Moment Skis Discussion Thread

14529181:PartyBullshiit said:
Caught it yesterday when it went live. Will more be added?
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I'll be adding more in the coming weeks, but what's listed are all the previous year models I have in the factory.
 
14529884:crayfed said:
Is the frankenski the only ski moment makes that's really applicable in the park? It's too short :/
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Yeah next closest probably the wildcat 101, and mount forward a little
 
14529884:crayfed said:
Is the frankenski the only ski moment makes that's really applicable in the park? It's too short :/
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Wildcat 101 is extremely popular for park as well. While it’s not a “dedicated” park ski like the frankenski it seems a lot of people park the 101 cat.
 
For those of you who’ve been on both the 190 and 184 deathwish 104, how much playfulness do you feel you lost on the 190 vs the 184?
 
Hey everyone I'm sure this question has been beat to death but I'm still looking for some more input on my specific use case after reading every thread I can find on the comparison. I'm debating between Deathwish 112 and Wildcat 108.

About me: I'm 6'3", 185-195 lbs. I live and ski in Colorado, mostly in the front range. I'm an "expert" skier, and spend most of my time skiing all-mountain terrain with a heavy freestyle influence; Lots of roller/side-hit ollies & 360s, up to 15ft cliff drops, etc. I'm looking for a daily driver normal/soft condition ski that I expect to take out ~75% of the time (I have other skis in the quiver for really firm or really deep days).

I'm struggling because my ski style kind of switches back and fourth between charging hard/fast/not making many turns/plowing through chopped up powder & harder crud vs. slowing it down and making tight controlled turns in trees/moguls and jumping/spinning off anything I can find. There's a freestyle backbone to both of these ski styles. I've been reflecting on these differences a lot, and I really think I'm 50/50 split between these two types of skiing.

From my research, it seems the WC 108 would be better suited for the more charge-y style, the DW would be better for the slower/more playful style. Given my size/weight the WC might have more of the support I need, but I'm really intrigued by the triple camber technology and am drawn to the hard pack performance/playfulness of the DW. I have a pair of (2015?) Tallac's as a touring setup and I've skied them at the resort a few times and those things are LOCKED to the snow when carving groomers. That ski can't really charge because it's light, but I'm really impressed with the edge hold and can only imagine what it would be like to ski with that kind of locked-down feel on a bigger/more supportive ski.

I've already called the factory which was helpful but from the two people I chatted with, one gave a slight edge to the DW and one gave the slight edge to the WC.

Definitely going for the 190 length either way.

Some questions that I still have:

- I love carving switch on groomers. Is there a big switch skiing performance difference between these skis?

- Which ski feels like it has more pop? I'm a pretty big guy, and I'm confident shifting my weight around forward/backwards on my skis to ollie/nollie, so I'm not afraid to get pop out of a stiffer ski.

- Is there any difference in feeling balanced in the air on spins? Swing weight differences? This is from a cliff/side hit perspective more than a park perspective.

I'm sure I can't go wrong either way, but if anyone has any input to help me make my decision, please help!
 
14530456:Pikachu. said:
Hey everyone I'm sure this question has been beat to death but I'm still looking for some more input on my specific use case after reading every thread I can find on the comparison. I'm debating between Deathwish 112 and Wildcat 108.

About me: I'm 6'3", 185-195 lbs. I live and ski in Colorado, mostly in the front range. I'm an "expert" skier, and spend most of my time skiing all-mountain terrain with a heavy freestyle influence; Lots of roller/side-hit ollies & 360s, up to 15ft cliff drops, etc. I'm looking for a daily driver normal/soft condition ski that I expect to take out ~75% of the time (I have other skis in the quiver for really firm or really deep days).

I'm struggling because my ski style kind of switches back and fourth between charging hard/fast/not making many turns/plowing through chopped up powder & harder crud vs. slowing it down and making tight controlled turns in trees/moguls and jumping/spinning off anything I can find. There's a freestyle backbone to both of these ski styles. I've been reflecting on these differences a lot, and I really think I'm 50/50 split between these two types of skiing.

