When he doesn't know a camera's rolling, Mitt Romney shows his disdain for half of America.

and I bet all those 'alpha characteristics' and you can't even pick up a chick at a bar without spending $150+ on them first
 
rich people create demand for tradespeople. I dont look down on tradespeople at all.

I do look down on:

-people with no motivation to actually excel at their trade and become artists because they think its easy

-people who work shit jobs because they could have but did not work harder

Whats more useful:

-Someone who can sue your negligent neighbor so you can pay a person to fix the damage to your property and the entire sewage system

or

-someone who can fix a sewage system in a market that has no demand for sewage system fixing (because people can't recover)

No one saying lawyers are better than plumbers. But people who work hard are better than people who do not work hard and more often than not ppl are plumbers because they did not work hard.
 
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I really dont understand what drives people to think they deserve handouts...
 
exactly its not, people just love jump to conclusions about every little thing politicians say. honestly it sounds to me like he's talking to people who work for his campaign about how to sway people to his side. i find nothing wrong here
 
you are so contradictory. "i don't look down on tradespeople" "tradespeople don't work hard."

obviously you've never worked a trade in your fucking life if you think this way, these guys go to school for years just like a fucking lawyer, they get up at 5 a.m. and work 16 hour days just like a fucking lawyer, and build your fucking houses and offices and your entire fucking infrastructure and you just go around classifying them as "betas" like some kind of douchebag on a bodybuilding forum. you keep saying you're not a dick but everything else you say pretty much proves otherwise. the market has no demand for sewage system fixing? what the fuck are you on about? what fucking fantasy world are you living in where tradespeople are not the backbone of modern civilization? i hope your house burns down just so you can tell the firefighters that show up that they don't work as hard as you, you stupid cunt.

and in response to your earlier post, MITT ROMNEY IS A DICK. he has consistently proven it over the course of his entire life. in fact, if he wasn't such a dick, he might've not skipped the war draft and actually got his head blown off years ago so we wouldn't have to tolerate any more of his dickish statements and actions, but, he's a dick, so he did skip the draft, and i just recently watched a video of him tell a gay veteran to his face that he doesn't have rights, the fucking dick. if mitt romney is not a fucking dick then who is?
 
Im not much of a grammar nazi, but it is getting so damn hard to read arguments. I think logic flaw and grammar flaw are starting to go hand in hand.
 
Dude, calm down. Hes saying people who didnt try hard early on in life end up in jobs like plumbing. Aka if I dont try hard while in school and cant go to college, Ill end up in such a job. Hes not saying plumbers dont work hard.
 
I know the OP was going for outrage and intrigue because cameras "weren't rolling," but that all seems to be in line with the party platform, and very reasonable
 
which is just such a fucking backwards ass thing to say, really, because tradespeople do go to college, where the fuck else do you learn how to weld a bridge together? the ignorance spewed about tradespeople here is fucking astounding, you have to go to college for 3 years before you can even become a journeyman in most trades.
 
You do realize that the rich pay much more in percentage taxes than the poor... Romney's the next president, get over it. The next thing we need to do is get Bernanke out of the fed. Another round of QE? What the fuck does he think that'll do? The economy's moving, slowly, but moving. The only thing QE does is shit on the banks.
 
Wtf. He's right. The vast majority of people don't give a shit about personal responsibility. They're just selfish and willing to vote for the candidate that benefits them the most. If his claim that he wants to decrease the size of the government were true, his argument would be very persuasive. Unfortunately, he's actually so similar to Obama that any attempt to differentiate himself from the president is going to require doublespeak.
 
you are so out of touch with life it amazes me. I'm going to leave you with an important rule in life. "Respect any man works no matter what the job is."
 
I complain about the rich not paying taxes. Let me tell you why. Lets say that there is an all around 5% tax hike. What will the rich be losing? Yes they will be losing more money then the poor, but what would that go toward? Their new jet ski, or the trip to the bahamas... They might not be able to do those things, but what will the less fortunate be losing? A meal, a house payment, a car payment. If you want to deny these people a right to live, just so that "trickle down" will happen, then fuck you sir.

Also, trickle down doesnt work.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tax-cuts-rich-dont-spur-151649273.html

 
Haha oh god this explains it all, kids in law school. Inb4 this kid graduates and can't find a job and has massive amounts of debt.
 
your taxes don't really go to poor people. if they did, there would be no poor people. as americans, most of your taxes go to the military, then go back to you in the form of public infrastructure (which apparently doesn't even matter to rich lawyers), and a tiny percentage of them go to helping the less fortunate/welfare.

so really, if you're going to get all fucking mad about paying taxes, then don't elect shit disturbers like Romney, who has already insulted half the planet and is likely to start the third world war if elected, not just because he wants to start a war, which he has already stated (which means he plans to raise your taxes as well, whether he says so or not), but also because half the world is just itching for an excuse to take on america (btw, it's not the 40's anymore).
 
