Lemme put it this way

13256221:plyswthsqrrls said:
lol no you didn't post a vid of that, would love to see it though

ok, go on the internetz, and type in "darren wilson amendment rights"
 
also the point isn't that cops with perfect records are suddenly doing horrific things. it's that cops with perfect records have been doing horrific things all along.
 
just saw the video you are talking about, and I had already seen it. how did that violate his first amendment rights? is it in there somewhere that you're allowed to videotape yourself being arrested? kind of defeats the whole "hands behind your back" thing
 
13256198:plyswthsqrrls said:
if the situation was reversed, if he had wrestled the gun away from officer wilson and killed him, would that be a better result in your eyes?

honestly i just wish darren hadn't shot at mike multiple times while he was running away, and then shot him in the arm when he put his hands up, then the chest as he knelt, and then the head as he fell.
 
13256240:plyswthsqrrls said:
just saw the video you are talking about, and I had already seen it. how did that violate his first amendment rights? is it in there somewhere that you're allowed to videotape yourself being arrested? kind of defeats the whole "hands behind your back" thing

it's unfortunate (for you) that you didn't bother to read what happened.
 
13256246:k-rob said:
honestly i just wish darren hadn't shot at mike multiple times while he was running away, and then shot him in the arm when he put his hands up, then the chest as he knelt, and then the head as he fell.

except that's not what happened, got any evidence saying it is? because there's plenty of evidence saying it isn't

13256248:k-rob said:
it's unfortunate (for you) that you didn't bother to read what happened.

oh I read what happened. the officer showed up to issue a summons regarding derelict vehicles on his property, guy sparks an attitude, disobeys cop, gets arrested. not the end of the world, happens all the time
 
13256112:JenniferGarner said:
How idiotic are you dummies? Your not calling them black. "That man who is black" is calling a man black. "That black guy" or "Blackie" is a direct reference to the color of his skin which shouldn't fucking matter. People claim they're not racist but there's a shit ton of underlying racism going on in this thread. Talk about how poverty and segregation ghettos resulting from the previous times is affecting a group of people. People who are stuck in a community with only other people who are starting from nothing. No access to good education or healthcare, only to minimum wage, chain-shop jobs. Most don't know about the government assistant programs to allow them a chance at a higher education.

That happens no matter what color skin you are but there just so happens in every major city a large population of minorities that were literally herded into the ghettos through selective real estate laws. Prejudice is still very prevalent and the kids who bring up stats about which person of which color skin commits more crime against other blah blah bullshit, read up on the stats about who earns more on average and how much more likely a person with white skin will get a job over a person with black skin.

Fucking shameful.

calling someone black is racist now? wtf? if its a white guy in a crowd of black people is it racist to call him white? its the one major physical differentiator between a white and black person, it just makes sense to use that to describe someone.

I dont even know what kind of weak minded shit would have to go through your head to reach the conclusion that calling someone white or black is offensive. crazy how people try so fucking hard to seek out any little thing to get offended about.

i wont even touch the other shit you posted, ill get all the super liberal college kids of NS calling me a racist for thinking minorities have the capability of being responsible for themselves and their actions and should be expected to be.
 
13255812:k-rob said:
you know full well that if the police were killing people they wouldn't just say so, but at least 2 witnesses have been found dead since November, one shot and burned in his car, Deandre Joshua, and one found dead in a channel named Shawn Gray (manner and cause of death pending autopsy).

who's instigating who is entirely up to personal opinion at this point, but seeing as how the cops showed up to peaceful protests wearing riot gear and firing weapons, i'm going with them. also they aren't the ones cleaning up the day after, the citizens are. there is never a good reason to be racist or brutal, especially if you're an armed and trained police officer, so idk how that came out of your head, especially since you already said racist cops aren't a problem.

"if the police were killing people they wouldn't just say so" you kidding? the media be going fucking nuts over that if a cop had killed someone. the guy found shot and dead in his car i thought they suspected was a result of protesters? dont know about the other guy just read about him, but really, you think the cops would just kill someone and leave him in a channel? there is no evidence i saw that would suggest a cop killed him.

The protesters beat a white guy to death with hammers, sure sounds like a peaceful anti racism protest to me.. I really dont get how you can twist this enough to call it a peaceful protest. there's nothing peaceful about killing a guy with hammers, burning innocent civilians cars, businesses and homes, and looting.
 
13256259:XtRemE11 said:
calling someone black is racist now? wtf? if its a white guy in a crowd of black people is it racist to call him white? its the one major physical differentiator between a white and black person, it just makes sense to use that to describe someone.

