Moment Skis Discussion Thread

14430732:mystery3 said:
108s tho?
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Yeah I was tempted by it, but theyre a bit too wide for what I'm looking for. Want something light and agile for tree skiing with the true soul of a park ski. I dont ski a ton of powder really either
 
14431121:Rodigan said:
I live in the UK and just managed to source a pair from Australia. What length you got available though as I may swoop on another pair. Thanks
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I think I have some 187's but I'll have to dub check.
 
So Max hooked it up finding a pair of DWT mid-winter and I haven't really been back in here much since! But the Moment dudes were so rad and here's a little update on the sticks.

I've now ridden them in a whole bunch of conditions and what I thought would become my longer-tour-days ski is now my any-tour-at-all ski. They're so light and so fun and I already feel like I can trust them anywhere.

Uphill:

Total dream. Coming from Kartel 108s with CAST I shaved almost 1kg per ski so no surprise there. The Voyager's climbing bails are the easiest I've used so that's another plus. Had a couple longer tours with dudes way more in shape than me and these skis saved my ass a couple times (and left me with enough gas to enjoy the down).

Groomers:

A slackcountry day that was cut short ended with me riding DWTs and Voyagers all over Blackcomb a week after the last snowfall, so I got a good sense of how these feel on edge on hard, even snow. Maybe it's the decade and a half of being on park skis but I've literally never felt edges grip so hard and rail carves like this. Like a damn rollercoaster - point it and lean in and the ski just takes you where you wanna go. Not once have I had the thought "I'm on a touring ski with a pin binding".

Wondering if a regular DW might find its way into the quiver...

Chop/hardpack chalk:

Probably would be asking a lot of a touring ski/pin binding setup to excel here, and I was definitely yearning for my Kartel 108s with metal pivots on a particularly chalky bumpy run, but they were stable and predictable even if they did get knocked around a bit. Held up great through a couple spicy entrances and that's about all I could ever ask for.

Trees:

Absolutely in love with them here. Both in fresh and in tracked. So light n snappy but wide and floaty, that you can play around in carve mode or slash mode (the second you get on this ski these two distinct modes are apparent) and make quick adjustments between whenever you want. Solid enough to inspire confidence through the under-canopy garbage snow typical of lower elevation trees on the way back to the trailhead.

Spring chutes:

The light weight and the shorter length I went with, paired with the insane edge hold make for a confidence-inspiring tool to make it down steep/narrow lines even when they're a little more solid than you'd like.

Open pow:

Floats great, not surprising at 112mm. Was nervous about float and stability sizing down to the 184, but have honestly never felt they're too short even where it's wide open. I'm 6'0 180ish for reference.

Slush and corn:

Same as pow honestly, except more opportunity to play with the dual personality of railing edges and slashy turns. Real fun and them being so light makes them fun to snap out.

Aesthetics:

Just gotta put that out there. This is probably the most beautiful ski I've owned. The marbly cloudy graphic, nice typography and colours down to the the craggy stuff on the tails - they look so rad.

Next condition I'm pumped to try: hiking for 3 hours in the summer to hit the lil snow patch and having 2kg less on my back than I did last year.

So yeah. Real pumped about these and I really don't tour on anything else any more. Thanks to this thread and Max and Cy and all the Moment folks.
 
14436566:Kevski said:
So yeah. Real pumped about these and I really don't tour on anything else any more. Thanks to this thread and Max and Cy and all the Moment folks.
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Glad you're enjoying them!
 
14444063:yhprum1720 said:
Is there any chance we'll ever see a low 90s underfoot Deathwish for those of us in the East?
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Probably wouldn't expect one in the next few years, but you never know.
 
Put me first on the list to buy it if you ever do one.

From my perspective, there's a gap in the market for narrow twinned freeride-esque skis.

If I want something with a little more oomph than a park ski, I'm pretty much stuck with a flat tail or stepping up to something over 100mm underfoot, which is unnecessarily wide for most days in New England. Not necessarily Moment's problem, but it would be cool to see more options in this space

14444071:hot.pocket said:
Probably wouldn't expect one in the next few years, but you never know.
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14444085:yhprum1720 said:
Put me first on the list to buy it if you ever do one.

From my perspective, there's a gap in the market for narrow twinned freeride-esque skis.

If I want something with a little more oomph than a park ski, I'm pretty much stuck with a flat tail or stepping up to something over 100mm underfoot, which is unnecessarily wide for most days in New England. Not necessarily Moment's problem, but it would be cool to see more options in this space
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Bringing up some solid points here, who knows, maybe the DW line does need some expanding in the future.
 
14444086:hot.pocket said:
Bringing up some solid points here, who knows, maybe the DW line does need some expanding in the future.
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If you sold the Strega here my wife would ride a pair. She's not interested in full twins or anything over ~95mm waist.
 
14444087:mystery3 said:
If you sold the Strega here my wife would ride a pair. She's not interested in full twins or anything over ~95mm waist.
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Also good to know! Never hurts to send these to info@momentskis.com so our sales team sees the desire for such skis as well.
 
