Mattress girl text/fb convos released

read through the first 20 pages or so on lunch break.

I'm not a lawyer, but Paul has to have some good money coming from Emma and Columbia am I correct?
 
I remember hearing about that crazy mattress girl. That sucks I feel bad for the dude. She doesn't even sound the least bit remorseful for fucking up his life. His parents might not be able to see him graduate coming from Germany and his job prospects are lowered... That really sucks.
 
topic:Peter. said:
you don’t miss my lopsided ass?”

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I really only read till Emma was trying to get other girls he had slept with to come forward that he raped them too. It was that moment I was like well this girl should probably see some jail time or at least needs some serious mental health help. That's some seriously fucked up shit.
 
13430330:Lé.Skiing said:
I really only read till Emma was trying to get other girls he had slept with to come forward that he raped them too. It was that moment I was like well this girl should probably see some jail time or at least needs some serious mental health help. That's some seriously fucked up shit.[/quote/]

yeah I agree so much. with all of these feminist movements it makes it pretty easy for people to just accuse guys of rape. I'm not endorsing rape or anything but when people falsely accuse people of rape they deserve some jail time.
 
13430465:nochill said:
I really only read till Emma was trying to get other girls he had slept with to come forward that he raped them too. It was that moment I was like well this girl should probably see some jail time or at least needs some serious mental health help. That's some seriously fucked up shit.

yeah I agree so much. with all of these feminist movements it makes it pretty easy for people to just accuse guys of rape. I'm not endorsing rape or anything but when people falsely accuse people of rape they deserve some jail time.

Whether it's jail or some time in a psych ward, this bitch is clearly in the wrong and deserves punishment. It wasn't a misunderstanding, she went out of her way to try to get other girls to accuse him of rape too. I don't know if that's breaking the law, but it's fucked up nonetheless. There should be some kind of law or something to protect men from this kind of false accusation if there's not already.
 
13430478:cddlswthsqrrls said:
There should be some kind of law or something to protect men from this kind of false accusation if there's not already.

I agree. Men have it SOOO hard in this day and age.
 
Skimmed it.. if its all true she should be looking at jail time... Defamation of character etc etc

They should make her travel around and speak at seminars about false rape allegations and the damage it can have. Seems fitting ahah
 
13430478:cddlswthsqrrls said:
There should be some kind of law or something to protect men from this kind of false accusation if there's not already.

it's considered slander, at the very least.
 
I cant wait to hear how buttfucked columbia and that dumb ass hoe get by paul and his lawyers. pun intended. she genuinely sounds like the shittiest most vindictive girl ever.... "im not into you" *internationally defames and harasses as a serial rapist*

i hope she has to go on to multiple public media outlets and make an apology to the dude, as with columbia, and that senator, and time magazine
 
13430550:mmallender. said:
I cant wait to hear how buttfucked columbia and that dumb ass hoe get by paul and his lawyers. pun intended. she genuinely sounds like the shittiest most vindictive girl ever.... "im not into you" *internationally defames and harasses as a serial rapist*

i hope she has to go on to multiple public media outlets and make an apology to the dude, as with columbia, and that senator, and time magazine

to top it all off, the president didnt shake her hand at graduation and she is calling it due to "rich white privilege"

no, it's because you fucked over the entire college
 
13430590:Peter. said:
to top it all off, the president didnt shake her hand at graduation and she is calling it due to "rich white privilege"

no, it's because you fucked over the entire college

HAHAHAHAHA what a piece of work.

I mean if she was in fact raped, and they end up charging the dude, I'll take it all back, but it's pretty overwhelmingly clear that she has some serious issues.

Even if you look at a picture of her. She looks like such an awfully shitty human being.

He sat patiently and followed the rules while all of this was going on, he adhered to the policies and rules of the school, didn't get involved in any media that reached out to him and he's just accumulated a pretty outstanding court case for what he's gone through.

To top it all off, he sounds like a pretty stand up guy, raised by some pretty great parents and was pretty involved with the school.

This chick is a dumb bitch and a half
 
13430478:cddlswthsqrrls said:
Whether it's jail or some time in a psych ward, this bitch is clearly in the wrong and deserves punishment. It wasn't a misunderstanding, she went out of her way to try to get other girls to accuse him of rape too. I don't know if that's breaking the law, but it's fucked up nonetheless. There should be some kind of law or something to protect men from this kind of false accusation if there's not already.

this sucks as a man, but it doesnt really affect men firsthand.

