Mattress girl text/fb convos released

13430915:miroz said:
If you'd kept reading you'd have gotten to the part where she and those girls started basically telling people that he'd raped them (despite the fact that he hadn't). He was still under a confidentiality contract of some sort and thus couldn't say anything. He lost all his friends and everything that he'd worked for in the US.

That's fucked up.

that's one of the worst things i've heard. What a psycho
 
13430980:californiagrown said:
Thats cause anyone with half a brain is staying out of this shit-show of a thread. I should probably follow suit.

Its not name calling, btw, its a question...

Have a good time ignoring the larger effect of this unfortunate news story.

And you're ignoring the effect it has on men. This girl won like 4 feminist Awards And praised for what she did with out showing any proof. For ruining a man's life.

Three recently filed lawsuits show the other side of the “rape crisis,” how the media glosses over ambiguity to advance an agenda, creating heroes out of potential liars and villains out of the possibly innocent. I say “potential” and “possible” because in the real world, ambiguity is common and clarity is rare. But its difficult to create a crisis out of confusion, so agenda-driven “journalists” manufacture clarity, no matter the cost. The three most prominent campus rape stories of the past year — Columbia University’s “mattress” protest, the Rolling Stone hoax, and former Florida State University quarterback Jameis Winston’s alleged assault — are now the subject of three unusual lawsuits. Each lawsuit directly challenges rape narratives that the plaintiffs claim were deeply harmful to their reputations, finances, and emotional well-being.

Read more at:http://www.nationalreview.com/article/418686/mattress-girl-perfect-icon-feminist-left-ian-tuttle

I just don't get why you don't seem to care about the victims in this story it's not other women its the men who's lives and reputations were destroyed. there are real women out there who gets held down and forcibly raped and that's awful however it's not one out of 8 college students, and if you would like to have that discussion that's for another thread which has been already talked about.
 
13430989:californiagrown said:
I think we all agree here that she is 100% in the wrong, committed a horrible crime, and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

how can you not see that this is setting a dangerous precedent for a problem that is becoming more and more apparent. this girl went completely unpunished for 3 years for internationally defaming this guy and completely ruining his life. she is completely psychotic and what does she get for that? she gets fucking rewarded by feminists saying that she is good for standing up for herself.

her degree should be stripped and she should face jailtime. i hope this kid walks away with $$$ from the university and from the pathetic excuse for a women.

you are deluded if you think this doesn't affect all men. girls will see what the bitch has done, gain national fame and awards and think it is perfectly fine for them to do aswell, which thet have already begun. it should be innocent until proven guilty but feminazis want the burden of proof to lie on the defendant. which is completely fucking moronic.
 
13431878:pow_pow~ said:
how can you not see that this is setting a dangerous precedent for a problem that is becoming more and more apparent. this girl went completely unpunished for 3 years for internationally defaming this guy and completely ruining his life. she is completely psychotic and what does she get for that? she gets fucking rewarded by feminists saying that she is good for standing up for herself.

her degree should be stripped and she should face jailtime. i hope this kid walks away with $$$ from the university and from the pathetic excuse for a women.

you are deluded if you think this doesn't affect all men. girls will see what the bitch has done, gain national fame and awards and think it is perfectly fine for them to do aswell, which thet have already begun. it should be innocent until proven guilty but feminazis want the burden of proof to lie on the defendant. which is completely fucking moronic.

i agree 100% with the first two paragraphs.

the last one- you are deluded if you dont think that this girl is going to be held up as an example of a lying victim, and this one example will be the reason that actual victims will either no be believed, or will not come forward because they fear they will not be believed. Look, no one except those with physiological problems thinks its okay to outright lie, defame, and ruin some innocent persons life. Dont be so fucking disgusting to think that any significant amount of women are like this one horrible girl.
 
13431891:californiagrown said:
i agree 100% with the first two paragraphs.

the last one- you are deluded if you dont think that this girl is going to be held up as an example of a lying victim, and this one example will be the reason that actual victims will either no be believed, or will not come forward because they fear they will not be believed. Look, no one except those with physiological problems thinks its okay to outright lie, defame, and ruin some innocent persons life. Dont be so fucking disgusting to think that any significant amount of women are like this one horrible girl.