14444105:hot.pocket said:
Also good to know! Never hurts to send these to info@momentskis.com so our sales team sees the desire for such skis as well.
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Do you really want us bombarding that address with our thoughts on the type of skis you should make?

Also aside from the Strega do you make very many skis for markets outside North America? Not pairs of skis sold in different markets but rather ski models not sold in North America?
 
14444209:mystery3 said:
Do you really want us bombarding that address with our thoughts on the type of skis you should make?

Also aside from the Strega do you make very many skis for markets outside North America? Not pairs of skis sold in different markets but rather ski models not sold in North America?
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As long as it's not ridiculous park ski ideas, yes, it's helpful to get emails regarding the types of skis people want. Whenever we discuss the lineup and possible changes, our sales team can chime in with "we've gotten a lot of requests for this general type of ski" and it helps put some data behind the assumptions.

We haven't produced the Strega in a few seasons, but you're right, it was a Japan exclusive model. There was also a Japan exclusive Belafonte topsheet quite a few years ago, I'll toss a pic at the bottom. Other than those two, I can't think of any other models we produce at scale that are not available to the North American market.

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14444269:hot.pocket said:
As long as it's not ridiculous park ski ideas, yes, it's helpful to get emails regarding the types of skis people want. Whenever we discuss the lineup and possible changes, our sales team can chime in with "we've gotten a lot of requests for this general type of ski" and it helps put some data behind the assumptions.

We haven't produced the Strega in a few seasons, but you're right, it was a Japan exclusive model. There was also a Japan exclusive Belafonte topsheet quite a few years ago, I'll toss a pic at the bottom. Other than those two, I can't think of any other models we produce at scale that are not available to the North American market.

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Would the Reno Rocker be a ridiculous park ski idea

This also counts as my yearly post of asking for a Reno rocker
 
14444209:mystery3 said:
Do you really want us bombarding that address with our thoughts on the type of skis you should make?

Also aside from the Strega do you make very many skis for markets outside North America? Not pairs of skis sold in different markets but rather ski models not sold in North America?
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I (and am sure others as well) emailed them suggesting a 95-100mm touring ski and to make it in a 160-165cm length, so it can be small enough for short men and most women (most of their touring skis are too long for me, since I size down for touring to save weight and gain maneuverability), and they came out with the Sierra Tour. If I didn't have my perfectly fine Faction Agent 2.0's already, I'd have bought a pair this season.... SO PLEASE DON'T DISCONTINUE IT
 
14444269:hot.pocket said:
As long as it's not ridiculous park ski ideas, yes, it's helpful to get emails regarding the types of skis people want. Whenever we discuss the lineup and possible changes, our sales team can chime in with "we've gotten a lot of requests for this general type of ski" and it helps put some data behind the assumptions.

We haven't produced the Strega in a few seasons, but you're right, it was a Japan exclusive model. There was also a Japan exclusive Belafonte topsheet quite a few years ago, I'll toss a pic at the bottom. Other than those two, I can't think of any other models we produce at scale that are not available to the North American market.

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Out of curiosity, why were you producing Japanese market exclusive skis? Is there some huge gap between what the American and Japanese consumer are buying?
 
14444360:maaattt said:
Would the Reno Rocker be a ridiculous park ski idea

This also counts as my yearly post of asking for a Reno rocker
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14444541:Profahoben_212 said:
My yearly I second this post
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Oh boy do I miss that ski.

14444681:ThaLorax said:
I (and am sure others as well) emailed them suggesting a 95-100mm touring ski and to make it in a 160-165cm length, so it can be small enough for short men and most women (most of their touring skis are too long for me, since I size down for touring to save weight and gain maneuverability), and they came out with the Sierra Tour. If I didn't have my perfectly fine Faction Agent 2.0's already, I'd have bought a pair this season.... SO PLEASE DON'T DISCONTINUE IT
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Sierra Tour will return next season unchanged other than the graphic.

14444787:-eREKTion- said:
Out of curiosity, why were you producing Japanese market exclusive skis? Is there some huge gap between what the American and Japanese consumer are buying?
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IIRC, the special Belafonte graphic was due to retailers at SIA thinking it was too scary, so we came up with a new one prior to production. Our Japanese distributor thought it was sick so we produced some specifically for his market.

The Strega was specifically requested by our Japanese distributor, who wanted a very short, quick turning ski for the market, as most of their groomed trails are short and sweet (more turns = the run feels longer).

It's fairly rare that we produce something for a specific market though, most things we produce are available to everyone.
 
14444269:hot.pocket said:
As long as it's not ridiculous park ski ideas, yes, it's helpful to get emails regarding the types of skis people want
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i feel like you're not taking my magnet skis idea seriously enough, do you have a manager i can speak to
 
14445017:SofaKingSick said:
i feel like you're not taking my magnet skis idea seriously enough, do you have a manager i can speak to
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Remind me again what this idea is and I'll direct you to the proper manager.
 
14444269:hot.pocket said:
As long as it's not ridiculous park ski ideas, yes, it's helpful to get emails regarding the types of skis people want. Whenever we discuss the lineup and possible changes, our sales team can chime in with "we've gotten a lot of requests for this general type of ski" and it helps put some data behind the assumptions.