HOWEVER, women should be absolutely irate and ready to rip this girls throat out. She just made it one helluva lot harder for women to report rape and be believed. She offset about a decades worth of victims right's work.
 
13430628:californiagrown said:
this sucks as a man, but it doesnt really affect men firsthand.

HOWEVER, women should be absolutely irate and ready to rip this girls throat out. She just made it one helluva lot harder for women to report rape and be believed. She offset about a decades worth of victims right's work.

THIS x100000 God I hate people like her, there are no words for the hate I feel towards people like her. Rape on campuses is such a big deal, and she makes it a laughing joke and she ruins the kids life. Like fuck, really great work making it even harder for women to be believed or taken seriously. Also it's not like anyone should EVER lie about rape anyways, that's fucked on its own.
 
13430628:californiagrown said:
this sucks as a man, but it doesnt really affect men firsthand.

HOWEVER, women should be absolutely irate and ready to rip this girls throat out. She just made it one helluva lot harder for women to report rape and be believed. She offset about a decades worth of victims right's work.

You're posting in a thread about it effecting a man...... and you're trying to make women be the victims here? Where's dingo when you need him. kind of blows my mind your against crueler punishment of people that make false accusations of rape. none of these women ever see jail time.
 
13430746:nocturnal said:
You're posting in a thread about it effecting a man...... and you're trying to make women be the victims here? Where's dingo when you need him. kind of blows my mind your against crueler punishment of people that make false accusations of rape. none of these women ever see jail time.

Are you retarded? Like genuinely, in the medical sense of the word? At the very least you have got to be on the spectrum, right?
 
13430749:californiagrown said:
Are you retarded? Like genuinely, in the medical sense of the word? At the very least you have got to be on the spectrum, right?

There should be some kind of law or something to protect men from this kind of false accusation if there's not already.

"this sucks as a man, but it doesnt really affect men firsthand."

You're on the wrong side of this discussion, it effects men, and it happens a lot more than you seem to think.
 
13430752:nocturnal said:
There should be some kind of law or something to protect men from this kind of false accusation if there's not already.

"this sucks as a man, but it doesnt really affect men firsthand."

You're on the wrong side of this discussion, it effects men, and it happens a lot more than you seem to think.

you are either medically retarded, in which case i am sorry, or you are just truly, truly dumb.

This particular case AFFECTED 1 man. thats it. Were you hurt by it? was i hurt by it? No. Paul was hurt by it.

This case AFFECTED all women who will be raped in the future. If you do not understand how this dumb gash's actions have had an EFFECT on victims and their chances of being shamed and or believed, then go ask somebody.
 
13430754:californiagrown said:
you are either medically retarded, in which case i am sorry, or you are just truly, truly dumb.

This particular case AFFECTED 1 man. thats it. Were you hurt by it? was i hurt by it? No. Paul was hurt by it.

This case AFFECTED all women who will be raped in the future. If you do not understand how this dumb gash's actions have had an EFFECT on victims and their chances of being shamed and or believed, then go ask somebody.

oh yeah I forgot this only happen to one man in the entire existence of human history.
 
13430770:californiagrown said:
What other man did she do this to?

Happens all the time.

Guy at my school gets drunk at party and bangs a freshman. They are both drunk and he doesn't wear a jimmy. The girl freaks out next day and tells her parents. The parent then forced the girl to press charges and the guy got fucked.....they haven't gone to court yet that I know of. But his life has already been fucked.
 
13430746:nocturnal said:
You're posting in a thread about it effecting a man...... and you're trying to make women be the victims here? Where's dingo when you need him. kind of blows my mind your against crueler punishment of people that make false accusations of rape. none of these women ever see jail time.

sometimes i dream that someone takes over the justice system in America, and absolutely destroys all the cunts like this one.

Clearly our current legal system can't handle actual justice, understanding bias, and punishing guilty parties like they should be.

This chick should be forced to deep-throat a glock 9 in the middle of Times Square.
 
The best part is all of the hyper-liberal sources I've read about this in are saying it's completely normal for the accuser to have normal contact like this with her rapist after the rape...YA FUCKING RIGHT if this girl was raped I highly doubt she'd say the shit she did to her "rapist" before and after he "raped her".
 