I dont even know what kind of weak minded shit would have to go through your head to reach the conclusion that calling someone white or black is offensive. crazy how people try so fucking hard to seek out any little thing to get offended about.

i wont even touch the other shit you posted, ill get all the super liberal college kids of NS calling me a racist for thinking minorities have the capability of being responsible for themselves and their actions and should be expected to be.

You're a fucking moron if you deduced that from what I wrote... strange you not only got the wrong point out of what I wrote but you also go on to claim that I'm specifically pointing to you as being racist. No one gives a shit if you describe a person as being black for some stupid reason but when you start referring to someone only based on their skin color, yeah that's the very definition of being racist.
 
13256112:JenniferGarner said:
How idiotic are you dummies? Your not calling them black. "That man who is black" is calling a man black. "That black guy" or "Blackie" is a direct reference to the color of his skin which shouldn't fucking matter.

So using your logic this is racist

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I don't remember anyone in this thread calling anyone blackie either. Saying "that man who is black" (which you just claimed is not racist) is no different than "that black man" (which you claim is racist). You're just nitpicking bullshit.

Now krob, I do agree that the lack of indictment for the Garner case is a head scratcher. Letting it go to trial should have been the obvious choice.
 
13256422:Cirillo said:
So using your logic this is racist

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I don't remember anyone in this thread calling anyone blackie either. Saying "that man who is black" (which you just claimed is not racist) is no different than "that black man" (which you claim is racist). You're just nitpicking bullshit.

Now krob, I do agree that the lack of indictment for the Garner case is a head scratcher. Letting it go to trial should have been the obvious choice.

Well yeah, she's a fucking racist too. Just because she's black doesn't mean she can't be racist. I think you would have figured this out by now. If you think the color of someone's skin actually means something, then you're a racist. Its as simple as that. People with black skin are 340% more likely to be pulled over than crackers. Fact.
 
13256857:JenniferGarner said:
People with black skin are 340% more likely to be pulled over than crackers. Fact.

Id you think the color if someones skin actually means something, then youre a racist
 
13256375:JenniferGarner said:
You're a fucking moron if you deduced that from what I wrote... strange you not only got the wrong point out of what I wrote but you also go on to claim that I'm specifically pointing to you as being racist. No one gives a shit if you describe a person as being black for some stupid reason but when you start referring to someone only based on their skin color, yeah that's the very definition of being racist.

The very definition of being racist eh? referring to someone based on their skin color?

pretty much every definition on the google machine says something like this..

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

I dont see how acknowledging a physical trait and using that to refer to someone is believing that race is superior or inferior. more just acknowledging a truth.
 
13256857:JenniferGarner said:
Well yeah, she's a fucking racist too. Just because she's black doesn't mean she can't be racist. I think you would have figured this out by now. If you think the color of someone's skin actually means something, then you're a racist. Its as simple as that. People with black skin are 340% more likely to be pulled over than crackers. Fact.

Black people also account for less that 13% of the population yet are responsible for half of the countries murders. backs commit more crime thus are more likely to be pulled over. sounds like a statistical truth rather than racism..
 
13256422:Cirillo said:
So using your logic this is racist

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I don't remember anyone in this thread calling anyone blackie either. Saying "that man who is black" (which you just claimed is not racist) is no different than "that black man" (which you claim is racist). You're just nitpicking bullshit.

Now krob, I do agree that the lack of indictment for the Garner case is a head scratcher. Letting it go to trial should have been the obvious choice.

On an unrelated note, the "black lives matter" is the stupidest motto people could possibly get behind. Of course they matter, the question is how much. If I really wanted to antagonize them I would make a sign that read "Dogs' lives matter" and hold it up right next to them.
 
13256944:XtRemE11 said:
The very definition of being racist eh? referring to someone based on their skin color?

I'm convinced that you're completely incapable of any reading comprehension.
 
13257815:JenniferGarner said:
I'm convinced that you're completely incapable of any reading comprehension.

"but when you start referring to someone only based on their skin color, yeah that's the very definition of being racist"

What am I incapable of comprehending?
 
13257941:eXtRemE1 said:
"but when you start referring to someone only based on their skin color, yeah that's the very definition of being racist"

What am I incapable of comprehending?

That's not the same as simply describing someone based on their skin color as a reference, you dense piece of racist trash. I'm pretty sure if you weren't a selective reader (or knew how to read at all), you would have seen me clarify that already. "That person who is black" and "that black guy" are two completely different statements but only the uneducated and ignorant will think they're the same thing.
 