We haven't produced the Strega in a few seasons, but you're right, it was a Japan exclusive model. There was also a Japan exclusive Belafonte topsheet quite a few years ago, I'll toss a pic at the bottom. Other than those two, I can't think of any other models we produce at scale that are not available to the North American market.

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Seriously, i wake up this morning to see this. What are you doing to me ? Why would you do this ?

Either make me a pair of meridians with this exact graphic or put me in contact with your CEO pronto

Jonny Meridian

412 Make me another pair street

Manchester

UK
 
14445338:Rodigan said:
Seriously, i wake up this morning to see this. What are you doing to me ? Why would you do this ?

Either make me a pair of meridians with this exact graphic or put me in contact with your CEO pronto

Jonny Meridian

412 Make me another pair street

Manchester

UK
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I will eventually bring the Meridian back if it's the last god damn thing I do in this world.
 
14446463:hot.pocket said:
I will eventually bring the Meridian back if it's the last god damn thing I do in this world.
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Anytime around Nov/Dec would be great. Thanks for your help

much love
 
I see the skiburger site is active with blems and old models, is there any more to be added or is this all? I was hoping for some regular Wildcat 108s or longer deathwishes
 
14451539:Dlonetti said:
I see the skiburger site is active with blems and old models, is there any more to be added or is this all? I was hoping for some regular Wildcat 108s or longer deathwishes
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There's a small chance additional skis will make it on there before the season, but fairly limited. I doubt either of those skis listed will show up anytime soon on the Burg.
 
14453620:BrandoComando said:
New Deathwish 104 graphics take the cake for me. Super sick.

Any construction changes or just topsheet refreshes? Got any new skis in the works?
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Just topsheet refreshes this year. We've always got something in the works, just depends on if it's ready for this season.
 
14453674:Olimar said:
Loving the lineup and graphics but.. did you guys recycle the frankenski graphic?
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This was the 21/22 Frank graphic:

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Cody LaPlante has been on the new graphic for a while now, so that's might be what you're seeing.
 
14453675:hot.pocket said:
This was the 21/22 Frank graphic:

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Cody LaPlante has been on the new graphic for a while now, so that's might be what you're seeing.
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Oh wow. Yeah I guess I was a bit off.
 
14453675:hot.pocket said:
This was the 21/22 Frank graphic:

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Cody LaPlante has been on the new graphic for a while now, so that's might be what you're seeing.
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New graphic is hot, the red base should have been same color as topsheet or something else though..
 
14454503:Ghini said:
New graphics are great! I might need to add a Wildcat Tour 108 190 to my quiver..
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That's what I'll be rocking all winter. Can't fuckin wait.

**This post was edited on Aug 10th 2022 at 10:45:32am
 
Well its too hot out and dreaming of pow days, its time to replace my beat pow touring sticks and add some Deathwish Tours to the quiver, stuck between 184 and 190. Other sticks are from 183 park skis to 188 commander 108s.

I have 185 blizzard zerog 95s as my big day/spring touring sticks, so was leaning towards 190 DWTs for meadow skipping floatability when avy conditions are sketch. I've heard they ski a bit short too w the deep rocker lines. [tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] or anyone else have opinions?
 
14454617:vermontana said:
Well its too hot out and dreaming of pow days, its time to replace my beat pow touring sticks and add some Deathwish Tours to the quiver, stuck between 184 and 190. Other sticks are from 183 park skis to 188 commander 108s.

I have 185 blizzard zerog 95s as my big day/spring touring sticks, so was leaning towards 190 DWTs for meadow skipping floatability when avy conditions are sketch. I've heard they ski a bit short too w the deep rocker lines. [tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] or anyone else have opinions?
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I ski the 190 DWTs. For the downhill, the 190s are great. They ski shorter than a directional ski like the Blizzard Zero G and based on your skis, you'll be happy with the longer length.

In my own experience, I kinda wish I went with the 184s for a tad more maneuverability in the backcountry and easier kick turns. I was on the fence too. Now that I own them, I realize I prefer to ski smaller in the backcountry. I ski slower and take a few more turns than I would in the resort.
 
14454617:vermontana said:
Deathwish Tours to the quiver, stuck between 184 and 190. Other sticks are from 183 park skis to 188 commander 108s.
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My references:

6'2"

150lbs

DW190 at the resort

If you can ski the 108 CMD 188 confidently in the resort I would opt for the DWT 190. I can easily toss the stock DW 190 around in tight spaces at the resort while the 108 CMD 188 kicks my butt halfway through the day, so if you've got no problem with the 108 CMD 188 the DWT 190 will be easy enough to ski for you. For extra float, especially considering the slimmer option [Zero G's] you have for low tide / big days, the 190 will be the better choice.

If maneuverability is your highest priority, I would double what [tag=276406]@BrandoComando[/tag] said in regards to the 184. I would still be happy skiing the DWT 184 at my build, and have on occasion, especially when I was skiing nothing but tight trees. Otherwise I'm a fan of the 190's combination of stability, float, confidence and maneuverability for my skiing.
 
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