NYE attacks in Cologne, Germany

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This topic is being discussed in another thread, but I think it needs its own thread given the seriousness of the situation. Similar attacks have occurred in various other German cities as well.


 
God bless Donald Trump for having the balls to openly want to keep this trash out of AMerica.

Merkel is a global menace WAY worse than Hitler if you don't agree you have no respect for women and think sharia law is an appropriate way to live and you are a piece of shit.

Political correctness is frightening we are not all equal you fucks Western civilization and culture has been developed over centuries and taken time to get to where it is now (with many bumps/mistakes along the way) the muslims nations are a millennium behind the United States with the way they think women should live and cover themselves up.

Again you are scum and deserve to be spat on if you defend that trash or think letting Syrian migrants in is OK or make excuses for radical islam again you are trash fuck you I was raised by a single mother and respect women I do not condone this shit and as I said merkel is a bad intentioned Hitler at least Hitler loved the German people and wanted them to prevail over their neighbors (and was a dick wanting to enslave the Russians and all that but again he was looking out for his people.)
 
13598385:PeppermillReno said:
God bless Donald Trump for having the balls to openly want to keep this trash out of AMerica.

Merkel is a global menace WAY worse than Hitler if you don't agree you have no respect for women and think sharia law is an appropriate way to live and you are a piece of shit.

Political correctness is frightening we are not all equal you fucks Western civilization and culture has been developed over centuries and taken time to get to where it is now (with many bumps/mistakes along the way) the muslims nations are a millennium behind the United States with the way they think women should live and cover themselves up.

Again you are scum and deserve to be spat on if you defend that trash or think letting Syrian migrants in is OK or make excuses for radical islam again you are trash fuck you I was raised by a single mother and respect women I do not condone this shit and as I said merkel is a bad intentioned Hitler at least Hitler loved the German people and wanted them to prevail over their neighbors (and was a dick wanting to enslave the Russians and all that but again he was looking out for his people.)

Believe me when I say that at least 50% of your post is utter bullshit that I am being incredibly generous. Regardless of how this turns out, there is not a chance that Merkel is worse than Hitler. Until she sends as many people to the furnace, gas chamber, concentration camps as he did, don't even go there. It makes you look like a complete fool.

Letting in 10,000 Syrian refugees who have been vetted for 2 years into the USA resembles NOTHING to what is going on in Europe right now. First off the people who will be let into the USA are actual refugees, whereas in Europe it is a mix between refugees and random immigrants from all over Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Europe is an absolute cluster fuck in this regard- they don't know who is coming in and they are not being vetted because they cannot perform background checks on the million-plus people coming across the German border. Second, not one single refugee coming into the USA gets to pick their country of destination- the USA was randomly assigned by the refugee agency, not picked by the refugee. You should be more fearful of people coming in on student visas than by the refugees. These refugees (who are fleeing the terrorists by the way) should be seen as people whom we should embrace, welcome, and share our liberal ideas of freedom with. These are probably the most important Muslims to get on our side at the moment.

Donald Trump is a racist, a bigot, and a homophobe who encourages people to be violent against those who disagree with him. That is not America. That is Iran. That is Syria. And that is bullshit.
 
13598411:onenerdykid said:
Believe me when I say that at least 50% of your post is utter bullshit that I am being incredibly generous. Regardless of how this turns out, there is not a chance that Merkel is worse than Hitler. Until she sends as many people to the furnace, gas chamber, concentration camps as he did, don't even go there. It makes you look like a complete fool.

Letting in 10,000 Syrian refugees who have been vetted for 2 years into the USA resembles NOTHING to what is going on in Europe right now. First off the people who will be let into the USA are actual refugees, whereas in Europe it is a mix between refugees and random immigrants from all over Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Europe is an absolute cluster fuck in this regard- they don't know who is coming in and they are not being vetted because they cannot perform background checks on the million-plus people coming across the German border. Second, not one single refugee coming into the USA gets to pick their country of destination- the USA was randomly assigned by the refugee agency, not picked by the refugee. You should be more fearful of people coming in on student visas than by the refugees. These refugees (who are fleeing the terrorists by the way) should be seen as people whom we should embrace, welcome, and share our liberal ideas of freedom with. These are probably the most important Muslims to get on our side at the moment.

Donald Trump is a racist, a bigot, and a homophobe who encourages people to be violent against those who disagree with him. That is not America. That is Iran. That is Syria. And that is bullshit.

