Obama bypassing congress to make sricter gun laws....

Pay closer attention, we actually get nothing done. Our politics are so fucked, and there is nothing anyone can do to change it.
 
The Empire state is fucked

The most strict gun laws in all of the union if I'm not mistaken.

We get fucking assholes like Andrew Cuomo being like NEVER AGAAAAINNNNNN YEEAAAAA. Sounding like some fucking psychotic dictator yelling about taking away guns.
 
hahahahahahhaa! i hate to break it to you, but knowing your rights has nothing to do with religion. if you can't even learn your rights then there's a good chance you can't even do algebra.
 
no, having the cognitive capacity to learn them go hand in hand though.

by the way, you are talking about legal rights, i'm talking about natural rights. if you don't know the difference then there really is a good chance you don't know how to do algebra lol.
 
Well the person you're arguing with is not. He obviously said multiple times God-given right, And he doesn't know if it's a God-given right because doesn't read the Bible. I don't understand how you're not picking up on that.
 
...what? we were talking about self-defense being a god-given right. i didn't know it was a god-given right because i don't study the bible or religion. why does that indicate that i don't know my legal rights?
 
the person i'm arguing with is not what? and who am i even arguing with? lol english please, delusional kid. watts already admitted to not knowing his rights, reading the bible has nothing to do with knowing your natural rights.

how's the algebra coming along?
 
are you joking?........you asked me to explain to you what a god-given right means hahahahahaha.

you don't even need to know that religion or the bible exists to know your natural rights. lol poor dumb bastards.

btw i never said that you don't know your legal rights.

 
oh. you're talking about natural rights. again, i don't know what you mean by "natural rights." as far as i can tell it's just an arbitrary list of things you have made up that you personally think all people deserve to have and should know about. don't you see how vague of a term "natural rights" is? don't you see how different people could have different ideas of what constitutes a "natural right?" for example, say you think education and health care are "natural rights" and i don't. how do we determine who is correct and who is incorrect? it seems to be based solely on opinion. so, yeah, i guess you're right, sorry that i don't know the list you keep in your head of what you consider to be "natural rights." i guess that makes me an idiot.
 
i already explained to you that god-given rights and natural rights are the exact same thing. you clearly aren't familiar with your rights if it is necessary for you to ask what god-given/natural right is lol. this is not about opinion, kid. it is called morality. are you like 16 years old? keep up the good work, troll.

and yes, unless you are very young or have a mental disability, anybody who does not know their rights could consider themself to be an idiot.
 
so it's just morality? you do know different people have different sets of morals, right? okay, i'll ask again. if one person considers health care to be a natural right and another person doesn't, who is correct? whose list of natural rights is wrong and whose is right?
 
your opinion is that morality is "a list inside your head" which varies between individuals...........which is fine, but the reality of morality is that it is not in your mind, it is in your heart.

you create those differences by fabricating right + wrong.
 
what differences are you referring to when you say "those differences?"

and, right, that's what i was saying. so, again, one person's heart says health care is a natural right, another person's says it isn't. how do you definitively determine who is right and who is wrong?
 
the same ones you used as examples. that is not their heart asking, it is their mind. you're too young lol. morals differ from political doctrine. how do you know there is definitively right/wrong?
 
you don't. you can't. that's my point. by saying there is a definitive list of "natural rights" you are assuming there is definitively right and wrong, right? my point is different people have different ideas of right and wrong, so what may seem like a natural right to you, may not seem so to me. in which case how do you determine who is correct? you seem to think there is an absolute list of natural rights everyone should just innately know. so i'm asking, how is it that you determine whose list of natural rights is correct and whose is incorrect?
 
"you are talking about legal rights, i'm talking about natural rights."

he was "not" talking about either one of those rights you stated. I'm really starting to think you cant read.
 
ah yes, too young. how do you know there is definitively correct/incorrect? i never even said there is a definitive list of natural rights lol......i can see right through you, you don't believe in equality.

this will be much easier for you:

if a bear was going to attack you and hiding or fleeing was not a possible option, would you defend yourself? and if your answer is yes, then how did you innately come up with that solution?

 
what? how does this have anything to do with equality? i understand the concept of "natural rights," but yours and mine may be different, that's why i was asking what you meant. glad we could clear this up.

yeah, i'd defend myself. cause i don't want to die.
 
and i quote "what? we were talking about self-defense being a god-given right. i didn't know it was a god-given right because i don't study the bible or religion. why does that indicate that i don't know my legal rights?"
 
lol because you don't believe that people have equal morality. don't pretend you "understand the concept of natural rights", you had to ask me to explain what it meant hahahaha wow you have some balls.

so why didn't you fully answer the question? that explains why you would defend yourself......but how did you innately come up with that solution???
 
