what? when did i say that? if you read carefully, i am talking about morals above the law. as you have kindly pointed out many times our laws, the way they are written, make it completely okay to accidentally, or even not accidentally, kill them. of course there is a big difference between killing someone on purpose and killing them accidentally. i hope you can see it.
Obama bypassing congress to make sricter gun laws....
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Gods_Father
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so you don't think it's ok to accidently kill an intruder who is threatening your well-being? then my statement stands 100% true. if i defended my property by hitting a thief with a hammer and he accidently died, i would go to jail for murder lol.
Gods_Father
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oh by the way.....those laws do not make it ok to kill on purpose. god damn retard, learn your fucking rights.
yeah, i completely agree with that.
apparently, just because i don't think you should automatically shoot anyone who comes into your home it means i think people should let robbers steal whatever they want from them without doing anything. i miss the days where people could disagree on things without resorting to personally insulting each other
apparently, just because i don't think you should automatically shoot anyone who comes into your home it means i think people should let robbers steal whatever they want from them without doing anything. i miss the days where people could disagree on things without resorting to personally insulting each other
Gods_Father
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you said you would use a knife or baseball bat to defend against a gunman.
Gods_Father
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what did i take out of context wtf lol? i asked, what would you use to defend yourself after the guard dog is shot?
you replied with, a bat a knife call 911 or just leave.
???
when i brought this up, you claimed you wrote that on accident hahahahaha.
you replied with, a bat a knife call 911 or just leave.
???
when i brought this up, you claimed you wrote that on accident hahahahaha.
I then proceeded to tell you I was talking about being robbed with a person without a Gun. That was a 20 page thread and I was posting every five minutes. I've been explained to you in three other threads that I'm sorry For not saying that was for a person without a gun. Then proceeded to tell you you are correct I would not protect myself with a knife or bat against the person with the gun. I also then proceeded to tell you that I agree there are times to use guns while being robed. But there are also times that they are misused and people end up dying because of it. Now I'm sure I'll read you quoting me again on the thread that pops up about guns. Because I believe this is the second or third time I'm telling you this.
El_Barto.
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thats totally fine. If somebody comes in your house you can handle it however you want. You can even make em dinner if you please.
I will probably shoot them in the chest with buckshot.
What works for me might not work for you. Whats awesome is that we are allowed to choose different paths.
I will probably shoot them in the chest with buckshot.
What works for me might not work for you. Whats awesome is that we are allowed to choose different paths.
Wis_Skier_23
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Really? Looks like it worked just fine for this guy. We have a problem with our society not guns. Why he was released is beyond me.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/justice/new-york-firefighters-shooter/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/justice/new-york-firefighters-shooter/index.html
PJS.
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This is one of the most moronic things I've read on the internet.
There is a massive fucking difference between something that is used to kill someone, and something is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED, BUILT AND TESTED TO FUCKING KILL SOMEONE.
When was the last time you heard of a mass murder that was committed using a hammer? You can't just walk into a mall with a hammer and kill 20 people and wound who knows how many more, like you can with an assault weapon.
There is a massive fucking difference between something that is used to kill someone, and something is SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED, BUILT AND TESTED TO FUCKING KILL SOMEONE.
When was the last time you heard of a mass murder that was committed using a hammer? You can't just walk into a mall with a hammer and kill 20 people and wound who knows how many more, like you can with an assault weapon.