Well I at least respect this response because you don't ignore the muslim migrant shitstorm in Europe.

We don't need them, we don't want them, these refugees bring nothing to the table and contribute nothing to us so they can fuck off way I see it. Why should it be our problem? Maybe if Bush didn't start that war for no reason and decapitate Iraq the middle east wouldn't be this fucked up?

Why should immigrants have the right to come to America if they don't get in through conventional means? Fuck them we don't want you.
 
Honestly don't even care to know what happened. Inb4 everyone jerks off to the deetz, or the news blasts it for coverage and everyone get's scared.
 
13598411:onenerdykid said:
Letting in 10,000 Syrian refugees who have been vetted for 2 years into the USA resembles NOTHING to what is going on in Europe right now. First off the people who will be let into the USA are actual refugees, whereas in Europe it is a mix between refugees and random immigrants from all over Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Europe is an absolute cluster fuck in this regard- they don't know who is coming in and they are not being vetted because they cannot perform background checks on the million-plus people coming across the German border. Second, not one single refugee coming into the USA gets to pick their country of destination- the USA was randomly assigned by the refugee agency, not picked by the refugee. You should be more fearful of people coming in on student visas than by the refugees. These refugees (who are fleeing the terrorists by the way) should be seen as people whom we should embrace, welcome, and share our liberal ideas of freedom with. These are probably the most important Muslims to get on our side at the moment.

The question I have is, how can you be so certain of the vetting process?

Just today, two men that came in as "refugees" have been arrested on terrorism charges for being part of ISIS, and planning to provide aid to ISIS and other terrorist organizations. Each one came in as a "refugee" and were arrested in Houston, Sacramento, as well as three relatives who were arrested in Milwaukee.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article53593420.html
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...arrests-in-Houston-and-California-6744559.php
http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/The-Latest-3-relatives-of-suspect-arrested-in-6744552.php
 
13598470:Borty said:
Honestly don't even care to know what happened. Inb4 everyone jerks off to the deetz, or the news blasts it for coverage and everyone get's scared.

They're not long videos, but I'm sure you had better things to do anyway.

If you have any sisters or female relatives that you care about, then you probably should care.
 
13598675:Campeador said:
They're not long videos, but I'm sure you had better things to do anyway.

If you have any sisters or female relatives that you care about, then you probably should care.

Yeah because they probably won't hear about it if it's on national new in OTHER countries. If they're in Germany, they definitely won't hear about it. If they're on facebook they for sure won't hear about it.

It has nothing to do with having better things to do or not. There is no point in me watching it. But sure, share it on facebook and tag all your female friends so you can feel like you did something.
 
13598677:Borty said:
Yeah because they probably won't hear about it if it's on national new in OTHER countries. If they're in Germany, they definitely won't hear about it. If they're on facebook they for sure won't hear about it.

It has nothing to do with having better things to do or not. There is no point in me watching it. But sure, share it on facebook and tag all your female friends so you can feel like you did something.

The issue here is that the media and authorities attempted to cover up all these attacks. They've also lied through their teeth about the extent of it.

Why would you feel there is no point in watching? What is worthy of knowing about then in your view?
 
13598414:PeppermillReno said:
We don't need them, we don't want them, these refugees bring nothing to the table and contribute nothing to us so they can fuck off way I see it.

Man that is a totally unamerican thing to say. Our county's founding principles say the opposite thing.
 
13598689:californiagrown said:
Man that is a totally unamerican thing to say. Our county's founding principles say the opposite thing.

I wasn't talking about immigrants in general I was talking about these muslim opportunist economic migrants who are using the situation in Syria as their opportunity to illegally immigrate to the US/Europe. In particular the single men who have expensive cell phones and watches and are violent which seems to be the majority of them.
 
13598674:Campeador said:
The question I have is, how can you be so certain of the vetting process?

I didn't want to give the impression that I think it is a perfect/certain vetting process, but only that at least there is one in place that takes 2 years to get through, unlike the debacle taking place in Europe that is essentially an open border policy. Will there be bad people that weasel their way through our vetting process? I am sure of it. But are they being watched like hawks at the moment? Yes, and the articles you posted prove it.

The big problem that I have is that while I find the doctrine of Islam to be a huge collection of bad ideas, it does not mean that every single Muslim believes it literally and completely. Just as I think the Holy Bible is a huge collection of bad ideas, it does not mean that every single Christian believes it literally and completely. As long as our constitution guarantees the right of people to freedom of religion, it is entirely unconstitutional to deny someone based on their religion alone, and I emphasize the "alone" part.