From my research, it seems the WC 108 would be better suited for the more charge-y style, the DW would be better for the slower/more playful style. Given my size/weight the WC might have more of the support I need, but I'm really intrigued by the triple camber technology and am drawn to the hard pack performance/playfulness of the DW. I have a pair of (2015?) Tallac's as a touring setup and I've skied them at the resort a few times and those things are LOCKED to the snow when carving groomers. That ski can't really charge because it's light, but I'm really impressed with the edge hold and can only imagine what it would be like to ski with that kind of locked-down feel on a bigger/more supportive ski.

I've already called the factory which was helpful but from the two people I chatted with, one gave a slight edge to the DW and one gave the slight edge to the WC.

Definitely going for the 190 length either way.

Some questions that I still have:

- I love carving switch on groomers. Is there a big switch skiing performance difference between these skis?

- Which ski feels like it has more pop? I'm a pretty big guy, and I'm confident shifting my weight around forward/backwards on my skis to ollie/nollie, so I'm not afraid to get pop out of a stiffer ski.

- Is there any difference in feeling balanced in the air on spins? Swing weight differences? This is from a cliff/side hit perspective more than a park perspective.

I'm sure I can't go wrong either way, but if anyone has any input to help me make my decision, please help!
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I only ski the wildcat/bibby but can vouch for its playfulness/charger. However it’s not a great ski to go slow on, it’s doable but for instance I’d much rather be on the jefferey than the bibby on most days.

if I am charging through crud and deeper snow I bring the bibby out but for a mix of both, it’s the jefferey. I was looking at the DW as well, and it seemed closer to the jefferey than the WC.

I think both will hold up amazing, I have no negatives about the bibby because it’s exactly what I wanted the ski for, it rips. Keep reading up on reviews, don’t think you’ll go wrong.

Id probably go DW for you mostly on the groomer performance you mentioned.
 
I’ve been skiing both lately. Cat 08 is 179. The full cat is the 190. Deathwish demo (far right) is a 184.

the cat 08 does feel more “playful” than the 112 wish. But not by much and not enough to say the wish is not playful

the edge hold on the wish in basically all conditions is pretty damn impressive. I did feel like my cat 08 got pushed around a tad more than the wish 112.

On foot the 08 cat and 112 wish feel similar weight wise and swing wise. I personally didn’t notice a huge difference until the cat 190 which is a 118 and feels it.

Personally having all these skis if I was adding only 1 it would be the deathwish 112. It’s an amazing all around ski. You’re not going to be unhappy at all.

the cat is a great ski as well. I love mine, but it is a mustache rocker profile so not very different. Triple camber has a huge following for a reason. In the end a 184 wish was added to the quiver.

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Your quiver is RAD. I had another chat with Tyler @ Moment Factory and we basically came to the same conclusion as you. Pretty sure I'm going to go with the DW. Now to make a binding choice...

14530468:PartyBullshiit said:
I’ve been skiing both lately. Cat 08 is 179. The full cat is the 190. Deathwish demo (far right) is a 184.

the cat 08 does feel more “playful” than the 112 wish. But not by much and not enough to say the wish is not playful

the edge hold on the wish in basically all conditions is pretty damn impressive. I did feel like my cat 08 got pushed around a tad more than the wish 112.

On foot the 08 cat and 112 wish feel similar weight wise and swing wise. I personally didn’t notice a huge difference until the cat 190 which is a 118 and feels it.

Personally having all these skis if I was adding only 1 it would be the deathwish 112. It’s an amazing all around ski. You’re not going to be unhappy at all.

the cat is a great ski as well. I love mine, but it is a mustache rocker profile so not very different. Triple camber has a huge following for a reason. In the end a 184 wish was added to the quiver.

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14530484:Pikachu. said:
Your quiver is RAD. I had another chat with Tyler @ Moment Factory and we basically came to the same conclusion as you. Pretty sure I'm going to go with the DW. Now to make a binding choice...
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Tyler is super knowledgeable. All the moment people are. They’ve been super helpful in guiding me to the right skis.

there is only one correct answer. Pivots. If you don’t mind the color pivot 15’s are onsale here for $220 shipped USD. Their prices are in CAD.

For that price pivot is the only answer.

they have black 18’s onsale too but those are only 75 brakes.
 