March 2010
Main article: Nanping school massacre
On March 23, 2010, Zheng Minsheng (郑民生)[2] 41, murdered eight children with a knife in an elementary school in Nanping,[3] Fujian province;[4] The attack was widely reported in Chinese media (called 南平实验小学重大凶杀案),[2] sparking fears of copycat crimes.[4] Following a quick trial, Zheng Minsheng was executed about one month later on April 28.[3]
[edit]April 2010
Just a few hours after the execution of Zheng Minsheng in neighboring Fujian Province,[5] in Leizhou,[6] Guangdong another knife-wielding man named Chen Kangbing, 33 (陈康炳)[7] at Hongfu Primary School wounded 16 students and a teacher.[4] Chen Kangbing had been a teacher at a different primary school in Leizhou;[7] he was sentenced to death by a court in Zhanjiang in June.[8]
On April 29 in Taixing,[3] Jiangsu, 47-year-old Xu Yuyuan went to Zhongxin Kindergarten[9] and stabbed 28 students, two teachers and one security guard;[4] most of the Taixing students were 4 years old.[10]
On April 30, Wang Yonglai used a hammer to cause head injury to preschool children in Weifang,[3] Shandong, then used gasoline to commit suicide by self-immolation.[4]
[edit]May 2010
An attacker named Wu Huanming (吴环明), 48, killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 other persons with a cleaver at a kindergarten in Hanzhong, Shaanxi on May 12, 2010;[3] early reports were removed from the internet in China, for fear that mass coverage of such violence can provoke copycat attacks.[3][11] The attacker later committed suicide at his house; he was the landlord of the school,[12] Shengshui Temple private kindergarten, and had been involved in an ongoing dispute with the school administrator about when the school would move out of the building.[12]
On May 18, 2010 at Hainan Institute of Science and Technology (海南科技职业学院), a vocational college in Haikou, Hainan, more than 10 men[13] charged into a dormitory wielding knives around 2:30 am;[14] after attacking the security guard and disabling security cameras, 9 students were injured, 1 seriously.[14] The local men attacked the dorm in an act of revenge and retaliation against college students following conflict the previous day at an off-campus food stall in which 4 students were injured, for a total of 13.[15]
[edit]August 2010
On 4 August 2010, 26-year-old Fang Jiantang (方建堂) slashed more than 20 children and staff with a 60 cm knife, killing 3 children and 1 teacher, at a kindergarten in Zibo, Shandong province. Of the injured, 3 other children and 4 teachers were taken to the hospital. After being caught Fang confessed to the crime; his motive is not yet known.[16]
[edit]August 2011
Eight children, all aged four or five,[17] were hurt in Minhang District, Shanghai when an employee at a child-care centre for migrant workers slashed them with a box-cutter.[18]
[edit]September 2011
In September 2011, a young girl and three adults taking their children to nursery school were killed in Gongyi,[19] Henan by 30-year-old Wang Hongbin with an axe.[20] Another child and an adult were seriously wounded but survived.[21] The suspect is a local farmer who is suspected of being mentally ill.[22]
[edit]December 2012
Main article: Chenpeng Village Primary School stabbing
On 14 December 2012, a 36 year-old villager in the village of Chenpeng, Henan Province, stabbed 23 children and an elderly woman at the village's primary school as children were arriving for classes.[23] The attacker was restrained at the school, and later arrested.[24] All of the victims survived and were treated at three hospitals, though some were reportedly seriously injured, with fingers or ears cut off, and had to be transferred to larger hospitals for specialized care.[25]
Main article: Nanping school massacre
On March 23, 2010, Zheng Minsheng (郑民生)[2] 41, murdered eight children with a knife in an elementary school in Nanping,[3] Fujian province;[4] The attack was widely reported in Chinese media (called 南平实验小学重大凶杀案),[2] sparking fears of copycat crimes.[4] Following a quick trial, Zheng Minsheng was executed about one month later on April 28.[3]
[edit]April 2010
Just a few hours after the execution of Zheng Minsheng in neighboring Fujian Province,[5] in Leizhou,[6] Guangdong another knife-wielding man named Chen Kangbing, 33 (陈康炳)[7] at Hongfu Primary School wounded 16 students and a teacher.[4] Chen Kangbing had been a teacher at a different primary school in Leizhou;[7] he was sentenced to death by a court in Zhanjiang in June.[8]
On April 29 in Taixing,[3] Jiangsu, 47-year-old Xu Yuyuan went to Zhongxin Kindergarten[9] and stabbed 28 students, two teachers and one security guard;[4] most of the Taixing students were 4 years old.[10]
On April 30, Wang Yonglai used a hammer to cause head injury to preschool children in Weifang,[3] Shandong, then used gasoline to commit suicide by self-immolation.[4]
[edit]May 2010
An attacker named Wu Huanming (吴环明), 48, killed seven children and two adults and injured 11 other persons with a cleaver at a kindergarten in Hanzhong, Shaanxi on May 12, 2010;[3] early reports were removed from the internet in China, for fear that mass coverage of such violence can provoke copycat attacks.[3][11] The attacker later committed suicide at his house; he was the landlord of the school,[12] Shengshui Temple private kindergarten, and had been involved in an ongoing dispute with the school administrator about when the school would move out of the building.[12]