No human is without dignity and as such we have a direct moral duty to help other human beings who are in need because if we imagine ourselves in a similar situation (which is totally plausible) we would want the same done for us. If our country became ravaged by war and everything we knew was destroyed and overrun by terrorists, it would completely suck if Canada (for example) denied to help us in our time of need. We should extend our aid to such people because we would want it done for ourselves. To deny that would represent a moral failure, especially by Christian standards.

Obviously, we cannot let just anyone in and that is why the vetting process takes 2 years to complete. It is not perfect, but it is thorough and I'm sure it can be improved upon.

One last point- it is interesting to note that some of the Middle Eastern countries (such as Saudi Arabia) are not taking any Syrian refugees at all. Talk about bullshit.
 
13598728:PeppermillReno said:
I wasn't talking about immigrants in general I was talking about these muslim opportunist economic migrants who are using the situation in Syria as their opportunity to illegally immigrate to the US/Europe. In particular the single men who have expensive cell phones and watches and are violent which seems to be the majority of them.

From the beginning of America immigrant "opportunists" have been using America to escape economic hardship, famine, and persecution - the Irish, Italians, Chinese, Jews, etc. And there have always been racist nationalists that have called for a ban on those immigrants.

And now you have become one of the racist nationalists calling for a stop to the migrants seeking to escape a war and the associated famine. The vast majority are not the "young male" stereotype you have been so misinformed about -http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/stretching-facts-on-syrian-refugees/

You know what's more dangerous than being uninformed? Being misinformed. Because you stop looking for the truth.
 
The biggest problem I see with muslim immigrants is that they don't want to abandon the culture that produced all the hatred. If they want to leave their country, that's fine, but resisting our culture and trying to hold onto theirs is a huge mistake and completely counterproductive. i had an Irania roommate who is A Hamas sympathizer. He use to talk so much shit about America while simultaneously being subsidized by our government for his education. imo the majority of Muslims do not like our country or us. This dudes mom lived with us for a month and she literally would not share a room with me. She'd rather let her food burn then share a kitchen with me. Muslim immigrants do not enjoy our company. They may want refuge from their horrible countries but they certainly don't want to be Americans.
 
13598840:PCPRINCIPAL said:
The biggest problem I see with muslim immigrants is that they don't want to abandon the culture that produced all the hatred. If they want to leave their country, that's fine, but resisting our culture and trying to hold onto theirs is a huge mistake and completely counterproductive. i had an Irania roommate who is A Hamas sympathizer. He use to talk so much shit about America while simultaneously being subsidized by our government for his education. imo the majority of Muslims do not like our country or us. This dudes mom lived with us for a month and she literally would not share a room with me. She'd rather let her food burn then share a kitchen with me. Muslim immigrants do not enjoy our company. They may want refuge from their horrible countries but they certainly don't want to be Americans.

Sweet generalization based off a lone experience.

Ya'll forget that America is a melting pot. Americans don't have a historical culture- its a mish-mash from immigrant cultures around the world.

I've been around a lot of folks from a lot of different walks of life in this world and I've noticed that good people and bad people exist in equal ratios in all cultures. Just because you disagree with another's values doesn't mean you have the right to not treat them respectfully- and that goes both ways. Then again, the issue you had with the mother was likely a cultural thing, ie. Language barrier, man-woman proximity issues, shyness, etc. I wouldn't be so quick to put it down to she hates the white devil.
 
No she literally wouldn't stay in the same room as me. its not a generalization. He is a post grad student at the U and he used to have LOTS of people over. They were very rude to me and wouldn't even acknowledge that my gf existed, because I was living in "HIS" apartment, they felt less alienated and therefore treated me differently. The Muslims who come here to be American are very very few.

claiming that this country doesn't have history and culture is really fucking ignorant. Yeah our ancestors were immigrants, but we've been bound together by a nation. My ancestors date back to 2 decades after the revolutionary war. My family has served in every war this country has fought. There is a very rich history and culture in this country. Just because you are unaware doesnt mean its not there. New immigrants must educated themselves on the history of this country or they will never understand why things are the way they are. Same goes for people born here.

pilgrims, pioneers, industry men, hard working immigrants, the land of opportunity, land of the free, home to capitalism, home of the brave etc...

The majority of Muslims are inherently ethnocentric due to the inclusiveness of the religion they grew up knowing.

