Moment Skis Discussion Thread

Annual gushy post. I bought 2014 Ghost Trains off Facebook three years ago, and they continue to make me laugh every time I take them out. The Deathwish and Deathwish Tour make me really happy 99% of the time, but for those stupid deep days, I've never found anything as fun and silly as Ghost Trains. They're so fat, so nimble, and they just feel so intuitive. I love these damn skis so much, and hope they make it back in a limited release so more folks get to try them!
 
14485895:cydwhit said:
Annual gushy post. I bought 2014 Ghost Trains off Facebook three years ago, and they continue to make me laugh every time I take them out. The Deathwish and Deathwish Tour make me really happy 99% of the time, but for those stupid deep days, I've never found anything as fun and silly as Ghost Trains. They're so fat, so nimble, and they just feel so intuitive. I love these damn skis so much, and hope they make it back in a limited release so more folks get to try them!
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Sounds like it's a better version of the Exit World (or I guess it's more like the Exit World was a worse version of the Ghost Train), which was great when it was perfectly matched to its conditions but a bit too light and squirrely for its own good most of the time. I love my Chipotle Bananas, and I'll have to keep an eye open if a random pair of Ghost Trains pop up for sale anywhere.
 
14485906:Burrito said:
Sounds like it's a better version of the Exit World (or I guess it's more like the Exit World was a worse version of the Ghost Train), which was great when it was perfectly matched to its conditions but a bit too light and squirrely for its own good most of the time. I love my Chipotle Bananas, and I'll have to keep an eye open if a random pair of Ghost Trains pop up for sale anywhere.
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Exit World was a touring version Ghost Train for a few seasons, a touch slimmer and lighter, so stands to reason they would be a bit too light for hard charging.
 
Ha! The Exit World is the #1 ski I’ve never been on and really want to try. I only tour on my Ghost Trains, so honestly the Exit World probably makes more sense…

14485906:Burrito said:
Sounds like it's a better version of the Exit World (or I guess it's more like the Exit World was a worse version of the Ghost Train), which was great when it was perfectly matched to its conditions but a bit too light and squirrely for its own good most of the time. I love my Chipotle Bananas, and I'll have to keep an eye open if a random pair of Ghost Trains pop up for sale anywhere.
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14485919:cydwhit said:
Ha! The Exit World is the #1 ski I’ve never been on and really want to try. I only tour on my Ghost Trains, so honestly the Exit World probably makes more sense…
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The Exit Worlds were insanely fun on soft/deep days but really, really suffered in the variable conditions I found most of the time touring in the Sierras. Would have loved to have kept them, but I wasn't touring in fresh snow often enough to justify their existence. In Moment's defense they were perfectly up from about what the Exit Worlds were, and weren't, built for. I had hoped my being on the lighter side (165lbs) would make up for the ski's lack of "charginess," but it just wasn't meant to be.
 
I'm a long time moment fanatic but my girlfriend is looking to demo some. Would there be any opportunities to make that happen here in Salt Lake?
 
14485895:cydwhit said:
Annual gushy post. I bought 2014 Ghost Trains off Facebook three years ago, and they continue to make me laugh every time I take them out. The Deathwish and Deathwish Tour make me really happy 99% of the time, but for those stupid deep days, I've never found anything as fun and silly as Ghost Trains. They're so fat, so nimble, and they just feel so intuitive. I love these damn skis so much, and hope they make it back in a limited release so more folks get to try them!
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I got the 2013 Ghost Trains off Ski Burger and liked them so much that I also got the last pair, since they're "discontinued". I absolutely hate them on groomers, but they're not made for that! They're the most fun ski in slushy snow, and especially in powder. They only see a few days a year because CO rarely grants that deep of pow skiing, so I'm sure I'll still have the unmounted pair 10 years from now haha
 
14486607:Liam_j10 said:
I'm a long time moment fanatic but my girlfriend is looking to demo some. Would there be any opportunities to make that happen here in Salt Lake?
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Email kaelin@momentskis.com as he's our SLC rep. We're currently getting his fleet set up but you're more than welcome to reach out at any time.
 
14487012:hot.pocket said:
Email kaelin@momentskis.com as he's our SLC rep. We're currently getting his fleet set up but you're more than welcome to reach out at any time.
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Is there a rep for Vancouver/Whistler area?
 