14530491:PartyBullshiit said:
Tyler is super knowledgeable. All the moment people are. They’ve been super helpful in guiding me to the right skis.

there is only one correct answer. Pivots. If you don’t mind the color pivot 15’s are onsale here for $220 shipped USD. Their prices are in CAD.

For that price pivot is the only answer.

they have black 18’s onsale too but those are only 75 brakes.
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I'm definitely going with pivots. Really trying to decide between the raw and gold color for the blue reaper deathwishes. I'm not fan of the forza colorway unfortunately, but I appreciate the pointer.

Anyone have any thoughts? I have blue boots similar color to the DW topsheets. Leaning towards the gold ones to give a bit of contrast between blue skis and blue boots.
 
14530501:Pikachu. said:
I'm definitely going with pivots. Really trying to decide between the raw and gold color for the blue reaper deathwishes. I'm not fan of the forza colorway unfortunately, but I appreciate the pointer.

Anyone have any thoughts? I have blue boots similar color to the DW topsheets. Leaning towards the gold ones to give a bit of contrast between blue skis and blue boots.
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I've got the 104 and went gold, I think it compliments the graphic style a lot. Raw would look mean too but maybe a little boring.

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My god those things are sexy. Making me real excited! I like how the bindings line up so that it almost looks like the reaper is wielding them. I think gold would look really good on the 112s as well.

14530505:cndr said:
I've got the 104 and went gold, I think it compliments the graphic style a lot. Raw would look mean too but maybe a little boring.

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14530511:muffMan. said:
Seeing the blades here makes me want some chipotle bananas.

Who has skied Bibbys and the CBs here?
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Bananas are so nice in person. When I was picking up my blades and fondling bananas even though I know I have no use for a 122 waist ski atm, I still want them lol.
 
14530516:PartyBullshiit said:
Bananas are so nice in person. When I was picking up my blades and fondling bananas even though I know I have no use for a 122 waist ski atm, I still want them lol.
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Yeah I’m poor but a guy can dream. Also want some commanders for when I’m tryna fuck up the mountain too.
 
14532358:blueberrypaladin said:
Might set a world record for fastest sellout in history when the first Countach blems go up
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I’d be really shocked if you see countach blems anytime soon.

these all seem to be their normal mass produced skis.

i was there earlier in the month and there wasn’t that many countach period.
 
14532360:PartyBullshiit said:
I’d be really shocked if you see countach blems anytime soon.

these all seem to be their normal mass produced skis.

i was there earlier in the month and there wasn’t that many countach period.
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Yah not holding out hope in the near term, but gotta stay ready next season!
 
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14530501:Pikachu. said:
I'm definitely going with pivots. Really trying to decide between the raw and gold color for the blue reaper deathwishes. I'm not fan of the forza colorway unfortunately, but I appreciate the pointer.

Anyone have any thoughts? I have blue boots similar color to the DW topsheets. Leaning towards the gold ones to give a bit of contrast between blue skis and blue boots.
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My buddies throwing attacks on his in yellow. Actually looks really good with the side caps and really makes the top sheet pop.
 
Dang. Interested to hear about the decision to ditch the Commanders next season. Any talk about a smaller waisted Countach as well? Something to replace the Commander 98
 
14534582:Olimar said:
Dang. Interested to hear about the decision to ditch the Commanders next season. Any talk about a smaller waisted Countach as well? Something to replace the Commander 98
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Not ditching them. Going to be an updated shape and waists.
 
14534588:PartyBullshiit said:
Not ditching them. Going to be an updated shape and waists.
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Guess I better get to work then.
 
14534612:hot.pocket said:
I probably talk to Melee more than my wife haha, we're currently working on it, but don't ask for any details.
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Wishlist: More upturned tail/bit more rocker in the back, if I could land switch on my commanders more easily those would be the only ski I use lol
 
14536112:krayfed said:
Does Moment make special skis for David wise I’ve never seen those
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Yes, we sold it to the public for a single year but it's now a special build for David exclusively.
 
[tag=30362]@melee[/tag] [tag=144811]@hot.pocket[/tag] have you guys ever made (or considered making) a big poster with small pictures of every one of your skis on it? Sometimes my internet goes out and I need some material IYKWIM

Something like this:

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