makes skiing bumps and variable more fun. Ideally keeping as much of the dampness and stability of Bonafide and M102 that I've loved, but with a primary goal of increasing pivotability and maneuverability in crappy conditions.

Independent review for you:https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/341006-Review-Moment-Commander-98-2020-2021

 

[VONNN]

I was hoping to find a bit more independent of a review

 

[profa_212]

I was hoping to find a bit more independent of a review

It's blister they are completely independent and largely regarded as the best/least biased review source

 

[SavageBiff]

I have the new c98

compred to a bonafide it’s easier to release, def more fun of a ski and it’s still super stable, it floats well for me in 6”, and can blow thru chop w/o getting knocked around as well as a bonafide or mantra, it’ll still punish a weak skier tho.

That said I’m selling mine with steel pivot 15s almost unused if interested, haven’t gotten around to posting them yet.

Can anyone share their experience on the new Commander 98? Looks pretty awesome.

I'm looking for a low-tide ski where my priority is performance in ungroomed, variable, off-trail snow.

I'm not overly concerned with groomer performance.

Other skis in this general width that I've owned and loved:

2017 Bonafide in 187 - prob the best 100-mm ski I've ever owned

2021 Mantra 102 in 191 - great ski, but too heavy, not enough rocker, and way too much swing-weight to be fun in tight, bumped out places.

Skiing low-tide Alta/Snowbird the last month has got me looking for that ski that makes skiing bumps and variable more fun. Ideally keeping as much of the dampness and stability of Bonafide and M102 that I've loved, but with a primary goal of increasing pivotability and maneuverability in crappy conditions.

 

[ThaLorax]

2013 vs 2022

 

[quagsire]

2013 vs 2022

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Those PBJs with the mismatched Attacks are fucking gorgeous.

 

[maaattt]

Back on moments with a real og

 

[ThaLorax]

Thanks. Those PB&Js are very much retired now. Several hundred great days on them though. Those mismatched bindings are now on my Black Crow Atris skis.

Those PBJs with the mismatched Attacks are fucking gorgeous.

 

[myguy]

So Ill give my update / impressions.

I went into the season with a quiver of Fischer Gunbarrel 65's (177cm), Moment Commander 98's (188cm), Moment Wildcat 108's (190cm), and Atomic Bentchetler 120's (193cm). Everyone gets a look Pivot with a metal toe.

I managed about 65 days spread across Mammoth, Taos, Steamboat, Alta, Snowbird, Brighton, Deer Valley, Jackson Hole, Silver, Schweitzer, and Bachelor - all sorts of conditions.

6'3" 200lb level three cabbage with collarbones intact.

Moment Wildcat 108's.

On my feet 70% of the time. Didn't matter that I spent a good chunk of Feb in drought in that Steamboat / SLC / Jackson storm track (super firm) - the ski is just good at almost everything. It just has a great tweener nature. Its stiff and stable enough to charge pretty well, but the easy tail release makes it ski super short. Once I figured out my lines (remember - am cabbage) I had no issues bombing through variable (mostly firm) moguled trees at Steamboat in the closets area, or at Taos in the Wild West glade (not firm - super soft - it's a goddamn rainforest in there), and the attributes that make the ski work well in trees translates to narrow, technical steeps, moguls, or just scrubbing speed on a runout. It's an incredibly fun and versatile ski. Perhaps my favorite thing about it is that its punch in chop. On those 6" days when the mountain gets cutup a few hours in, you will have no speed limit. These things crush chop.

Moment Commander 98's

Very stable with great tail hold - but they will buck the shit out of you on ungroomed firm. I mostly ski Mammoth, and it can go variable from a nice wind buff you can edge, to refrozen corn ice sheet as you hit different spots, and these skis will punish the hell out you on the latter if you misread.

At first I wasn't super keen on them, but then a few days after a Presidents day dump at JHMR, on the first warm day after, I pretty quickly learned that these things are corn killers. When it warms up a bit, and some of the junk softens, these things can be demons. As long as they can cut through they'll let you go fast and be stable. I like them - they are just picky about their snow conditions unless just ripping groomers is your jam - in which case send it off some rolls these things are great at that. Fantastic spring ski.

Super stoked with both Moment skis. Wildcat 108s are definitely going to have a place in my bag forever. Best skiing I had this year was charging on those at Brighton (not super steep, why its so fun to charge) on a dad pow weekday. They gave me everything and more. Happy on the Comm 98's when conditions both require and encouraged. They are a tasty snack conditions provided.

Keep crushing it. Ill buy more at some point.

**This post was edited on Mar 27th 2022 at 2:29:19am

 

[smellyfartsmelly]

Anyone tele on moments? Looking for a new tele ski and they look fun. Also hear that the triple camber is great

 

[Fenk]

I tele on some DW 104s mounted outlaw x and Meridians mounted with freerides that both absolutely rip. DW 104s are fun, more versatile, nimble, but I prefer the plankiness and big radius of the Meridians. Size up if you go DW 104, I have 184 but should have gone 190. Triple camber is nice on ice but i’m addicted to chargy skis cause of the meridians, the deathwishes aren’t soft but they just aren’t as aggressive.