She won't be this shit happens all the time and no one is ever punished.
 
13431891:californiagrown said:
i agree 100% with the first two paragraphs.

the last one- you are deluded if you dont think that this girl is going to be held up as an example of a lying victim, and this one example will be the reason that actual victims will either no be believed, or will not come forward because they fear they will not be believed. Look, no one except those with physiological problems thinks its okay to outright lie, defame, and ruin some innocent persons life. Dont be so fucking disgusting to think that any significant amount of women are like this one horrible girl.

im not deluded because shes not being held up as an example of a lying victim!! have you noticed that the only pages exposing the truth of her lies are male rights pages, all the fucking feminist pages love her.

there are a significant amount of women like this girl. it happens every day but the seriousness of it is played down because of people like you denying it exists.
 
13431960:pow_pow~ said:
im not deluded because shes not being held up as an example of a lying victim!! have you noticed that the only pages exposing the truth of her lies are male rights pages, all the fucking feminist pages love her.

there are a significant amount of women like this girl. it happens every day but the seriousness of it is played down because of people like you denying it exists.

haha not at all. Just because the girl cannot prove she was raped does not mean she shouldnt report the rapist.
 
It's not a matter of men or women being right. The fact of the matter is this woman is screwing both men and women over.

She is being lauded by ultra-feminists, however she is contributing to the future mistrust of victims. It's disgusting that people would lie about something as heinous as being raped, but because people do, actual victims fear they won't be believed and stay silent.

Men are getting screwed because people because we live in a culture where anyone can cry 'rape' when they regret last night, and that's terrifying. Because actual victims are staying silent, actual rapists are getting away with it, which leads the ultra-fem's to accuse men of getting away with rape.

It's a vicious, nasty circle.

And drunk sex? I think it's stupid, but if you are willing to put yourself in that situation, you should be willing to deal with the consequences. I'm not saying it's right that someone would cry 'rape', but that's the world we live in now.
 
13431962:californiagrown said:
haha not at all. Just because the girl cannot prove she was raped does not mean she shouldnt report the rapist.

and what about the hundreds of girls crying rape like this filthy bitch when in fact nothing happened and they just have an ulterior motive.

stop trying to play this off like it never happens. it does. but once the girls are proven liars they are glorified by the feminist media, not shamed as they should be.

do you remember the rolling stone one? another woman proven to be lying and what did the feminist media do? they blamed rolling stone for publishing a fake story, and then, glorified the girl for doing what she did (a crime) because somehow it empowers other girls to come forward. it doesnt. every false rape case, which are growing exponentially every week, takes away from legitimate rape cases, as you said. it also severely hurts all males because they are now being seen as easy targets for 15 mins of fame.
 
13431979:pow_pow~ said:
and what about the hundreds of girls crying rape like this filthy bitch when in fact nothing happened and they just have an ulterior motive.

stop trying to play this off like it never happens. it does. but once the girls are proven liars they are glorified by the feminist media, not shamed as they should be.

do you remember the rolling stone one? another woman proven to be lying and what did the feminist media do? they blamed rolling stone for publishing a fake story, and then, glorified the girl for doing what she did (a crime) because somehow it empowers other girls to come forward. it doesnt. every false rape case, which are growing exponentially every week, takes away from legitimate rape cases, as you said. it also severely hurts all males because they are now being seen as easy targets for 15 mins of fame.

Hundreds of girls lying about being raped? Sweet statistics man. care to share your sources?

Not to mention, do you realize how few a couple hundred women is in comparison to the amount of women in college, and the amount of women in college who will be raped?
 
13431985:californiagrown said:
Hundreds of girls lying about being raped? Sweet statistics man. care to share your sources?

Not to mention, do you realize how few a couple hundred women is in comparison to the amount of women in college, and the amount of women in college who will be raped?

that is an almost impossible stat for any institute to publish with any faith.

On another note, my college town just passed a new law that states that no one can ever give consent while legally drunk. So any drunk person you ever hook up with has legitimate grounds for a rape case. That doesnt sound fucked to you? My town is one of the most fem/liberal places in America, but this is a new low for them.
 
13432012:L_B said:
that is an almost impossible stat for any institute to publish with any faith.