On May 18, 2010 at Hainan Institute of Science and Technology (海南科技职业学院), a vocational college in Haikou, Hainan, more than 10 men[13] charged into a dormitory wielding knives around 2:30 am;[14] after attacking the security guard and disabling security cameras, 9 students were injured, 1 seriously.[14] The local men attacked the dorm in an act of revenge and retaliation against college students following conflict the previous day at an off-campus food stall in which 4 students were injured, for a total of 13.[15]
[edit]August 2010
On 4 August 2010, 26-year-old Fang Jiantang (方建堂) slashed more than 20 children and staff with a 60 cm knife, killing 3 children and 1 teacher, at a kindergarten in Zibo, Shandong province. Of the injured, 3 other children and 4 teachers were taken to the hospital. After being caught Fang confessed to the crime; his motive is not yet known.[16]
[edit]August 2011
Eight children, all aged four or five,[17] were hurt in Minhang District, Shanghai when an employee at a child-care centre for migrant workers slashed them with a box-cutter.[18]
[edit]September 2011
In September 2011, a young girl and three adults taking their children to nursery school were killed in Gongyi,[19] Henan by 30-year-old Wang Hongbin with an axe.[20] Another child and an adult were seriously wounded but survived.[21] The suspect is a local farmer who is suspected of being mentally ill.[22]
[edit]December 2012
Main article: Chenpeng Village Primary School stabbing
On 14 December 2012, a 36 year-old villager in the village of Chenpeng, Henan Province, stabbed 23 children and an elderly woman at the village's primary school as children were arriving for classes.[23] The attacker was restrained at the school, and later arrested.[24] All of the victims survived and were treated at three hospitals, though some were reportedly seriously injured, with fingers or ears cut off, and had to be transferred to larger hospitals for specialized care.[25]
idk nigga lol, u try killin a squirmin lil chinese boy wit a box cutter
assault weapons ban doesn't make much sense as more than a knee jerk reaction to the tragedy. You'd see an incredibly small reduction, if any from that. People keep forgetting that assault weapons represent a MINISCULE amount of deaths when looking at total gun deaths. 400 and something out of like, 11000?
assault weapons ban doesn't make much sense as more than a knee jerk reaction to the tragedy. You'd see an incredibly small reduction, if any from that. People keep forgetting that assault weapons represent a MINISCULE amount of deaths when looking at total gun deaths. 400 and something out of like, 11000?
Wis_Skier_23
Active member
The point is not that a hammer was designed to kill people, it is the fact that if people have evil in their intent that it doesn't take a gun to be able to kill people. Why do you blame the weapon and not the one holding the weapon? I don't know what is more scary in America, the fact that there are so many people who want to commit such horrible acts of violence, or the fact that when they do occur people blame the weapon not the user.
Wis_Skier_23
Active member
Is that really going to make you sleep well at night knowing you took away assault rifles which has been proven to have no effect on reducing gun crime? Still have 11,000 other gun crimes but now that Assault Weapons are gone I can rest assured, we are safer now in America. LOLZZ
then maybe the solution isn't to ban them all together, but just make them harder to get? maybe you find it acceptable that the v. tech shooting, aurora, and now this were done with legally purchased weapons, but i don't. at the very least we should have strict enough laws to stop people who might be dangerous from buying guns legally. obviously you can't regulate criminals, and they will do what they do, but that doesn't mean we should make it possible for people who might commit mass shootings to legally get guns they should. at least have to buy them on the black market
Wis_Skier_23
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what is the right solution then to make guns harder to acquire? How are you going to be able to accurately decide who is a mass murderer from an innocent civilian?
Wis_Skier_23
Active member
more in depth checks? in what areas because they already have indepth background checks which deterred Adam Lanza from purchasing an AR-15 so he resorted to stealing one from a legal owner.
didn't stop the aurora shooter or virginia tech shooter from getting guns legally.
and yeah, his mom. its not like he broke into someone else's house and stole it, it was sitting right in his own home. she shouldn't have been able to buy/own a gun legally because she lived with someone who was potentially dangerous
and yeah, his mom. its not like he broke into someone else's house and stole it, it was sitting right in his own home. she shouldn't have been able to buy/own a gun legally because she lived with someone who was potentially dangerous
Wis_Skier_23
Active member
so what in your Utopian background check is going to alert the ATF about these possible mass murderers?
Gods_Father
Active member
i am well aware of your apologies. what i find funny is when i asked you what you would do in that situation with a gunman you had such stellar reading comprehension that you thought i meant an unarmed thief? hahahahah
you also told me that if you had a driving altercation and somebody pulled a gun on you, you would flee. so when would you ever use a gun for self defense and what did i take out of context?
you also told me that if you had a driving altercation and somebody pulled a gun on you, you would flee. so when would you ever use a gun for self defense and what did i take out of context?