Iranians don't like Americans. Saudis don't like Americans. Palestinians Don't like Americans.

for the record an immigrant is not a refugee. One was forced here, one was not.
 
13598735:onenerdykid said:
No human is without dignity and as such we have a direct moral duty to help other human beings who are in need because if we imagine ourselves in a similar situation (which is totally plausible) we would want the same done for us. If our country became ravaged by war and everything we knew was destroyed and overrun by terrorists, it would completely suck if Canada (for example) denied to help us in our time of need. We should extend our aid to such people because we would want it done for ourselves.

Correct me if Im wrong but isnt the "Canada" of Syria, meaning the gulf nations, not accepting refuges in? Even when places like Saudi Arabi has tons of tents and all that to house them? It bothers me that the countries with shared cultures and language dont want them.
 
Canada has less resources than California. If terrorist have hypothetically overran the US I'm sure canada would be fucked too.
 
13598903:theBearJew said:
Correct me if Im wrong but isnt the "Canada" of Syria, meaning the gulf nations, not accepting refuges in? Even when places like Saudi Arabi has tons of tents and all that to house them? It bothers me that the countries with shared cultures and language dont want them.

I mention that at the end of my post. Saudi Arabia has air conditioned, fire proof tents that can house over 3 million people for the purpose of the Mecca pilgrimage and they are not allowing a single one of them to be used for Syrian refugees. Completely disgraceful... unless if you think that there is a purpose for denying them entry, which is to purposefully push them into Europe...

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13598893:PCPRINCIPAL said:
No she literally wouldn't stay in the same room as me. its not a generalization. He is a post grad student at the U and he used to have LOTS of people over. They were very rude to me and wouldn't even acknowledge that my gf existed, because I was living in "HIS" apartment, they felt less alienated and therefore treated me differently. The Muslims who come here to be American are very very few.

claiming that this country doesn't have history and culture is really fucking ignorant. Yeah our ancestors were immigrants, but we've been bound together by a nation. My ancestors date back to 2 decades after the revolutionary war. My family has served in every war this country has fought. There is a very rich history and culture in this country. Just because you are unaware doesnt mean its not there. New immigrants must educated themselves on the history of this country or they will never understand why things are the way they are. Same goes for people born here.

pilgrims, pioneers, industry men, hard working immigrants, the land of opportunity, land of the free, home to capitalism, home of the brave etc...

The majority of Muslims are inherently ethnocentric due to the inclusiveness of the religion they grew up knowing.

Iranians don't like Americans. Saudis don't like Americans. Palestinians Don't like Americans.

for the record an immigrant is not a refugee. One was forced here, one was not.

Our culture is a mish mash of cultures. There is no way around it. You seem to think that American culture is and should stay anglocentric. We don't have a long and rich cultural tradition compared to any other civilization outside of Australia haha. It's a 200 year old history that has woven together the traditions and cultures of the immigrants that built this country.

In every period of immigration throughout this country's history, your views were widely spread- the don't assimilate well, they speak and think poorly of Americans, they will hurt the country, etc. The Italians, chineese, Irish, etc. Everytime. Thank goodness those bigotted views didn't win out or our country's history wouldn't be as great, and our cultural not as rich and diversified as it is today...
 
13599011:PCPRINCIPAL said:
you are taking the entire situation out of context

How so? The Irish fled the potatoe famine and their influx led to the fear that their Catholicism would destroy this country for the same reasons you think Muslims will.

And you and I have very different experiences interacting with Arabs and Persians. Very different.
 
13598920:onenerdykid said:
I mention that at the end of my post. Saudi Arabia has air conditioned, fire proof tents that can house over 3 million people for the purpose of the Mecca pilgrimage and they are not allowing a single one of them to be used for Syrian refugees. Completely disgraceful... unless if you think that there is a purpose for denying them entry, which is to purposefully push them into Europe...

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This is the kind of thing that worries me. Supposedly while Saudi Arabia is not taking refugees, they're offering money to the west to build mosques.

All in all, I'm pretty sure that if the Middle East is going to get fixed, it's going to have to be done by the Middle East. Maybe the USA should switch its alliance from Saudi Arabia, a fundamentalist, near-authoritarian regime, to one with Iran, probably the closest thing to democracy in an Islamic Middle Eastern power...
 
13599024:californiagrown said:
How so? The Irish fled the potatoe famine and their influx led to the fear that their Catholicism would destroy this country for the same reasons you think Muslims will.

And you and I have very different experiences interacting with Arabs and Persians. Very different.