On another note, my college town just passed a new law that states that no one can ever give consent while legally drunk. So any drunk person you ever hook up with has legitimate grounds for a rape case. That doesnt sound fucked to you? My town is one of the most fem/liberal places in America, but this is a new low for them.

At what point do you draw the line though? When is someone too drunk to give consent? Surely there is a line somewhere?
 
13432023:saskskier said:
At what point do you draw the line though? When is someone too drunk to give consent? Surely there is a line somewhere?

Oh yeah i'd agree! On that very same note tho, I know quite a few chicks who get as hammered as possible as an easier to hook up with random dudes (which is fine). I've seen 2 fake rape reports and 0 real ones in the last year within my own circle of people. Both were shot down by everyone, male and female, who could contest it.

Does that mean fake allegations are more probable than real rape? Probably not, since most rape ends up unreported or being reported 10 years down the road.

But the fake allegations hurt both sides, and the super-fems should be fucking pissed that chicks like mattress girl and generalized laws like this one are even up for consideration as morally acceptable. They aren't. At this point its clear they've stopped using logic on issues like this, and therefore the rest of their "logic" can safely be ignored.

The scarier aspect is that this mentality is seeping into our schools and laws, and can mean random catastrophic social media rampages against innocent-until-proven-guilty/ already-guilty-because-fuckmen. That is not progress, fear isn't progress, and to any chick that thinks her living conditions here in the USA are SOOO bad that males should lose the right to due process, go to the fucking middle east/South America/Northern Africa/Southeast Asia.

They have real rape epidemics, and corrupt governments that support rape and sex trafficking. We don't, and I'm so tired of feminazi's acting like we do. We do have issues, but the response to the sexist culture we have are more that over the top, they're unfathomably stupid to anyone whose brain isn't fueled by ice cream and manhate tumblr posts.
 
13431985:californiagrown said:
Hundreds of girls lying about being raped? Sweet statistics man. care to share your sources?

Not to mention, do you realize how few a couple hundred women is in comparison to the amount of women in college, and the amount of women in college who will be raped?

I don't think that they realize how prevalent sexual assault is. Period. It happens. All. Of. The. Time. and EVERYWHERE. Girls and to a lesser extent guys are just way more susceptible in college because of the new freedoms and considerable alcohol consumption, but it happens at home, at daycare, high school, work, on the street, etc... And for how many girls are assaulted, not very many report. I don't imagine it's a very comfortable experience... Telling a stranger how you felt vulnerable and some how at fault, but that this guy just violated your sexual organs - not to mention if any violence occurred .... I don't know, that sounds like it would be awful... And then for years and years afterwards, having to talk about it, see him, confront him, tell rooms full of rotating strangers every single last detail you remember? Yikes.

And on another note entirely, a quick google search revealed that this guy was actually found responsible of assaulting another student a year earlier... but was still on campus, appealed and the complainant withdrew her complaint... I guess she didn't want to talk about it any more.

She had no relation to mattress girl that was revealed in the piece, so I guess mattress girl didn't ruin his reputation and slander his family name after all ...

I don't know, I feel like the whole story isn't all quite pieced together.

for reference: http://jezebel.com/i-am-not-a-pretty-little-liar-1705996719
 
HOWEVER - falsely accusing someone of rape, should and is punishable by law - and it should be prosecuted within reason and appropriate circumstance. Every single false accusation makes it infinitely harder for real victims to report their abuse.
 
13432012:L_B said:
that is an almost impossible stat for any institute to publish with any faith.

On another note, my college town just passed a new law that states that no one can ever give consent while legally drunk. So any drunk person you ever hook up with has legitimate grounds for a rape case. That doesnt sound fucked to you? My town is one of the most fem/liberal places in America, but this is a new low for them.

No it doesn't sound all that fucked up. If the girl is drunk and you aren't already fucking previously, know that its a big risk.

And I doubt the law says " woman"... It says "party", which applies to men as well.

Ever thought that the culture of drunk promises college students having random, often terrible sex isn't a good thing?
 
13432057:californiagrown said:
No it doesn't sound all that fucked up. If the girl is drunk and you aren't already fucking previously, know that its a big risk.

