NSers in Fraternities/Sororities

were you seriously one of those kids in high school who thought being a senior made him cool? Your entire post is a shining example of how frats are douchebags who feel the need rent a buddy.
 
I am in Alpha Tau Omega at the U of M, pledged my fall Freshman semester and am now a senior, still loving it and not regretting it for a second. When I left high school, I was completely anti Greek life ("I am NOT a frat douche, I'll totally never join a frat and be a bro and what not"), but joining a fraternity is the best decision I've ever made. I just had a couple friends in the house, hung out with them, met the others, and the rest is history. Of course, there are those that fit the stereotype, and that's why it's important to explore options and choose a house that is right for you, and frankly, I am almost positive there is a house somewhere that would make even the most hate filled Greek hater feel like pledging.

On a side note, ATO is nationally a dry Fraternity (basically meaning we cannot throw parties, or have any alcohol in our house at all), while also being one of the biggest in the nation, and it is fantastic. Much more focused on community service and leadership development. Evidence that all Fraternity guys aren't actually booze hounding pussy pounding bros? I think so.

In any case, haters gonna hate, but try not to bash and judge so hard on something if you have zero actual experience with it. Meeting a couple guys and going to one party is not enough exposure to pass the kinds of judgement's that are flying around in this thread.
 
Look, we aren't calling frats lame because of that one stereotype per se (at least I'm not). I've been to frats that were full of very polite, modest, and respectful young men with strong academic goals but still knew how to have fun every now an then. That isn't the point.

The point is that people feel the need to ascribe their social life and ego to an institution. It isn't enough to have a group of friends that do those things anyway. They NEED that stupid ornament signifying their official acceptance just so they can feel that acceptance in the first place, which quite frankly comes of as being insecure.

When you look at the stereotypical "frat bro" in the context of being insecure deep down, you see a sad little man trying too hard to compensate for something (a "douche"). When you look at the polite and respectable young men in frats under the same context, you see otherwise nice individuals being lame.
 
Stopped reading there. I fucking hate that term. Specially when people who aren't in a sorority or fraternity. They say they hate it but then give themselves letters like people in greek life do. If you hate it why are you trying to be like it?

And the guy who said ATO is dry and doesnt throw parties.... LOL if thats how your school is with ATO that fucking sucks. ATO at our school had some of the best parties.
 
Our ATO got raided and busted for selling coke and x. The house then was condemned because it was deemed unlivable. Dry my ass
 
i back frats, partying there is sick and all, down with drinking hazing but all that homo shit just goes way too far. plus partying at select canadian schools (mcgill for one) is wayy more fun than partying at any frat, no matter how hard you guys think you go
 
So, the Greek system at Iowa I feel is extremely stereotypical. Granted, yeah there are some guys I meet and they're pretty chill in a fraternity. But I would honestly have to say 90% I meet here are cocky little fuckwads that I want to jack straight in the mouth. Also, many, many girls I know and/or meet that are in sorroritys say they fucking hate frat guys. They are straight douche bags except for the rare exception. That is only my experience at MY campus. I know elsewhere Greek life is completely different, and my brother loved his experience in the Greek system at Iowa State. But I hate reading the whole success rate among fraternities and crap. So biased it's not even funny, you dont look at external factors whatsoever. Im sitting comfortably at a 3.7 because I'm not in a frat. I know my GPA would be much lower if I was, and at the same time I've known about 15 people that drop out because their frat life caused them to only maintain about a 1.5 GPA. One of my best friends at college was in Sig Ep, and he said it was one of the worst things he was ever a part of and no longer is. So. I really think it varies on which school you go to and how greek life is specific to each area.
 
Just to clarify, I AM in a frat. I'm not really involved anymore just because most of my friends are outside of it. I still go to the bangers they throw but that's about it. But I definitely think frats are tons of fun. You meet so many people, especially gorgeous women, and you get involved in tons of stuff on campus. Free intramural sports, tons of awesome volunteer projects (always paired up with a hot soririty), etc.

Yeah you'll always come across the douchebag in the frat. But so fucking what!? I find people like that hilarious simply because i don't understand how someone can live their life acting the way they do. Do i sit in the corner and bitch to other people about that? Fuck that. Everyone's different which is what makes frats so much fun.
 
lol this is all easy to make time for and expected by every student. you dont need a frat to tell you exactly when and how to do it.
 