13430851:207 said:
The best part is all of the hyper-liberal sources I've read about this in are saying it's completely normal for the accuser to have normal contact like this with her rapist after the rape...YA FUCKING RIGHT if this girl was raped I highly doubt she'd say the shit she did to her "rapist" before and after he "raped her".

yeah, this girl was clearly obsessed with this dude
 
13430835:Profahoben_212 said:
Happens all the time.

Guy at my school gets drunk at party and bangs a freshman. They are both drunk and he doesn't wear a jimmy. The girl freaks out next day and tells her parents. The parent then forced the girl to press charges and the guy got fucked.....they haven't gone to court yet that I know of. But his life has already been fucked.

A) that is not this case.

B) I'm sorry you can't see how your specific incident affected a few hundred people's perception of rape victims, while this woman has affected millions of peoples perception.

C) don't fuck drunk girls. If you do, risk being a rapist. Pretty simple. Especially if the girl is very, very drunk. That's rape, buddy. Your friend did rape her.

D) one guy you know has been fucked by a " false" accusation. Many, many girls hear of this incident who were similarly raped and won't come forward because they similarly won't be believed, leading their rapist to continue raping. Which gender is most affected? This one dumb bitch managed to color the opinion of millions of people toward not believing rape victims. The consequences of that are far greater than one, singular ruined reputation.
 
13430893:californiagrown said:
A) that is not this case.

B) I'm sorry you can't see how your specific incident affected a few hundred people's perception of rape victims, while this woman has affected millions of peoples perception.

C) don't fuck drunk girls. If you do, risk being a rapist. Pretty simple. Especially if the girl is very, very drunk. That's rape, buddy. Your friend did rape her.

D) one guy you know has been fucked by a " false" accusation. Many, many girls hear of this incident who were similarly raped and won't come forward because they similarly won't be believed, leading their rapist to continue raping. Which gender is most affected? This one dumb bitch managed to color the opinion of millions of people toward not believing rape victims. The consequences of that are far greater than one, singular ruined reputation.

A) I realize that this isn't the same. Just pointing out that there are many situations that involve this.

B) few hundred? That's pretty generous. And they ruined his, and his families life. If you can't see the wrong in that then you should re-evaluate the situation.

C) Definatly was not rape. It was between 2 consenting people. if he was not also drunk, or if he got her drunk with the intent of fucking her....then yes that could be rape. But it is not.. so that's wrong.

If it is rape between two equally drunk people then who is to say is the rapsit? How could you prove who truly wanted it? You cant.

C) I understand what you are trying to say, but to say it doesn't affect men is very one sided. It ruins their lives. There should indeed be a punishment for women who cry wolf.
 
13430904:Profahoben_212 said:
A) I realize that this isn't the same. Just pointing out that there are many situations that involve this.

B) few hundred? That's pretty generous. And they ruined his, and his families life. If you can't see the wrong in that then you should re-evaluate the situation.

C) Definatly was not rape. It was between 2 consenting people. if he was not also drunk, or if he got her drunk with the intent of fucking her....then yes that could be rape. But it is not.. so that's wrong.

If it is rape between two equally drunk people then who is to say is the rapsit? How could you prove who truly wanted it? You cant.

C) I understand what you are trying to say, but to say it doesn't affect men is very one sided. It ruins their lives. There should indeed be a punishment for women who cry wolf.

A) and there are waaaaaaaaay more situations of girls not coming forward for fear of not being believed.

B) it didnt ruin his familys life, it may have stained their reputation. It ruined the accused's life.

C) was she drunker than him? the fact that he was still able to get it up leads me to believe she was drunker. consent isnt possible when drunk- so who knows if she really wanted it. Greek programs stress the shit out of this, its common knowledge. Was it actually rape, not in the letter of the law sense? probly not. But who actually knows? Rape isnt just hold-you-down forced sex...

D) THIS CASE OF THE MATTRESS GIRL AFFECTED ONE GUY. WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BRING UP RANDOM UNCONNECTED INSTANCES? ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?!?!?! What other men did this case affect? None.

The issue with punishing the whole girl who cried wolf thing is how do you know when its a girl who cried wolf and when its a girl who simply cannot prove she was raped? Its a really shitty catch-22.
 