And I doubt the law says " woman"... It says "party", which applies to men as well.

Ever thought that the culture of drunk promises college students having random, often terrible sex isn't a good thing?

lol your tellin me my whiskey dick is hurting her? i wish
 
13432057:californiagrown said:
No it doesn't sound all that fucked up. If the girl is drunk and you aren't already fucking previously, know that its a big risk.

And I doubt the law says " woman"... It says "party", which applies to men as well.

Ever thought that the culture of drunk promises college students having random, often terrible sex isn't a good thing?

and who are he victims of 90% of rapes... Women, which this law was passed to "protect". And it doesn't just include strangers, this is ANY drunk person. Husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, if theyre drunk and you bone, someone got raped.
 
13432028:the.hellion. said:
And on another note entirely, a quick google search revealed that this guy was actually found responsible of assaulting another student a year earlier... but was still on campus, appealed and the complainant withdrew her complaint... I guess she didn't want to talk about it any more.

She had no relation to mattress girl that was revealed in the piece, so I guess mattress girl didn't ruin his reputation and slander his family name after all ...

I don't know, I feel like the whole story isn't all quite pieced together.

for reference: http://jezebel.com/i-am-not-a-pretty-little-liar-1705996719

13432031:the.hellion. said:
Well in that article this is what it says about the other 'sexual assault'

The incident happened my junior year at Columbia, when Paul followed me upstairs at a party, came into a room with me uninvited, closed the door behind us, and grabbed me. I politely said, “Hey, no, come on, let’s go back downstairs.” He didn’t listen. He held me close to him as I said no, and continued to pull me against him. I pushed him off and left the room quickly.

Lol these fucking ivy cooks.
 
13432028:the.hellion. said:
I don't think that they realize how prevalent sexual assault is. Period. It happens. All. Of. The. Time. and EVERYWHERE. Girls and to a lesser extent guys are just way more susceptible in college because of the new freedoms and considerable alcohol consumption, but it happens at home, at daycare, high school, work, on the street, etc... And for how many girls are assaulted, not very many report. I don't imagine it's a very comfortable experience... Telling a stranger how you felt vulnerable and some how at fault, but that this guy just violated your sexual organs - not to mention if any violence occurred .... I don't know, that sounds like it would be awful... And then for years and years afterwards, having to talk about it, see him, confront him, tell rooms full of rotating strangers every single last detail you remember? Yikes.

And on another note entirely, a quick google search revealed that this guy was actually found responsible of assaulting another student a year earlier... but was still on campus, appealed and the complainant withdrew her complaint... I guess she didn't want to talk about it any more.

She had no relation to mattress girl that was revealed in the piece, so I guess mattress girl didn't ruin his reputation and slander his family name after all ...

I don't know, I feel like the whole story isn't all quite pieced together.

for reference: http://jezebel.com/i-am-not-a-pretty-little-liar-1705996719

Jezebel! Talk about a credible source!

Mattress girl 100% ruined his reputation AND family name. If you did any reading you'd learn that both Paul's parents not only taught him values in opposition to this case but also work in fields where respecting women and their rights is at the forefront.

Mattress girl got caught in a lie and instead of admitting it kept pushing and pushing her "truth" because she is too much of a coward and scumbag to take some personal responsibility.

Columbia handled this situation atrociously and I hope Paul's family sues the fuck out of them too.
 
13432235:Granite_State said:
Jezebel! Talk about a credible source!

Mattress girl 100% ruined his reputation AND family name. If you did any reading you'd learn that both Paul's parents not only taught him values in opposition to this case but also work in fields where respecting women and their rights is at the forefront.

Mattress girl got caught in a lie and instead of admitting it kept pushing and pushing her "truth" because she is too much of a coward and scumbag to take some personal responsibility.

Columbia handled this situation atrociously and I hope Paul's family sues the fuck out of them too.

Yeah, Jezebel isn't my favourite either, but did you read the piece ? It's not a journalists accounting of the situation - the girl he was formerly found responsible of sexually assaulting wrote it - though anonymously. The source article at the top of this thread is extremely biased all I'm trying to do here is open up a conversation..
 
13432067:PULL said:
lol your tellin me my whiskey dick is hurting her? i wish

Even when hard you aren't hurting anyone...