14485906:Burrito said:
Sounds like it's a better version of the Exit World (or I guess it's more like the Exit World was a worse version of the Ghost Train), which was great when it was perfectly matched to its conditions but a bit too light and squirrely for its own good most of the time. I love my Chipotle Bananas, and I'll have to keep an eye open if a random pair of Ghost Trains pop up for sale anywhere.
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Think I might've seen you ripping the CBs this weekend at mammoth and parked my whitewalkers next to your skis at the bottom of The Mill yesterday haha. Really pushing me to buy a pair for sure

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Alright Moment fans, I need to replace my beat park skis that I've realized are a bit short after breaking in over a few seasons (Prodigy 2 184s) My daily driver for the past couple years have been Commander 108 188s Debating between Wildcat 101 and DW 104 for lower tide playful/park spot in my quiver (both would be 190s).

Leaning Wildcat over DW just to have some more differentiation with the C108 as I heard the DW104 is a bit chargier and heavier, the edge hold on the DW for ripping groomers intrigues me though (have some experience with triple camber on the DW tour).

anyone have thoughts on this? Would probably be happy on both but always fun to nerd out and get opinions
 
Alright Moment fans, I need to replace my beat park skis that I've realized are a bit short after breaking in over a few seasons (Prodigy 2 184s) My daily driver for the past couple years have been Commander 108 188s Debating between Wildcat 101 and DW 104 for lower tide playful/park spot in my quiver (both would be 190s).

Leaning Wildcat over DW just to have some more differentiation with the C108 as I heard the DW104 is a bit chargier and heavier, the edge hold on the DW for ripping groomers intrigues me though (have some experience with triple camber on the DW tour).

anyone have thoughts on this? Would probably be happy on both but always fun to nerd out and get opinions
 
i still haven’t ridden my new to me bibbys. Have been waiting on a deeper day and this weekend looks prime for it.
 
14499585:vermontana said:
Alright Moment fans, I need to replace my beat park skis that I've realized are a bit short after breaking in over a few seasons (Prodigy 2 184s) My daily driver for the past couple years have been Commander 108 188s Debating between Wildcat 101 and DW 104 for lower tide playful/park spot in my quiver (both would be 190s).

Leaning Wildcat over DW just to have some more differentiation with the C108 as I heard the DW104 is a bit chargier and heavier, the edge hold on the DW for ripping groomers intrigues me though (have some experience with triple camber on the DW tour).

anyone have thoughts on this? Would probably be happy on both but always fun to nerd out and get opinions
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Wildcat 101 is waaay more apt to park skiing than the Deathwish 104. If you're planning on spending any amount of time lapping the park, I'd go WC.

14500159:Mr_pretzel said:
Whats the shizzy on that 196 wildcat? We getting one this season?
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Shipping 02/10/23:https://www.momentskis.com/collections/22-23/products/wildcat
 
[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] just my usual semi-regular request for a 92mm underfoot Wildcat, seeing as us Euro's have got barely any snow, thought it could be the time to ask... still taking my WC101 in 2 weeks though
 
Seconding this but for the Deathwish

14500620:olic said:
[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] just my usual semi-regular request for a 92mm underfoot Wildcat, seeing as us Euro's have got barely any snow, thought it could be the time to ask... still taking my WC101 in 2 weeks though
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Took the bibbys out for the first time, killer ski.

powder was nothing and was real fun on the chopped up stuff. Definitely recommend it for a deep day ski
 
I always see people talking about the big mountain skis in this thread but never the park ski. So I am here to give the Frankenski some love. I picked up a used pair on a screamin deal from [tag=277941]@Redeem[/tag] last summer and have been riding them in the park for the past couple weeks. So light for a ski measuring 182, and so much energy in the ski that you can feel. I am a triple camber believer now, it feels like it has improved my edge control, specifically switch, a ton. Looking forward to the day I can afford to add a Wildcat 108 to my quiver as the all mountain ski
 