Where did i say they would destroy the nation?!!? You are making assumptions just to support your point. Did you miss that I mention he was a Hamas sympathizer? You do know what Hamas is right?

you've met persians?

you mean you've met Iranians.

Arabs?

Lets be more specific please. I think you are generalizing quite a few people who are very very different.

Im talking about an 27 year old Iranian nationalist who believes that America has deep rooted cultural problems, hates Jews, is extremely ethnocentric, and is subsidized by our government. Meaning our taxes pay for his entire existence

What are you talking about?

"America doesn't have culture"

yeah good point jackass
 
13599045:PCPRINCIPAL said:
Where did i say they would destroy the nation?!!? You are making assumptions just to support your point. Did you miss that I mention he was a Hamas sympathizer? You do know what Hamas is right?

you've met persians?

you mean you've met Iranians.

Arabs?

Lets be more specific please. I think you are generalizing quite a few people who are very very different.

Im talking about an 27 year old Iranian nationalist who believes that America has deep rooted cultural problems, hates Jews, is extremely ethnocentric, and is subsidized by our government. Meaning our taxes pay for his entire existence

What are you talking about?

"America doesn't have culture"

yeah good point jackass

Attack me personally when you can't refute the argument. Great strategy.
 
13599053:californiagrown said:
Attack me personally when you can't refute the argument. Great strategy.

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13599045:PCPRINCIPAL said:
Where did i say they would destroy the nation?!!? You are making assumptions just to support your point. Did you miss that I mention he was a Hamas sympathizer? You do know what Hamas is right?

Im talking about an 27 year old Iranian nationalist who believes that America has deep rooted cultural problems, hates Jews, is extremely ethnocentric, and is subsidized by our government. Meaning our taxes pay for his entire existence

What are you talking about?

"America doesn't have culture"

yeah good point jackass

I can't believe what I'm reading! Seems like you're not so bad after all.
 
13598929:californiagrown said:
Our culture is a mish mash of cultures. There is no way around it. You seem to think that American culture is and should stay anglocentric.

No, but our culture should always be rooted in the ideas of the Enlightenment.

There is no place for the backwards culture of Islam here.
 
13599218:Campeador said:
No, but our culture should always be rooted in the ideas of the Enlightenment.

There is no place for the backwards culture of Islam here.

Does Catholicism have any place here? The same things you are saying about Islam were said about the Irish when they came to the US.

Do you know what the enlightenment is?
 
13599251:californiagrown said:
Does Catholicism have any place here? The same things you are saying about Islam were said about the Irish when they came to the US.

Do you know what the enlightenment is?

What you're saying is a fallacy and you know it. The Irish weren't coming over here blowing up buildings and attacking people oppressing women and homosexuals under the ira they were just unwanted. An absolutely Catholicism has no place in the United States in the government or in public.
 
13599400:nocturnal said:
What you're saying is a fallacy and you know it. The Irish weren't coming over here blowing up buildings and attacking people oppressing women and homosexuals under the ira they were just unwanted. An absolutely Catholicism has no place in the United States in the government or in public.

The irish werent coming over here(in the 1800's AND catholic) oppressing women and homosexuals? Huh? did you write that and think, yup. thats a good, true sentence? Jesus.

And i didnt compare the irish to the current situation in the context of terrorism and terrorist threat. I was referencing the other poster's position that the muslim immigrants will ruin/destroy/hurt american culture and society through means other than terrorism.

To address your overall point- i agree that the terrorist aspect is new and troubling. I believe that a more strenuous screening proccess would help tremendously. \yes, a few will slip through no doubt. But honestly, that will likely be a drop in the bucket compared to possible terrorists getting in through all the other ways- remember, if the refugee can pass the cuirrent screening, they sure as shit can pass TSA and fly to america on vacation... so how dangerous are the refugees in the grand scheme?
 
13599446:californiagrown said:
The irish werent coming over here(in the 1800's AND catholic) oppressing women and homosexuals? Huh? did you write that and think, yup. thats a good, true sentence? Jesus.

To address your overall point- i agree that the terrorist aspect is new and troubling. I believe that a more strenuous screening proccess would help tremendously. \yes, a few will slip through no doubt. But honestly, that will likely be a drop in the bucket compared to possible terrorists getting in through all the other ways- remember, if the refugee can pass the cuirrent screening, they sure as shit can pass TSA and fly to america on vacation... so how dangerous are the refugees in the grand scheme?