13432140:L_B said:
and who are he victims of 90% of rapes... Women, which this law was passed to "protect". And it doesn't just include strangers, this is ANY drunk person. Husband, wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, if theyre drunk and you bone, someone got raped.

Yeah. And spanking that ass when hitting it from behind is assault... Technically. You have to read the situation. Use common sense man, don't be one of those people only considering the extremes.

The law is there to make it easier to prove rape, because it will almost always come down to a he said she said- many times the guy didn't " know" he was in the wrong because young culture condones getting sloppy drunk and fucking.

Why is it so difficult for people to come to terms with drunk srx being dangerous for a multitude of reasons.
 
13432251:californiagrown said:
Even when hard you aren't hurting anyone...

Yeah. And spanking that ass when hitting it from behind is assault... Technically. You have to read the situation. Use common sense man, don't be one of those people only considering the extremes.

The law is there to make it easier to prove rape, because it will almost always come down to a he said she said- many times the guy didn't " know" he was in the wrong because young culture condones getting sloppy drunk and fucking.

Why is it so difficult for people to come to terms with drunk srx being dangerous for a multitude of reasons.

because both parties get drunk to have sex, both sides make mistakes, and one half is currently being set up to be punished for the same mistakes while the other isn't.
 
13432244:the.hellion. said:
Yeah, Jezebel isn't my favourite either, but did you read the piece ? It's not a journalists accounting of the situation - the girl he was formerly found responsible of sexually assaulting wrote it - though anonymously. The source article at the top of this thread is extremely biased all I'm trying to do here is open up a conversation..

I understand that, but if you read OP's link you would see that the mattress girl also wrote an article about what happened to her, even though it was a lie. I'm not saying this girl is lying but I'm not saying she's not either.

Also I find it unsettlingly convenient that this article was published 4 days ago. Just saying...
 
13432271:Granite_State said:
I understand that, but if you read OP's link you would see that the mattress girl also wrote an article about what happened to her, even though it was a lie. I'm not saying this girl is lying but I'm not saying she's not either.

Also I find it unsettlingly convenient that this article was published 4 days ago. Just saying...

And I don't think OP's article is biased in any way. Yeah it was written by Paul's lawyers but there are undeniable FACTS listed throughout the 40+ pages I read of it suggesting he didn't do it. That's something Emma, the accuser, has very little of (actually none because the only 'proof' she has of it happening is her own drunken account)
 
13432266:L_B said:
because both parties get drunk to have sex, both sides make mistakes, and one half is currently being set up to be punished for the same mistakes while the other isn't.

Huh? How? A guy can just as easily claim rape...

The law applies equally to both sexes.
 
13432293:californiagrown said:
Huh? How? A guy can just as easily claim rape...

The law applies equally to both sexes.

Except the law makers themselves tout this as an advancement for women's safety. And if you honestly believe males will have the same legal standing when making rape accusations, you're delusional.
 
13432314:L_B said:
Except the law makers themselves tout this as an advancement for women's safety. And if you honestly believe males will have the same legal standing when making rape accusations, you're delusional.

You just have a view of what constitutes consensual sex that differs from many, many other people and you want to impose your view of consent upon them.

Yes, a man insistent that he was raped would be treated the same as a women insistent that she was raped. Guaranteed the university would treat it the same- especially in this litigious and scandalous culture we live in.

Less drunk sex from the young people of this world is a good thing any way you look at it haha- less rape, less unwanted pregnancies, less STDs, less moral hangovers lol.
 
13432314:L_B said:
Except the law makers themselves tout this as an advancement for women's safety. And if you honestly believe males will have the same legal standing when making rape accusations, you're delusional.

And FWIW i totally disagree with the law. It opens up all sorts of issues with being drunk- how can a drunk driver be responsible for driving drunk if they dont have the wherewithall to know what they are doing, tresspassing while drunk etc.

But i get where the lawmakers are coming from- making it easier for a woman to prove that the act wasnt completely consensual.
 
13432293:californiagrown said:
Huh? How? A guy can just as easily claim rape...

The law applies equally to both sexes.