14510250:Dlonetti said:
I always see people talking about the big mountain skis in this thread but never the park ski. So I am here to give the Frankenski some love. I picked up a used pair on a screamin deal from [tag=277941]@Redeem[/tag] last summer and have been riding them in the park for the past couple weeks. So light for a ski measuring 182, and so much energy in the ski that you can feel. I am a triple camber believer now, it feels like it has improved my edge control, specifically switch, a ton. Looking forward to the day I can afford to add a Wildcat 108 to my quiver as the all mountain ski
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That’s really funny. I have a cat 108 and have been looking to add something a little less charge heavy like the frankenski. Seems like it’s tons of fun without needing to sent it full scream down the mountain. Plus triple camber. I ski a lot of east coast so the size was very attractive.

after chatting with the moment peeps they recommended the deathwish 104 over the frankenski since I’m like maybe 10% park at this point if I’m being honest with myself.
 
14510255:PartyBullshiit said:
That’s really funny. I have a cat 108 and have been looking to add something a little less charge heavy like the frankenski. Seems like it’s tons of fun without needing to sent it full scream down the mountain. Plus triple camber. I ski a lot of east coast so the size was very attractive.

after chatting with the moment peeps they recommended the deathwish 104 over the frankenski since I’m like maybe 10% park at this point if I’m being honest with myself.
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I have actually been using them as a resort ski for most of the season too and they rip around. Super responsive and easy to maneuver
 
[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] in the past the 196 version of the Bibby was really different from the 190. If I remember correct different tip and tail shape / taper? How is that with the Wildcat? It appears to be the same shape / ski just bigger with larger turn radius? Taper etc the same?
 
14510411:Ghini said:
[tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] in the past the 196 version of the Bibby was really different from the 190. If I remember correct different tip and tail shape / taper? How is that with the Wildcat? It appears to be the same shape / ski just bigger with larger turn radius? Taper etc the same?
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In the past we had a Bibby 192, which was more powder focused. This version only lasted 1-2 seasons. We also had the Bibby Special / Governor 196, which was a very different shape with lots of taper and a flatter tail.

The Wildcat 196 is just a bigger version of the current Wildcat 190, with all the design characteristics present. Usual stuff with scaling length, the ski will be a touch stiffer, heavier, and have a longer turn radius. All other stats remain consistent in the Wildcat lineup.
 
You probably don't get this request too often but a relatively light weight, partial twin, ski in the low to mid 90s width, with lengths around 152, 159,166, with turn radii from 15-16 to 17-18 scaled to the length. I think it might be a winner for some folks out there? Perhaps offered in a touring layup as well?
 
You just described the Sierra & Sierra Tour

14510691:mystery3 said:
You probably don't get this request too often but a relatively light weight, partial twin, ski in the low to mid 90s width, with lengths around 152, 159,166, with turn radii from 15-16 to 17-18 scaled to the length. I think it might be a winner for some folks out there? Perhaps offered in a touring layup as well?
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14510691:mystery3 said:
You probably don't get this request too often but a relatively light weight, partial twin, ski in the low to mid 90s width, with lengths around 152, 159,166, with turn radii from 15-16 to 17-18 scaled to the length. I think it might be a winner for some folks out there? Perhaps offered in a touring layup as well?
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I think they would only sell one pair dude
 
14510867:ThaLorax said:
You just described the Sierra & Sierra Tour
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The Sierra is full twin and not very directional. I'm thinking more along the lines of a ladies commander shape and rocker wise.

14510870:Rodigan said:
I think they would only sell one pair dude
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You might be right but I think sales of the Santa Ana, Pandora, Black Pearl, etc. would indicate otherwise.
 
14510890:mystery3 said:
The Sierra is full twin and not very directional. I'm thinking more along the lines of a ladies commander shape and rocker wise.

You might be right but I think sales of the Santa Ana, Pandora, Black Pearl, etc. would indicate otherwise.
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Trying to make a copy/direct competitor to a Blizzard etc. has never really been their business model.
 
topic:hot.pocket said:
Moment Collection

If you're ever in the Reno area, stop by and say hi.

