M&A stoke

I hate when people use the difference between taking and making an image to define when someone is a real photographer or w/e. Unless you are running a full external lighting setup with models or props you aren't really making anything. If you go to a park shoot and wander around placing lights experimenting to get a cool shot, you aren't making anything. You need to have a pre plan and idea for a shoot for it to be something you made. Making images is strictly not allowed in photojournalism as you are manipulating the truth, or in real documentary work you are simply an observer and should not interfere with the events. So in these cases you are taking (capturing might be a better word) photos, not making them. Does that diminish the quality of the image or make the photographer any less of one compared to someone on a fashion shoot set? I don't think so at all, the exact opposite really. Anyone can learn lighting set ups and spend hours in the studio positioning lights for a product shot, but that doesn't translate to being able to act and think quickly in the field in very hectic, sometimes life and death situations, having to work with what you are given in the scene and not being able to go to the storage room and grab a diffuser or something.

/endofftopicrandomtalking
 
Balto, I totally agree, sorry, that was bad word choice. Basically I meant making as in planning, or capturing an image in such a way to tell a story, or convey something with it, looking at a situation and trying to capture it in the most intelligent, or striking way possible. Your point about photojournalism is really good too. I am having a hard time articulating my point, I guess I am just trying to make the distinction that is really nebulous. I also realize that I am in no way a qualified Photographer so I am probably just blabbing pretentiously.
 
The perfect graph for the above situation:

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I miss the part where you become an old fart, buy a digital Leica, start to solely shoot family snapshits and "street photography" whilst making thousands of German engineering dicksucking posts on l-camera-forum and post comments like this under other snapshits:

"Stuart, the first shot works the best for me! I very much like the framing and the colors. The expression of your subject adds much to the photo!"

I did not actually make this up...

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/street-photography/337603-hes-distributing-handbills-flair-2-photos.html

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13049830:Shlogan said:
Here's how I've used it in the first couple days of owning.
https://www.facebook.com/loganbonwellphotography

and heres one of my photos from the 6d on the front page right now
https://www.newschoolers.com/photo/718226.0/First-run-in-the-Beartooths?c=2
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Read these two articles and save your self years of embarrassment (which I am completely guilty of myself - I think we all are).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/

If a non-photographer admires your work: don't believe them. Observe why they might feel that way, but don't validate yourself with worthless compliments. Criticism is immensely valuable once you learn to check your ego at the door.
 
13050126:omnidata said:
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I miss the part where you become an old fart, buy a digital Leica, start to solely shoot family snapshits and "street photography" whilst making thousands of German engineering dicksucking posts on l-camera-forum and post comments like this under other snapshits:

"Stuart, the first shot works the best for me! I very much like the framing and the colors. The expression of your subject adds much to the photo!"

I did not actually make this up...

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/street-photography/337603-hes-distributing-handbills-flair-2-photos.html

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Wait I already do this... Not even mad though my Leicas are leic my children
 
13051178:bo0b said:
/p/ is really not that bad
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/p/'s criticism is just brutally honest which is lovely. Pampering and wrongfully postulating some non-existent greatness in everyone's snapshits makes a better photographer out of no one.
 
13057463:DingoSean said:
Ah, yes. The immortal film waster.
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The Ch setting is dangerous and addictive. Focussing is ridiculous though, it keeps up way to easily, the way it throws elements around is downright scary, I had a friends 135mm f2 DC on it and it flung those pieces of glass around so hard you could feel it jolting. I'd recommend you get one too, with the prices they are going for these days.
 
13057839:omnidata said:
The Ch setting is dangerous and addictive. Focussing is ridiculous though, it keeps up way to easily, the way it throws elements around is downright scary, I had a friends 135mm f2 DC on it and it flung those pieces of glass around so hard you could feel it jolting. I'd recommend you get one too, with the prices they are going for these days.
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I've definitely considered one, but I feel like my freezer would be lacking in film within a few hours of receiving it due to the sheer hunger that thing has for gelatin emulsion.

Still. It would be pretty friggin awesome to make some old-school 36 frame action sequence shots with one of these.
 
Went with my brother to the production company he works for yesterday, while they were using their RED Epic. Good god that camera is utter beauty.
 
13057912:steezysteeze said:
What you sellin doe..
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Forgot to answer this:

Tokina 11-16 Nikon mount - $400

Sachtler Cine DSLR - $1,000

Miller Solo DV CF - $600

There's probably some other stuff I'm forgetting...
 
13050126:omnidata said:
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I miss the part where you become an old fart, buy a digital Leica, start to solely shoot family snapshits and "street photography" whilst making thousands of German engineering dicksucking posts on l-camera-forum and post comments like this under other snapshits:
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This is happening to my dad, he just announced he's selling half the garden and buying a leica T. Yeah, seriously.
 