Pretty dangerous being that they want to kill people in this country and you know what I meant the Irish didnt opress anymore then our country was at that time. Go to British Muslim communities today and tell me they're not moving backwards in time.
 
13599480:nocturnal said:
Pretty dangerous being that they want to kill people in this country and you know what I meant the Irish didnt opress anymore then our country was at that time. Go to British Muslim communities today and tell me they're not moving backwards in time.

How much more dangerous are those immigrants than folks from that area visiting on vacation? Folks that can pass the refugee background check, can pass through TSA. Should we shut down all vacationers who once lived in that part of the world? My morals would say that i should accept more risk to help people in need, than to help people who arent in need.

Thing is, it seems like they are people in need who dont present a risk higher than we are already accept.
 
First:

Wow haven't seen any German commenting this thread...means I am the first one. I see only people from America

Can't believe how much bullshit I read in here about that topic. Half is like i said bullshit other half is offtopic.. None post didnt actually faced and explained the problems we have here in Germany. It is really hard to explain to non Germans/ Europeans and especially to the rest of the world. So I dont wanna get into it here on NS :)

If you wanna get a good overview about Cologno, read newspaper.:
http://www.faz.net/
http://www.zeit.de/index
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/

These are imo the best to get a decent overview. Pretty recommended to Austrians or Switzerlandixx, who may want better informations of the current situation in Cologne. For non German speakers I can only say, just wait until everything is clear.

Second:

Why do North Americans, (YES Canada AND USA) judge our refugee policy? These two countries, who pick "their" immigrants/refugees out of milions who suffer from war, diseases or dictatorships. Who dont give ANY fucks about equal rights for every human. Better educated refugees were given the chance to stay in Canada/America. The "normal" ones should get slaghtered in Syria by brutal fucktards , because of their lower education (?). , Obv. NO! So they try to get to Europe instead. Here everybody has the same chance for a permanent stay. Doesnt matter if PhD in Stompenonics or server in an old tea house in Damaskus.

My home village (~3500 inhabitants) go now 500 refugees from whole fking Africa as well as Syria. Get into contact with those people, before generalizing and posting garbage in the internet.

Third:

The fear of immigrants in (US) America is terrifiying. Went one time to Oklahoma, never again. Lucky just a drive though. The more I came to countryside, the more terrified, racist and nationalistic rednecky fucktards I met. Those who were immigrants themselfes 1-300 years ago, the ones who got the opportunity to re-start their whole life. Why shouldn't Syrians, Eritreans or Iraqis have this chance too? I dont even want an answer, because there is no logical non racist one!

America, land of the "free". Haha bullshit, land of sadly too many conservative racists. Hope that the whole Donald Trump thing is a joke.

Luckily tons of openminded ppl at both coasts and especially here on Newschoolers, thanks guys!

Keep in mind: Never generalize and try to get a solid overview by reading local newspaper and stuff or asking local friends etc.

P.S.: Sorry for this essay. Wasn't meant to be that long. Ohh...and this is just my opinion, always open for a fair discussion :)
 
13599480:nocturnal said:
Go to British Muslim communities today and tell me they're not moving backwards in time.

Have you ever actually been to a Muslim community within the UK? They are not as they are portrayed to be in the American media. Most British Muslim communities are not first generation migrants and as a result are integrated into British society whilst retaining some of their traditional cultures.
 
13599501:californiagrown said:
How much more dangerous are those immigrants than folks from that area visiting on vacation? Folks that can pass the refugee background check, can pass through TSA. Should we shut down all vacationers who once lived in that part of the world? My morals would say that i should accept more risk to help people in need, than to help people who arent in need.

Thing is, it seems like they are people in need who dont present a risk higher than we are already accept.

Don't worry man this year when a terrorist attack happens from one of them. All these people coming from that area will stop.

13599567:mishracer said:
Have you ever actually been to a Muslim community within the UK? They are not as they are portrayed to be in the American media. Most British Muslim communities are not first generation migrants and as a result are integrated into British society whilst retaining some of their traditional cultures.

I've seen videos of them yelling at women to put on more clothes and cover up even though they're not Muslim and live in that area.
 
13599585:nocturnal said:
I've seen videos of them yelling at women to put on more clothes and cover up even though they're not Muslim and live in that area.

I am from the UK and I am just telling you the reality on the ground.
 
13599446:californiagrown said:
I was referencing the other poster's position that the muslim immigrants will ruin/destroy/hurt american culture and society through means other than terrorism.