Remind me as to the last time that there was a flat tax. Also, give me some stats on the amount of jobs 'the rich' create for the poor. Are the poor creating jobs? Unemployment is one of the biggest issues our country faces, and strapping down those that can create jobs doesn't seem very intelligent.
 
It cracks me up when one of the 83 black guys in Canada actually knows more than even the self proclaimed 'educated' americans.

Hands down, this thread is retarded, because it's mostly a bunch of kids from western mass or something, who's parents had enough money to send them to boarding schools, and allow them to go on ski trips to Vermont, college being outright paid for with daddy cash, and all the other awesome bullshit you well-off fuckers have been able to receive...

and then you guys are the ones who we're supposed to listen to for advice on how this ship's supposed to be sailed... sure.

get out of here jumeister. You've been retarded ever since you were 14 and you told me how cool you were for growing up in the '13th best city in the country' as if that isn't subjective or irrelevant..
 
There was never a flat tax, it was a hypothetical situation, if the same tax hikes went to each of the classes. And having a group of 100 superrich people with 100 different ideas wont create as many jobs as a hundred thousand semi rich people with a hundred thousand different ideas.
 
Is there something wrong with what mitts saying? he's being very truthfull IMO, if anything i like him more now just from hearing him speaking privately rather than publically, i agreed with him more there than i probably ever have.
 
If you're mad about paying taxes, then don't vote for anyone, and go totally under the table, or self-reliant and live off the land...

Death and Taxes - two constants in life.

Ben Franklin, motherfucker.

 
I mean yeah I'd love to do that, but realistically i can't, and not voting for anyone wont help me with anything, so I vote for who most closely embodies my beliefs and I just would rather have freedom than equality so I'm not really into the amount of taxes imposed on my family and I.
 
well no shit, if you're mad about paying taxes then you're either not going to vote at all, or you're going to vote for whoever lies and tells you you're going to pay less taxes (basically every politician ever). either way, you work a job, you pay taxes. you could elect not to work, or if you're the head of your own company, you could just not pay them, but either way you're pretty much fucked. and anybody who thinks they're going to get a tax cut after everything america is going/has gone through is fucking stupid. honestly, americans complaining about taxes is like the students in quebec whining about their school tuitions (they're already lower tuition fees than the rest of the continent). you pay lower taxes than everybody else on the planet, so just shut the fuck up about it, it's not like you were ever going to get that money anyways, it's not like it ever gets paid to you. your only choice in the matter isn't who you elect, it's whether or not you decide to contribute to society.
 
Ohhh, so realistically, you can't grab yourself by the crotch, and go support yourself all on your own and all...

but you expect others to be able to do that... realistically...

Okay, guy.
 
You told me to not vote and live off the land which is completely unrealistic. I do support myself and so you lost me with where you got that from
 
So you're from Canada and you follow American politics? Is there really nothing else going on up there, because honestly I have no idea about the government in Canada nor do i actually give a fuck. To truly understand the reasoning behind Romney you have to see different parts of the country--I see so many people taking advantage of the current system and come out with more money than a working man. This country is literally fucked because of all the money we give to undeserving people. I understand that a good portion of tax money goes to the military, I'm fine with that. But when I see people literally do nothing with their life and end up living an "easier" life than me, it pisses me off. That said, I'm voting for Romney. Obama will keep giving money to the majority of people that vote for him, which are the people that don't deserve it.
 
So just become rich, then you won't have to pay shit for taxes.

You'll originally be taxed at a much lower rate, on top of which you can shuffle your money around, hide it offshore, exercise tax loopholes and evade probably another 75% of THAT lower rate.

Basically I'm saying if you were rich, you would barely pay taxes at all and you would be able to slip by under the radar when the politicians talk about who isn't paying taxes... We can all just pretend it's poor people! Yay! Being oblivious is so much fun.
 
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yeah, but i figured I would use it. We are still paying a ridiculously low tax rate. Lower than Eisenhower Nixon, Reagan etc. We have it pretty good.
 
There are 8.7 million people in the US collecting disability right now, the highest in American history.

"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), a record 88,921,000 Americans were “not in the labor force” in August. These were Americans who were at least 16 years old, who were not in the military or in an institution such as a prison or a nursing home, and who did not have a job and had not actively sought one in the last four weeks."

"Also in August, according to the BLS, only 63.5 percent of the civilian population (those over 16, who were not in the military or in an institution) participated in the labor force. That was the lowest level of labor force participation in 31 years. "

Yeah.. I agree with what Mitt has to say. Obama has be making it far to easy to collect and has killed any motivation of the unemployed to find a job by just tossing money at them. For every 16 workers there is 1 person collecting disability. That is far too high.
 
read this.

In 1999, President BILL CLINTON signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, it repealed the bulk of the Glass-Steagall Act. Bill Clinton permitted Wall Street firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in affiliated commercial banks.