13430330:Lé.Skiing said:
I really only read till Emma was trying to get other girls he had slept with to come forward that he raped them too. It was that moment I was like well this girl should probably see some jail time or at least needs some serious mental health help. That's some seriously fucked up shit.

If you'd kept reading you'd have gotten to the part where she and those girls started basically telling people that he'd raped them (despite the fact that he hadn't). He was still under a confidentiality contract of some sort and thus couldn't say anything. He lost all his friends and everything that he'd worked for in the US.

That's fucked up.
 
13430913:californiagrown said:
D) THIS CASE OF THE MATTRESS GIRL AFFECTED ONE GUY. WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BRING UP RANDOM UNCONNECTED INSTANCES? ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?!?!?! What other men did this case affect? None.

What other men did this case affect? how about the precedent it set that its okay to go on a national rampage to defame and ruin someone else's life, guilty or innocent, being a vindictive bitch and essentially taking the vigilante "justice" approach is never ok.

in this particular case, being told time and time again that he is innocent, that you cant keep changing your story, that you dont have a case, results in you taking things WAY too far, and thusly letting other people think its okay to ruin the lives of others.

what was that famous quote....... an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind?

lets say that she was in fact raped, and that he was found innocent unjustly. where is the first hand testimony that she should have had, where are ANY witnesses to ANYTHING that she claimed. From her account of her rape, she should have had visible bruising and bodily damage, yet she was out in public at school social events and not ONE person could testify that she had any visible remnants?

He wasnt allowed to submit his counter evidence, but was still found innocent...

You talk about the effect that this case is going to have on future rape victims due to the victim shaming and creating an environment where victims are afraid to come forward?

What about the precedent it sets that says its okay to falsely accuse someone of rape, people talk about how it is a serious crime, and shouldnt be taken lightly, neither should accusing someone, falsely or not, its a two way street. Furthermore, it gives people the idea that when your false accusations dont hold up, when your "rapist" goes free, YOU SHOULD GO TO THE MOTHERFUCKING ENDS OF THE EARTH TO MAKE SURE HE SUFFERS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE AND IS FOREVER IDENTIFIED AS A RAPIST....... because he didnt reciprocate feelings for him, and you are a goddamn lunatic who has lost her mind.

then again, if she was in fact raped, i take it all back, im going off of what i have read in a he says/she says situation, and based on what i have read, in my non expert opinion on the matter, i believe that he didnt rape her, and that she is absolutely out of her fucking mind.
 
13430945:mmallender. said:
What other men did this case affect? how about the precedent it set that its okay to go on a national rampage to defame and ruin someone else's life, guilty or innocent, being a vindictive bitch and essentially taking the vigilante "justice" approach is never ok.

in this particular case, being told time and time again that he is innocent, that you cant keep changing your story, that you dont have a case, results in you taking things WAY too far, and thusly letting other people think its okay to ruin the lives of others.

what was that famous quote....... an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind?

lets say that she was in fact raped, and that he was found innocent unjustly. where is the first hand testimony that she should have had, where are ANY witnesses to ANYTHING that she claimed. From her account of her rape, she should have had visible bruising and bodily damage, yet she was out in public at school social events and not ONE person could testify that she had any visible remnants?

He wasnt allowed to submit his counter evidence, but was still found innocent...

You talk about the effect that this case is going to have on future rape victims due to the victim shaming and creating an environment where victims are afraid to come forward?

What about the precedent it sets that says its okay to falsely accuse someone of rape, people talk about how it is a serious crime, and shouldnt be taken lightly, neither should accusing someone, falsely or not, its a two way street. Furthermore, it gives people the idea that when your false accusations dont hold up, when your "rapist" goes free, YOU SHOULD GO TO THE MOTHERFUCKING ENDS OF THE EARTH TO MAKE SURE HE SUFFERS FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE AND IS FOREVER IDENTIFIED AS A RAPIST....... because he didnt reciprocate feelings for him, and you are a goddamn lunatic who has lost her mind.

then again, if she was in fact raped, i take it all back, im going off of what i have read in a he says/she says situation, and based on what i have read, in my non expert opinion on the matter, i believe that he didnt rape her, and that she is absolutely out of her fucking mind.

This dumb see-u-next-tuesday is being publicly humiliated and and blasted for lying about the whole thing. she has been totally discredited, is being sued, and will likely have serious charges brought against her. How does any of that set a precedent that here actions were okay?