No one said that.

comparing the current situation to the Irish potato famine is like next level retard.
 
Who now what Taqiyya is? I've actually had personal experience with this type of deception and it is very very dangerous.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6587/carson-taqiyya-dissimulation

they will lie about anything to benefit themselves. Muslims always frontin but they hate us.

Inclusive Religions have no business trying to impose themselves in this country. I'm all for taking in refugees but it makes no sense to hold onto the religion that made you a refugee in the first place. Most logical middle eastern immigrants understand that there are deep rooted problems with Islam and any level headed, reasonable muslim understands this and typically chooses not to defend the religion and to just not talk about it all together.

For the record, anyone who thinks one religion is better than another and can't see that they are all related to the same existence is a kook in my book.
 
13599615:PCPRINCIPAL said:
No one said that.

comparing the current situation to the Irish potato famine is like next level retard.

Yes, posters did. Why's that?

13599623:PCPRINCIPAL said:
Who now what Taqiyya is? I've actually had personal experience with this type of deception and it is very very dangerous.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6587/carson-taqiyya-dissimulation

they will lie about anything to benefit themselves. Muslims always frontin but they hate us.

Inclusive Religions have no business trying to impose themselves in this country. I'm all for taking in refugees but it makes no sense to hold onto the religion that made you a refugee in the first place. Most logical middle eastern immigrants understand that there are deep rooted problems with Islam and any level headed, reasonable muslim understands this and typically chooses not to defend the religion and to just not talk about it all together.

For the record, anyone who thinks one religion is better than another and can't see that they are all related to the same existence is a kook in my book.

Jews will lie about anything to benefit themselves and their religious community. They're sheisty. Any new who chose to hold onto their religon after that religonade them a refugee in the first place is crazy.

Oh, and didya hear about the Christian college who fired a professor for saying that Christians and Muslims worship the same biblical god? Looks like Christians are looks too! Too many kooks in this kitchen for my liking!
 
13599585:nocturnal said:
Don't worry man this year when a terrorist attack happens from one of them. All these people coming from that area will stop.

I honestly don't know what you were trying to say here...
 
13599605:mishracer said:
I am from the UK and I am just telling you the reality on the ground.

I don't belive you



Yeah I see no problem with these people in your country 10 years down the road.
 
13599530:fab02 said:
First:

Wow haven't seen any German commenting this thread...means I am the first one. I see only people from America

Can't believe how much bullshit I read in here about that topic. Half is like i said bullshit other half is offtopic.. None post didnt actually faced and explained the problems we have here in Germany. It is really hard to explain to non Germans/ Europeans and especially to the rest of the world. So I dont wanna get into it here on NS :)

If you wanna get a good overview about Cologno, read newspaper.:
http://www.faz.net/
http://www.zeit.de/index
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/

These are imo the best to get a decent overview. Pretty recommended to Austrians or Switzerlandixx, who may want better informations of the current situation in Cologne. For non German speakers I can only say, just wait until everything is clear.

Second:

Why do North Americans, (YES Canada AND USA) judge our refugee policy? These two countries, who pick "their" immigrants/refugees out of milions who suffer from war, diseases or dictatorships. Who dont give ANY fucks about equal rights for every human. Better educated refugees were given the chance to stay in Canada/America. The "normal" ones should get slaghtered in Syria by brutal fucktards , because of their lower education (?). , Obv. NO! So they try to get to Europe instead. Here everybody has the same chance for a permanent stay. Doesnt matter if PhD in Stompenonics or server in an old tea house in Damaskus.

My home village (~3500 inhabitants) go now 500 refugees from whole fking Africa as well as Syria. Get into contact with those people, before generalizing and posting garbage in the internet.

Third:

The fear of immigrants in (US) America is terrifiying. Went one time to Oklahoma, never again. Lucky just a drive though. The more I came to countryside, the more terrified, racist and nationalistic rednecky fucktards I met. Those who were immigrants themselfes 1-300 years ago, the ones who got the opportunity to re-start their whole life. Why shouldn't Syrians, Eritreans or Iraqis have this chance too? I dont even want an answer, because there is no logical non racist one!

America, land of the "free". Haha bullshit, land of sadly too many conservative racists. Hope that the whole Donald Trump thing is a joke.

Luckily tons of openminded ppl at both coasts and especially here on Newschoolers, thanks guys!

Keep in mind: Never generalize and try to get a solid overview by reading local newspaper and stuff or asking local friends etc.