Simple research informs you that Clinton repelled the Glass Steagall Act in 1999. The Glass Steagall Act was enacted in 1933 because the expansion of commercial banks into securities underwriting was substantial prior to the 1929 stock market crash and the subsequent Depression. In 1930, the Bank of the United States failed, reportedly because of activities of its security affiliates that created artificial conditions in the market! Clinton ensured history repeated itself

oh you wanna hate on bush.. me too kinda. the war shit was dumb and he sounds dumb butttt....

Bush averaged a 5.3% unemployment rate for his eight years in office. Obama has averaged more than 8% in unemployment. Thats 8,448,175 more American Citizens unemployed throughout Obama's 4 yrs than Bush's 8 years.

Anyways have a nice day Dems.

/end thread.
 
I really think it's hilarious how much guys like Romney want you to believe that ALL of the people not paying taxes are from the lowest income bracket when the most wealthy are by far the most guilty of ducking their already meager allotted tax rate. How much do you think a minimum wage earner would actually contribute? A drop in the buscket in comparison to the billions loopholed by the wealthy. I mean come the fuck on.

Also, unemployment isn't necessarily a draw on anyone if it's well within your own "paid in" balance. If you don't know how it works, all that money you pay in for unemployment insurance in every check, that money sits there and waits for you to be laid off. Unfortunately I found this out when I was laid off in I believe '08 or '09. You pay it in, you can absolutely take it back out when times are tough and you can't find a job that will pay your bills. It even tells you your balance. So to anyone NOT on extended benefits, they aren't even "costing" us anything.

I agree that entitlement programs should be dialed back, but the gross misrepresentation of so many factors here just blow my mind. I mean, we're in a fuckin' recession because of republican fiscal irresponsibility spread out over a decade and here we are, Mitt trying to convince us that more military spending, deregulation to major industry AGAIN, more tax breaks for the wealthy and massive cuts to programs that benefit the needy is really what this country needs. I mean, I realize most here were too young to actually remember Clinton's presidency or the awesome financial climate we had then, but I can tell you that the Taliban didn't do this to us, WE did this to us. You can't pull a country out of a recession by attacking the group hardest hit by it. It just doesn't work that way. You need a lower and middle class spending money, there is no trickling down- especially in a business climate that makes it astronomically expensive to have employees whereas automated equipment makes more and costs less. It simply is not in a business's best interests to hire employees at all if it's avoidable and I'm still waiting for someone in government to realize this. Maybe then we can create an environment that encourages growth and a larger workforce, because I can tell you as someone who runs a small business that it isn't anywhere near that right now.

It is kind of hilarious to see people pointing to unemployment statistics as if we weren't in a recession. This isn't a normal year, dumbasses.

 
I don't want to live in a world populated by people like you.

You do realize that win or lose, Romney is hundreds of thousands of times more successful than you will ever be.
 
how can you deny a statistic that plainly shows that supporters of republicans come from states with the highest non-income tax pay rate?

the truth hurts.
 
Yes, because sliding out of the right twat gets you through harvard business and harvard law...

The kid who was saying Romney has half of his intellect is probably in high school and on his way to being a burger flipper.
 
normally i don't comment on political threads on ns because half of the people in here are 14 and cant vote, but it just annoys me how much people shit on Romney. There are millions of people living in this country who pay nothing and get thousands of dollars back from the government. yes there are cases when people really need help, but most of these people are LAZY, yes lazy. I am tired of hearing people that say they would rather be unemployed than work a job they believe is below them. thats what is wrong with America. I think Romney is right, people need to start taking some personal responsibility and start working hard to support themselves. The role of the government should not be to dish out money to people that dont feel like working hard.
 
top 20% of Americans take in around 53% of the nations income the top 20% also pays something like 62% of the taxes........ rich niggies gettin fucked if you ask me.

You ever ask a hedge fun manager how many hours a week he works?? you fuckin douches act like these guys are just gettin free money. I know some people in finance that work on average 13 to 14 hour days. They shouldnt have to pay for anyone else shit if you ask me.
 
just wanted to add how many now hiring signs I see all over the fuckin place.

the truth is americans are becoming lazy especially the generation before ours, our generation and the ones after. McDonalds is always hiring but thats not good enough for people that dont have a job. FUCK YOU, work at McDonalds get paid and maybe take half the welfare you get.
 
I'm guessing you're unfamiliar with the story of a little boy named George W Bush, who not only skated through Ivy league on shit grades because of his father, he was allwed to duck military service AND bankrupt a few businesses before he fucking raped this country.

So yeah. Ivy League education =/= common sense OR any sense of understanding to the rest of the country that didn't slide out of the right twat.

I agree that he had to work to get where he is, but let's not pretend that he was a real Obama-level rags to success story or something. THAT is real coming up. South side of Chicago to the White House? Please Romney. The guy was born into a life or wealth and privelege, ending your life story anywhere but in a state of wealth and privelege is just retarded. Crediting him as some kind of real breakout success is kind of retarded.
 
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