False rape is classified as forceful penetration. and a woman sitting on your penis is not considered penetration in the eyes of American law. You clearly from this discussion have no idea what you're talking about, the worst a woman could be charged with sexual assault which is very different from a rape charge, but there is a huge amount of social stigma against male rape victims, and they always go unreported. Mine inculded after i was druged on holloween, a girl gets a slap on the wrist. Just like how female school teachers pray on children and get probation or 30 days of jailtime.
 
13432399:nocturnal said:
False rape is classified as forceful penetration. and a woman sitting on your penis is not considered penetration in the eyes of American law. You clearly from this discussion have no idea what you're talking about, the worst a woman could be charged with sexual assault which is very different from a rape charge, but there is a huge amount of social stigma against male rape victims, and they always go unreported. Mine inculded after i was druged on holloween, a girl gets a slap on the wrist. Just like how female school teachers pray on children and get probation or 30 days of jailtime.

Im not sure what the first part has to do with...

i agree that there is a huge social stigma regarding the female rape of males. Did you report your own rape to the police, and to the campus? Because you really should, if not just for yourself put to help start changing the social stigma that currently exists.
 
13431981:ThaLorax said:
Where's dingosean when you need him?

I am here, and...

This chick is fucking scum and she's the type of fuckhead who gives feminism and social equality a terrible fucking name. Basically giving the 'meninist' buttheads fuel...

Either way, in reality, many girls are sexually assaulted as has been stated, and we shouldn't just ignore that fact because this chick is making a scene out of nothing. Don't see this chick as the normal, guys... she's not. This is just the kind of shithead that carries the same type of bullshit mentality that creates a serial murderer or the like.
 
13432399:nocturnal said:
False rape is classified as forceful penetration. and a woman sitting on your penis is not considered penetration in the eyes of American law. You clearly from this discussion have no idea what you're talking about, the worst a woman could be charged with sexual assault which is very different from a rape charge, but there is a huge amount of social stigma against male rape victims, and they always go unreported. Mine inculded after i was druged on holloween, a girl gets a slap on the wrist. Just like how female school teachers pray on children and get probation or 30 days of jailtime.

If a chick fingers you in the butt without your consent, and continues to do it against your consent, that classifies as forced rape, homie. There are women who have been charged with this (both in assaults on men and women).
 
13432463:DingoSean said:
If a chick fingers you in the butt without your consent, and continues to do it against your consent, that classifies as forced rape, homie. There are women who have been charged with this (both in assaults on men and women).

That's an extreme circumstance, and a ridiculou situation. You think most girls are taking advantage of drunk guys by sticking their finger in their anus? very surprising you seem to support the laws that favor women and how they can't be held responsible for their actions whIle drinking.. wonder what you would have responded with if I changed woman to man and it was a true statement in that last post? using a ridiculous extreme example to support your stance usually means you're losing an argument.

Have fun deleting this thread as well you stupid fuck.
 
13432441:californiagrown said:
Im not sure what the first part has to do with...

i agree that there is a huge social stigma regarding the female rape of males. Did you report your own rape to the police, and to the campus? Because you really should, if not just for yourself put to help start changing the social stigma that currently exists.

No mainly because I don't care, and the worst thing that could have happened in that situation is my friends found out I slept with a disgusting fat girl. I apparently vomited all over her kitchen floor before she took me to bed. I have so much better things to do with my time then go to a police station file a report, or sit in a court room and give testimony. I'm sure for woman the mentality of sex is much different.
 
13432500:nocturnal said:
No mainly because I don't care, and the worst thing that could have happened in that situation is my friends found out I slept with a disgusting fat girl. I apparently vomited all over her kitchen floor before she took me to bed. I have so much better things to do with my time then go to a police station file a report, or sit in a court room and give testimony. I'm sure for woman the mentality of sex is much different.

BUT WHAT ABOUT YOUR TRAUMAS AND EMOTIONS AND ALL THE CONDISHUNS YOU MUST HAVE RAPE CAUGHT?!?!?!
 
I think what that girl did was pretty fucked up. But wholly fucking cock on a stick what the hell was Columbia thinking?

Breached Privacy

Professors discriminated against student

Fucking sponsored a protest agaist student

Put his name in rapist list when wasn't even in country

Ignored the fact that his parents are involved with minorities and a Sudo feminist group

What the fuck?