P.S.: Sorry for this essay. Wasn't meant to be that long. Ohh...and this is just my opinion, always open for a fair discussion :)

Mad pussy reply this.

But you clearly have no problems with Germany and Scandanavia becoming the rape capitals of Europe and have no respect for women...just stay at arms length right?

People like you are probably scared to even think of admitting all the good things Germany achieved under the Third Reich when they conquered virtually all of Europe. Look at you then and look at you now. Sure you aren't French???

Fuck whoever downvoted my posts blame yourself when your girlfriend/sister get raped by a group of muslims. That is a regular occurrence even somewhere as close to us as the UK where in the northern predominantly muslim areas gangs of muslim pedophiles prey on young white women and the pc media sweeps it under the rug.

These people are global menaces and must be kept out of the western world as much as possible.

NOW there are some good ones. BUt those are the ones who have been here in the USA for decades and don't have strong ties to the middle east and aren't super religious. THe new wave of muslim migrants are BAD fucking news.

And the biggest joke is the Arabic countries don't want this vermin either even though its their own people Iran/Saudia Arabia etc etc refuse to take a single refugee in. But they will pay to build mosques in EUrope.

They are invaders wake up if you don't agree your as soft as the German kid Im quoting who thinks the muslim invasion of the west is cool.
 
13600250:nocturnal said:
I don't belive you

Yeah I see no problem with these people in your country 10 years down the road.

Look man if you want to drag up some videos from the depths of the internet to further insight an argument then I'm fine with that but, I was merely stating that the reality is not what you believe it to be. I live in the UK, I see the reality every day. You however, live several thousand miles away in a different country and presume to lecture me on the country in which I live and the society in which I am immersed. Sure, there are a few bad apples but every section of society has them. British society has and continues to face a number of multifaceted problems, this is just one on a long list.
 
13600271:mishracer said:
Look man if you want to drag up some videos from the depths of the internet to further insight an argument then I'm fine with that but, I was merely stating that the reality is not what you believe it to be. I live in the UK, I see the reality every day. You however, live several thousand miles away in a different country and presume to lecture me on the country in which I live and the society in which I am immersed. Sure, there are a few bad apples but every section of society has them. British society has and continues to face a number of multifaceted problems, this is just one on a long list.

Muslim extremists are a problem and they need to be stopped. Seem we agree they're a cancer and they should all be killed. Not all Muslims but the one who kill or oppressed in the name of religion. Fuck those people and their backwards society.
 
13600257:PeppermillReno said:
And I am first generation American my parents are immigrants btw Im the last person to be anti immigration.

Yet you still are anti-immigration? If folks are from a certain part of the world where bad things are happening, they arent allowed in, right? Whatever happened to judging a man on the content of his character isntead of the color of his skin... or in this case, his birthplace?

13600276:nocturnal said:
Not all Muslims but the one who kill or oppressed in the name of religion. Fuck those people and their backwards society.

Now thats something the whole family can agree on!

Problem is, you started out broadly talking about islam. Islamaphobia is whack. A muslim woman was escorted out of a Trump rally for wearing a hajib, and wearing a shirt saying "i come in peace". she was harassed for simply standing there silently. Trump was cool with it. whatever happened to the republican party?

Remember John McCain? At one of his rallys, an ignorant redneck stood up, and started ranting about muslim barack, and terrorist hussein obama etc. Ya know what good ol' John did? he told her she was misinformed, and to sit down, shut up, and that she did not represent his views or opinions, or anything he condones. he did this and then went on to bash obama's policies and political career- like a well run campaign.

Trump on the other hand, is happy to flame the fires of ignorance, racism, islamaphobia, and whatever else he can so as to pander to the lowest common denominator. Its fucking disgraceful. For the same reasons reality TV became popular, Trump is popular- the public likes watching their innermost drama queen and asshole comeout to play. Trump is effectivly condoning, and stoking everyones innermost prejudices and fears- the ones that we logically know are wrong and shouldnt be acted upon, but we all hold nonetheless.
 
13600276:nocturnal said:
Muslim extremists are a problem and they need to be stopped. Seem we agree they're a cancer and they should all be killed. Not all Muslims but the one who kill or oppressed in the name of religion. Fuck those people and their backwards society.

You say "Fuck those people and their backwards society" whilst in the sentence before saying "they should all be killed" do you not think that that is rather contradictory?We should not lower ourselves to their level whilst fighting them over some of their backwards attitudes, beliefs and actions.
 
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