Fasa at the moment factory tele skis and could walk through what option would work best for you

Anyone tele on moments? Looking for a new tele ski and they look fun. Also hear that the triple camber is great

 

[smellyfartsmelly]

I tele on some DW 104s mounted outlaw x and Meridians mounted with freerides that both absolutely rip. DW 104s are fun, more versatile, nimble, but I prefer the plankiness and big radius of the Meridians. Size up if you go DW 104, I have 184 but should have gone 190. Triple camber is nice on ice but i’m addicted to chargy skis cause of the meridians, the deathwishes aren’t soft but they just aren’t as aggressive.

Fasa at the moment factory tele skis and could walk through what option would work best for you

Sick man, thanks for the reply. Out of curiosity, where do you ski? I’m on hardpack more often than not, and wondering if 104 is too big

 

[Rodigan]

anyone got a Meridian they would be willing to sell ?

thanks

 

[Dlonetti]

Looking for some advice, thinking my all mountain ski next year is gonna be the 184 Wildcat 101. Any benefit to waiting for next seasons line to drop, or should I snag a pair now? Will there be a big price difference, or any changes to the ski besides top sheet? Still a little hung up on the decision between 101 and 108 as well, I ski mainly trees and not a ton of deep powder but not sure if I should go to the bigger width

 

[olic]

Looking for some advice, thinking my all mountain ski next year is gonna be the 184 Wildcat 101. Any benefit to waiting for next seasons line to drop, or should I snag a pair now? Will there be a big price difference, or any changes to the ski besides top sheet? Still a little hung up on the decision between 101 and 108 as well, I ski mainly trees and not a ton of deep powder but not sure if I should go to the bigger width

If you're not spending a lot of time in deep snow the 101's are a great all mountain ski, the hardpack performance is really good, they hold an edge really well and are still a load of fun. Pretty quick edge to edge once you get a bit of speed behind you, so in trees I'd rather have the 101 than the 108

I have a 95mm ski for really low tide days with no chance of any soft stuff but will take the 101's out on any days with softer snow, I reckon they'll hold up in anything up to 18 inches of powder, took mine out for a day of boot top powder and they were the perfect ski for the job. They're a really fun and confidence inspiring ski.

If I didn't have Kartel 116's for the deeper days and places like Japan I'd grab a pair of full fat Wildcat's without hesitation.

 

[Dlonetti]

If you're not spending a lot of time in deep snow the 101's are a great all mountain ski, the hardpack performance is really good, they hold an edge really well and are still a load of fun. Pretty quick edge to edge once you get a bit of speed behind you, so in trees I'd rather have the 101 than the 108

I have a 95mm ski for really low tide days with no chance of any soft stuff but will take the 101's out on any days with softer snow, I reckon they'll hold up in anything up to 18 inches of powder, took mine out for a day of boot top powder and they were the perfect ski for the job. They're a really fun and confidence inspiring ski.

If I didn't have Kartel 116's for the deeper days and places like Japan I'd grab a pair of full fat Wildcat's without hesitation.

Thanks for the advice. Glad it sounds like the 101 will serve me well for what I'm doing, super stoked to get my hands on them

 

[buck_nasty]

Looking for some advice, thinking my all mountain ski next year is gonna be the 184 Wildcat 101. Any benefit to waiting for next seasons line to drop, or should I snag a pair now? Will there be a big price difference, or any changes to the ski besides top sheet? Still a little hung up on the decision between 101 and 108 as well, I ski mainly trees and not a ton of deep powder but not sure if I should go to the bigger width

Yeah man the 101s are perfect for what you’re wanting. Late summer Moment does a sale on last season’s skis at skiburger.com so I’d say wait for that.

 

[Dlonetti]

Yeah man the 101s are perfect for what you’re wanting. Late summer Moment does a sale on last season’s skis at skiburger.com so I’d say wait for that.

Oh smart thanks for the tip I put my email in to get notified for that

 

[hot.pocket]

anyone got a Meridian they would be willing to sell ?

thanks

What length are you interested in?

Yeah man the 101s are perfect for what you’re wanting. Late summer Moment does a sale on last season’s skis at skiburger.com so I’d say wait for that.

Oh smart thanks for the tip I put my email in to get notified for that

https://www.momentskis.com/collecti..._campaign=21/22 - Blem Ski Sale (V8qDAs)&_kx=

 

[Dlonetti]

What length are you interested in?
https://www.momentskis.com/collecti..._campaign=21/22 - Blem Ski Sale (V8qDAs)&_kx=

Ah thanks for this, I had checked it out before but no 101s