Phone: 775-527-1595

Email: info@momentskis.com

Hours: Tues-Fri 8am-6pm

Location:

1085 Bible Way

Reno, NV 89502

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With the current line up excluding the frankenski since it’s a park ski, would the meridian 107 be considered the most “playful” least “chargy” ski for 22/23 drops specifically
 
14510255:PartyBullshiit said:
That’s really funny. I have a cat 108 and have been looking to add something a little less charge heavy like the frankenski. Seems like it’s tons of fun without needing to sent it full scream down the mountain. Plus triple camber. I ski a lot of east coast so the size was very attractive.

after chatting with the moment peeps they recommended the deathwish 104 over the frankenski since I’m like maybe 10% park at this point if I’m being honest with myself.
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Further evidence that the franks can do anything

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1064685/trim-F3B182D1-FA05-4CB0-9894-101370C8C22C-MOV[/video]
 
14511608:PartyBullshiit said:
With the current line up excluding the frankenski since it’s a park ski, would the meridian 107 be considered the most “playful” least “chargy” ski for 22/23 drops specifically
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Kinda depends on what you deem playful. It's by far the most maneuverable, but is also quite stiff and due to the lack of camber, can feel dead in situations as you can't really load the ski up. I'd say it's a toss up between the Meridian and the Wildcat 101 / 108 for most playful, mostly coming down to your personal preference of camber vs full rocker.

14512152:thatsG said:
any details on the Wise pipe ski?
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We sold it for a year or two, but it has since become a Wise exclusive as there's not a lot of need for that ski outside of competitive halfpipe skiing.
 
14511608:PartyBullshiit said:
With the current line up excluding the frankenski since it’s a park ski, would the meridian 107 be considered the most “playful” least “chargy” ski for 22/23 drops specifically
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I got three pairs of Meridians, they charge.
 
Full deets on the moment countach 110.

“The Countach 110 fills the gap between Moment’s Wildcat and Commander series. The Countach 110 doesn’t have nearly as much tail splay as the Wildcat, but it has deeper rocker lines than the Commander skis. Similarly, the Countach 110’s recommended mount point of -8 cm from center splits the difference between the Wildcat (-6) and Commander (-10). While the Countach 110 doesn’t feature the metal layers of the Commanders, it does use their heavier poplar / beech wood core, and is designed to be a bit more damp and stable than the Wildcat 108, but more maneuverable and forgiving than the Commander 108.”

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14512633:PartyBullshiit said:
Full deets on the moment countach 110.

“The Countach 110 fills the gap between Moment’s Wildcat and Commander series. The Countach 110 doesn’t have nearly as much tail splay as the Wildcat, but it has deeper rocker lines than the Commander skis. Similarly, the Countach 110’s recommended mount point of -8 cm from center splits the difference between the Wildcat (-6) and Commander (-10). While the Countach 110 doesn’t feature the metal layers of the Commanders, it does use their heavier poplar / beech wood core, and is designed to be a bit more damp and stable than the Wildcat 108, but more maneuverable and forgiving than the Commander 108.”

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I fw whoever named it the countach heavy. If you didn't have a countach poster on your wall bought with your lunch money from a scholastic book fair, you missed out during childhood.
 
Any of you boys ride a Commander 108? I bought some a couple of seasons back but not got round to mounting them up yet….

How do they ride etc ? Groomed / crud / pow ……

thanks

(I saw the blister review just interested in some other perspectives)
 
14512637:ASSholebomber22 said:
I fw whoever named it the countach heavy. If you didn't have a countach poster on your wall bought with your lunch money from a scholastic book fair, you missed out during childhood.
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I had the countach, Ferrari f40 and Porsche 959 posters. Good times
 
14512642:Rodigan said:
Any of you boys ride a Commander 108?
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Biased view but [tag=173075]@tcurle[/tag] skis it often.

14512637:ASSholebomber22 said:
I fw whoever named it the countach heavy. If you didn't have a countach poster on your wall bought with your lunch money from a scholastic book fair, you missed out during childhood.
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So many people at the Summit brought up that poster after we mentioned the name.

14512633:PartyBullshiit said:
Full deets on the moment countach 110.
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Guess since the cat's out of the bag I can answer any questions y'all have regarding it.
 
Any idea what mount point amigo ?

14512652:hot.pocket said:
Biased view but [tag=173075]@tcurle[/tag] skis it often.

So many people at the Summit brought up that poster after we mentioned the name.

Guess since the cat's out of the bag I can answer any questions y'all have regarding it.
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