Are you people fucking retarded?
 
13430978:nocturnal said:
Nope just you, notice how no one else is agreeing with you, or your name calling.

Thats cause anyone with half a brain is staying out of this shit-show of a thread. I should probably follow suit.

Its not name calling, btw, its a question...

Have a good time ignoring the larger effect of this unfortunate news story.
 
13430962:californiagrown said:
This dumb see-u-next-tuesday is being publicly humiliated and and blasted for lying about the whole thing. she has been totally discredited, is being sued, and will likely have serious charges brought against her. How does any of that set a precedent that here actions were okay?

Are you people fucking retarded?

for years she was doing it with zero repercussions, she was repeatedly breaking rule after rule, confidentiality and privacy, set by the school, and then these rules were altered so she could continue to do so. so yes, she should be sued for her actions, and should be treated thusly by the school, she fucked them over too.

yes it still does set a precedent, shes being sued? so what? that doesnt mean he didnt spend years of his life dealing with a vindictive little girl on a rampage of a smear campaign that NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON of authority had ANY issue with whatsoever until now that the two have graduated and he is no longer restrained by the rules of confidentiality and privacy that he abided by. Had he not taken matters into his own hands, this would still be going on, it would be a non issue, nobody would have said a thing.

sounds pretty similar to a rape now doesnt it? except the difference being, he KNOWS that she in fact did do something wrong, he went through the motions, he went through the incredibly draining YEARS of being discredited, humiliated, harassed, and mistreated and now he has his case with an overwhelming amount of evidence against her and the school. Once again, its a two way street, she fucked up, real hard. The difference between his and hers is she KNOWS she didnt and doesnt have a case, the process of having him charged with her "actual" rape was too draining? the questions were too invasive (the EXACT same questions he was asked) and it wasnt worth it?

so instead she went on a NATIONAL smear campaign, making sure he was branded as a serial rapist, going to congressional dinners, being interviewed by EVERYONE for EVERYTHING, having her entire life in the public eye, telling her story over and over and over again for everyone and anyone who will listen, carrying a fucking mattress around for her entire senior year... thats LESS DRAINING than having a few confidential, personal, explicit, invasive interviews about what happened to make sure he was held accountable for his actions.

give me a fucking break. that sounds more like the actions of someone who knows she has no case but wants to follow through on her vindictive, personal vendetta, than have someone held accountable for their actions
 
13430984:mmallender. said:
for years she was doing it with zero repercussions, she was repeatedly breaking rule after rule, confidentiality and privacy, set by the school, and then these rules were altered so she could continue to do so. so yes, she should be sued for her actions, and should be treated thusly by the school, she fucked them over too.

yes it still does set a precedent, shes being sued? so what? that doesnt mean he didnt spend years of his life dealing with a vindictive little girl on a rampage of a smear campaign that NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON of authority had ANY issue with whatsoever until now that the two have graduated and he is no longer restrained by the rules of confidentiality and privacy that he abided by. Had he not taken matters into his own hands, this would still be going on, it would be a non issue, nobody would have said a thing.

sounds pretty similar to a rape now doesnt it? except the difference being, he KNOWS that she in fact did do something wrong, he went through the motions, he went through the incredibly draining YEARS of being discredited, humiliated, harassed, and mistreated and now he has his case with an overwhelming amount of evidence against her and the school. Once again, its a two way street, she fucked up, real hard. The difference between his and hers is she KNOWS she didnt and doesnt have a case, the process of having him charged with her "actual" rape was too draining? the questions were too invasive (the EXACT same questions he was asked) and it wasnt worth it?

so instead she went on a NATIONAL smear campaign, making sure he was branded as a serial rapist, going to congressional dinners, being interviewed by EVERYONE for EVERYTHING, having her entire life in the public eye, telling her story over and over and over again for everyone and anyone who will listen, carrying a fucking mattress around for her entire senior year... thats LESS DRAINING than having a few confidential, personal, explicit, invasive interviews about what happened to make sure he was held accountable for his actions.

give me a fucking break. that sounds more like the actions of someone who knows she has no case but wants to follow through on her vindictive, personal vendetta, than have someone held accountable for their actions

I think we all agree here that she is 100% in the wrong, committed a horrible crime, and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
 
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