I wish it was only 10 hours. I end up studying at least 20 hours a week. It's steadily increasing right now, too. This week and next week should be pretty busy since I've got two B's that need to be brought up with next week's midterms.
 
from toronto, go to school in the states (Bowdoin College). spent the past three years partying at my homie's schools all over from UMASS amherst, UCSB, to queens and McGill. zoomass is fun, but its no MTL. i'm not saying i didnt have fun at any of these places, in fact UCSB halloween was like one of the best times ever. but, you are more likely to be able to have a dope night 5/7 nights in montreal as a 20 year old than anywhere else probably. mind you there are places I havent been, and some particular american schools are more fun than particular canadian schools. except in terms of averages, not single nights, canadians do it better. I accept your challenge to show me a better time at any american school than my friends have showed me at McGill.
 
Come and party with us my friend. Legal drinking age be damned.

But yeah man, SB halloweekend is pretty fucking crazy.
 
" When my ancestors came over to this great country 400 years ago, they had a vision for a utopia, free from minorities, liberals, poor people, homosexuals, and immigrants. There are few today who share such lofty ideals, but we're easy to find: Pastel polo shirts, loafers without socks, tucked-in shirts, but most importantly, collars up. Call me a douchebag. Call me an arrogant little cocksucking dickhead. Beat the shit out of me if I'm not with fifteen of my B-frat friends (unlikely). But just know this: I interned at Smith Barney this summer. Where did you work? A Blockbuster? That's right you insignificant sack of dogshit; I'm going to be your boss. So take your t-shirt wearing, financial aid, blue-collar ass over to Blockbuster and get me a copy of Old School. Do you even own a tuxedo? Look at my girlfriend. You think she'd go for someone who didn't have his collar up? I don't think so. I remember the night I met her. I bought her so many $9 drinks she couldn't even walk. So I drove her home in my BMW 328ci, but not before I took a few "liberties" with her. The next morning I took her to brunch and went to the mall, where I bought her some blouses. You assholes don't know the first thing about being a gentleman. You probably don't even know how to sail. When I get out of business school, I'm going to be making $120,000 a year. Add that to my trust fund, and I can buy a country club membership, a ski house, and still have enough money to go barhopping around the city in my designer clothes and shit-eating grin. Maybe I'll offer you a hundred bucks to flip my collar up for me. I earned it you middle-class fuck up. I bet you went to public school. You're so predictable. I bet I can guess your political party just by looking at you. My cronies and I range from elitist northern liberals to heartless conservative bastards. I've wasted enough time with you. Get some rich parents, an internship, and a pink polo with the collar up, and then maybe I'll let you hang out with me."
 
So many fucking stereotypes in this thread. Don't hate on Greek life just cause you're not part if it. It also changes so much from school to school, I've met some douchey frat bros but it's not like that at all at my school.
 
Hahaha. Your Alpha chapter is at my University (Ya know... the ones that just got kicked off). I have a bunch of buddies from freshman year who rushed there. They hazed so goddamn much. like.... really bad shit.
 
My main point was that you should take your head out of your ass and realize that there are parties outside of frats just as fun and crazy. And I may not have been in a frat, but I've been to plenty of frat bangers at various institutions to know this is true.
 
And I know that economically that what you said is wrong. You get 100 guys who all throw in a good amount of money to throw giant ragers throughout the year. Parties get so much more wild this way than having an occasional house party with...OMG!! A KEG! Try 8 kegs for our bigger parties, or 30 cases of booze. All im saying is that economically you get better parties when you get 100 people to toss in a bunch of money than you would 4-6 people tossing in money.
 
thank god for canadian universities and an apparent lack of much in the way of frats. at least at uoguelph. IMO the most laid-back and like-minded student body I can imagine, exact opposite of what im reading in this thread.
 
I would tell about some other shit in here that makes waterboarding look like nothing.. but for the sake of all the fraternity haters in this thread, I'll refrain.
 
dang. being apart of a house that has 100 member.s Thats alot! I only have 30 members in mine and we still have pretty fun social events.
 
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