13060784:JakeSmith said:
They changed KEH a ton. Not sure how I feel about this
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I noticed this a few days ago. I was looking for something one night, leave and come back again the next morning; BOOM, new layout

I don't like it
 
13060900:Blake.P said:
I noticed this a few days ago. I was looking for something one night, leave and come back again the next morning; BOOM, new layout

I don't like it
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Neither do I. I've been waiting for a 75mm for my Mamiya 6 to pop up on there so I would periodically check the mamiya 6/7 section. Now there is just a mamiya MF section that includes lenses for all of their MF systems so I have to search for 75mm and sift through all the 75mm's for other systems.
 
13057929:lIllI said:
I sold my photo gear a while ago. Now I'm selling all my video gear to focus on music.
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Damn, congrats on focusing on music, but I really loved your photos :___:
 
13065477:SourSteezle said:
Sigma 17-35 1.8 fixed, I'm pretty stoked on this right now

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what the heck are you going to use it for? i'd definitely like to rent one some time but i hardly see what use they are
 
13065755:erikK said:
what the heck are you going to use it for? i'd definitely like to rent one some time but i hardly see what use they are
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Well, if anything, there's really no fast aperture lens greater than f2.8 that's wider than standard for a crop-camera... not that it's going to give you very much subject isolation or anything, but it's going to be unique amongst crop cameras.

Honestly, besides that, it's not particularly useful in my opinion, due to it's very short zoom range.
 
13065755:erikK said:
what the heck are you going to use it for? i'd definitely like to rent one some time but i hardly see what use they are
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anything I feel like using it for? when you want to rent it, hit me up and i'll charge you a small fortune

Tight(er) glidecam stuff, events, talking heads, anything that'll make me money. This lens will pay for itself in 1 day of shooting. And purchasing this lens I was able to sell other lenses that overlapped.
 
13065802:SourSteezle said:
anything I feel like using it for? when you want to rent it, hit me up and i'll charge you a small fortune

Tight(er) glidecam stuff, events, talking heads, anything that'll make me money. This lens will pay for itself in 1 day of shooting. And purchasing this lens I was able to sell other lenses that overlapped.
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That's the last lens Id use on a glidecam, it's fuckin huge
 
I don't come into M&A much anymore because I don't have much M&A going on anymore. That being said, in here today poking around the threads that people are posting...I'm stoked to see that people are still turning to M&A for help (even with the same questions as always) and are still getting useful feedback from those more experienced.

Literally stoked on the M&A forum.
 
13065954:blondie. said:
I don't come into M&A much anymore because I don't have much M&A going on anymore. That being said, in here today poking around the threads that people are posting...I'm stoked to see that people are still turning to M&A for help (even with the same questions as always) and are still getting useful feedback from those more experienced.

Literally stoked on the M&A forum.
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Good to see you back buddy :)
 
13066134:Bmo. said:
I'm confused, why would you want a big a heavy lens on a glidecam as opposed to a small prime?
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I'm assuming it's to proportionally reduce other forces(wind mainly I guess)
 
13066134:Bmo. said:
I'm confused, why would you want a big a heavy lens on a glidecam as opposed to a small prime?
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Because physics. The more weight you have on both ends of the fulcrum, the more stable it will be. This is precisely why a poorly-balanced cinema rig will always be more stable than a perfectly, impossibly balance GoPro-sized glidecam. It's also the reason I sold my HD2000 despite the fact that it's the perfect size for my small camera. I'd rather add 10 pounds to the camera and use a bigger Glidecam.
 
13066134:Bmo. said:
I'm confused, why would you want a big a heavy lens on a glidecam as opposed to a small prime?
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Because F=MA and by this formula, the greater its mass, the less a body accelerates under given force (assuming this is the same for both cases), and with the less acceleration the less shaking.

Fukkin sience bitch
 
13066718:vandersteeze said:
Because F=MA and by this formula, the greater its mass, the less a body accelerates under given force (assuming this is the same for both cases), and with the less acceleration the less shaking.

Fukkin sience bitch
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#vanderscience
 
13066718:vandersteeze said:
Because F=MA and by this formula, the greater its mass, the less a body accelerates under given force (assuming this is the same for both cases), and with the less acceleration the less shaking.

Fukkin sience bitch
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See I was thinking the opposite. The more size the bigger the wind problem becomes, causing shakes. But I guess not
 
13066759:Bmo. said:
See I was thinking the opposite. The more size the bigger the wind problem becomes, causing shakes. But I guess not
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Literally the only people bitching about wind are skier kids shooting tiny DSLR rigs with big furry shotgun mics. Of course wind is an issue for them. If DSLRs weren't so obnoxiously small for Glidecams, it wouldn't be an issue.
 
13066759:Bmo. said:
See I was thinking the opposite. The more size the bigger the wind problem becomes, causing shakes. But I guess not
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Yes theoretically but you have to consider the ratio of sizes to the ratio of mass. And in this case the big rig is only marginally bigger but significantly heavier so you still see a net benefit in stabilization
 
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