I hope hell rains down on Columbia

And all the shitheads who support this as empowerment. It's not. It's just fucking Salem syndrome.

God Damn
 
13432441:californiagrown said:
Im not sure what the first part has to do with...

this has just proven you have no credibility and zero understanding of the current rape laws.

currently in your country, rape is described as forced penetration. that means if a woman rapes a man through intercourse, she can't be charged with rape as she didn't penetrate him.
 
13432640:pow_pow~ said:
this has just proven you have no credibility and zero understanding of the current rape laws.

currently in your country, rape is described as forced penetration. that means if a woman rapes a man through intercourse, she can't be charged with rape as she didn't penetrate him.

Pow pows right on this. Legally it is difficult for a male and socially it just kindle isn't a thing that men can be raped, it's ignored.
 
13432640:pow_pow~ said:
this has just proven you have no credibility and zero understanding of the current rape laws.

currently in your country, rape is described as forced penetration. that means if a woman rapes a man through intercourse, she can't be charged with rape as she didn't penetrate him.

Yeah, that's entirely untrue. A woman having sex with a man against his will or without his consent is sexual assault. This has been successfully prosecuted many, many times before.
 
13432696:californiagrown said:
Yeah, that's entirely untrue. A woman having sex with a man against his will or without his consent is sexual assault. This has been successfully prosecuted many, many times before.

Uhhh? You literally just proved yourself wrong. It is SEXUAL ASSAULT....which is totally different than rape. Rape has much harsher punishments and is looked much more down upon....even though a woman could "sexualy assault" and do the exact same thing.
 
13432646:Lonely said:
Pow pows right on this. Legally it is difficult for a male and socially it just kindle isn't a thing that men can be raped, it's ignored.

Did I not word my comment correctly, because I thought that's what I just said?
 
13432787:nocturnal said:
Did I not word my comment correctly, because I thought that's what I just said?

I'm not saying you were completely wrong. Just that there is a legal difference. It just sounded like you were saying they are the same.
 
13432716:Profahoben_212 said:
Uhhh? You literally just proved yourself wrong. It is SEXUAL ASSAULT....which is totally different than rape. Rape has much harsher punishments and is looked much more down upon....even though a woman could "sexualy assault" and do the exact same thing.

.

13432787:nocturnal said:
Did I not word my comment correctly, because I thought that's what I just said?

i agreed with you, we're on the same page.
 
13432497:nocturnal said:
That's an extreme circumstance, and a ridiculou situation. You think most girls are taking advantage of drunk guys by sticking their finger in their anus? very surprising you seem to support the laws that favor women and how they can't be held responsible for their actions whIle drinking.. wonder what you would have responded with if I changed woman to man and it was a true statement in that last post? using a ridiculous extreme example to support your stance usually means you're losing an argument.

This entire thread is ABOUT an extreme circumstance. I'm not even making an argument. I'm stating a fact, dude.

And yeah, I don't know man... rapists are fucked up individuals who do things in the name of power, control, and violence. If a male rapist can anally finger somebody, why couldn't a female rapist anally finger somebody?

You're entire thing in these threads has generally been all about "women rape men too", and then you're not trying to say that rapist women, who are inherently fucked up individuals on the same level as the men - though far far lower in number than men - wouldn't find a way to rape somebody in this manner? Or are you too butthurt (pun intended) to think rationally here?
 
13433351:DingoSean said:
This entire thread is ABOUT an extreme circumstance. I'm not even making an argument. I'm stating a fact, dude.

And yeah, I don't know man... rapists are fucked up individuals who do things in the name of power, control, and violence. If a male rapist can anally finger somebody, why couldn't a female rapist anally finger somebody?

You're entire thing in these threads has generally been all about "women rape men too", and then you're not trying to say that rapist women, who are inherently fucked up individuals on the same level as the men - though far far lower in number than men - wouldn't find a way to rape somebody in this manner? Or are you too butthurt (pun intended) to think rationally here?

Women cannot be charged with rape by having vaginal intercourse with a man what about that are you not getting?

you realize every thread we ever had about women turns into you losing the argument and then you deleting the thread.
 
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