"what? we were talking about self-defense being a god-given right. i didn't know it was a god-given right because i don't study the bible or religion. why does that indicate that i don't know my legal rights?"

so you are agreeing with me now? lol ok.
 
of course people don't have equal morality. you think someone like hitler who thought it was okay to wipe an entire religion off the face of the earth was as moral as someone who didn't think that? maybe i just don't understand you again. and, no, i asked because i wasn't sure what you meant specifically, not because i didn't understand the concept.

i feel like my desire to live is pretty innate...that's why i would defend myself. because i have an innate desire not to die, or, if you will, to live.
 
maybe we all have equal morality but some people choose to follow different morals....

quit the lying though lol, "why is self defense a "god-given right?" what does that even mean?"

"maybe i just don't understand you again." you're just too young right now.

you have an innate desire to live, yes, but you conveniently forgot to add that you also have rights.....
 
when did i ever "get legal rights" out of his post? he's the one that said "legal rights" lol i was talking about natural rights. thanks for the help.
 
yeah, that's one interpretation. it still seems like if you choose to follow morals that say killing is okay you are not as good morally as someone who chooses not to follow such morals.

sorry. i didn't know god-given rights are the exact same as natural rights. again, i'm not religious. i don't know what exactly people mean when they say god-given rights. sorry.

what does my innate desire to live have to do with rights?
 
lollllllllll no shit, so you are 16 years old?

if you don't know what something is then how do you make the claim that you "understand" it lol? again, religion has nothing to do with this, why do you keep mentioning your faith lol?

"what does my innate desire to live have to do with rights?"

hopefully you are taught this before you graduate, ask your teacher after class b/c i can't keep laughing like this. have a nice day.
 
so then if you agree that someone who decides that killing is okay is worse than someone who decides killing isn't okay then doesn't it follow that people have different levels of morality?

i'm not religious. i don't know what people are referring to when they say "god-given" right. as in i don't know if they mean "natural rights," or something else. i wasn't sure if by "god-given" rights you were referring to "natural rights" or something else. that's why i asked what you meant by "god-given" rights. i understand what "natural rights" are.

any chance you can just explain? as you can hopefully tell by now i have a hard time correctly interpreting what you are trying to say.
 
As a new yorker has anyone seen the new laws passed?...magazine maximums have been decreased to 7 shots from 10, assult rifles consistute one change to a rife, basically if i put a pistol grip on my 10-22 its considered a asult rifle, most guns pre 1800 have bayanet add ons's which makes a wepon an assult rifle now, not sure how this will reduce crime...hahah, but a 7 shot mag is redicultious is my opinion, the things i would do to have a 25-30 round max in my state would be amazing. I'm sure governer cuomo's security guys will have only 7 shots each in their guns...right
 
in other words you asked what do rights have to do with your life........get real kid, go ask your teacher if you are that far behind.
 
i said i would defend myself against the bear because of my innate desire to live. you said that was not enough. you said it also had to do with rights. what exactly do you mean by this?
 
Personally I think this is good. I'm glad to see the president nutting up and getting shit done. There should be stricter gun control laws anyway. There's no reason that a civilian should be able to own an assault rifle.
 
oh fuck, yet another retard blindly following what the media tells them. please hold your opinion until you educate yourself on the subject.

 
If you don't want to own one, then don't. But don't infringe upon my right to. You are a fool, the only thing gun control effects is law abiding citizens, criminals and mass murderers don't follow them anyways.
 
i know absolutely nobody cares, but this is exactly what happened to poland in the late 18th century and considered by historians the main reason why they were systematically disassembled by russia, prussia (germany), and Austria

They were indecisive, had too many checks and balances, and got overrun.
 
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