13258059:JenniferGarner said:
That's not the same as simply describing someone based on their skin color as a reference, you dense piece of racist trash. I'm pretty sure if you weren't a selective reader (or knew how to read at all), you would have seen me clarify that already. "That person who is black" and "that black guy" are two completely different statements but only the uneducated and ignorant will think they're the same thing.

Ok I get what your saying. I still don't see how you're getting racism out of it. You have to assume so much about the individual saying it to reach that conclusion. There is no way "black people" or "black guy" is implying that blacks or an individual is inferior because of race.

you just like most easily offended PC people like to seek ways to twist little things like this into a racist issue. Maybe it's because you're bored, or need to feel above people by creating an issue so you can label others. I don't know. But I really would like to know how you function in the real world with such weak emotions. Do you just hate anybody with an opinion? I feel like people like this only exist on the Internet. Or just hide it so they can operate outside of their comfortable sensitive bubble.
 
13258127:XtRemE11 said:
Ok I get what your saying. I still don't see how you're getting racism out of it. You have to assume so much about the individual saying it to reach that conclusion. There is no way "black people" or "black guy" is implying that blacks or an individual is inferior because of race.

you just like most easily offended PC people like to seek ways to twist little things like this into a racist issue. Maybe it's because you're bored, or need to feel above people by creating an issue so you can label others. I don't know. But I really would like to know how you function in the real world with such weak emotions. Do you just hate anybody with an opinion? I feel like people like this only exist on the Internet. Or just hide it so they can operate outside of their comfortable sensitive bubble.

The actual defintion of racism is so much narrower than it is used. However in modern society, calling somebody racist is basically a trump card in any argument so people have been conditioned to make racism accusations at the first hint of anything racial.
 
13258211:Scaredwhiteboy said:
The actual defintion of racism is so much narrower than it is used. However in modern society, calling somebody racist is basically a trump card in any argument so people have been conditioned to make racism accusations at the first hint of anything racial.

Shut up, you racist.
 
On the Garner case, at this point I think it's pretty clear that there should have been an indictment for at least something. My initial reaction was, "giant dude, resisting arrest, cop responds as he was trained to, dude unfortunately dies because of health problems, case closed". But after getting some more info, and watching the thing closely, with the sound ("I can't breathe" is just chilling) it's pretty clear that they... killed the guy. For no reason. And I think any reasonable person of any race who HAS taken the time to look at the facts there probably agrees.

The Michael Brown thing is a bit more nuanced, in that if you read Wilson's grand jury testimony, it's compelling and more or less makes sense. The grand jury was - and this is unusual - presented with absolutely every piece of physical evidence that was available. If, after looking at that evidence, and then listening to Wilson, they thought "I believe that this guy is telling the truth", then they made the right decision by not indicting him. I know many people are inclined, based either on pre-existing biases or anger or a dozen other things, to disbelieve him on basic principle. But until I'm given some reason to think otherwise, I'm inclined to trust that the people who heard from the officer first-hand at least came to their decision honestly, and didn't think "this guy might be lying through his teeth here, hard to say, but let's just let him off the hook anyway".
 
13259666:J.D. said:
On the Garner case, at this point I think it's pretty clear that there should have been an indictment for at least something. My initial reaction was, "giant dude, resisting arrest, cop responds as he was trained to, dude unfortunately dies because of health problems, case closed". But after getting some more info, and watching the thing closely, with the sound ("I can't breathe" is just chilling) it's pretty clear that they... killed the guy. For no reason. And I think any reasonable person of any race who HAS taken the time to look at the facts there probably agrees.

The Michael Brown thing is a bit more nuanced, in that if you read Wilson's grand jury testimony, it's compelling and more or less makes sense. The grand jury was - and this is unusual - presented with absolutely every piece of physical evidence that was available. If, after looking at that evidence, and then listening to Wilson, they thought "I believe that this guy is telling the truth", then they made the right decision by not indicting him. I know many people are inclined, based either on pre-existing biases or anger or a dozen other things, to disbelieve him on basic principle. But until I'm given some reason to think otherwise, I'm inclined to trust that the people who heard from the officer first-hand at least came to their decision honestly, and didn't think "this guy might be lying through his teeth here, hard to say, but let's just let him off the hook anyway".

Great post JD
 
13259666:J.D. said:
On the Garner case, at this point I think it's pretty clear that there should have been an indictment for at least something. My initial reaction was, "giant dude, resisting arrest, cop responds as he was trained to, dude unfortunately dies because of health problems, case closed". But after getting some more info, and watching the thing closely, with the sound ("I can't breathe" is just chilling) it's pretty clear that they... killed the guy. For no reason. And I think any reasonable person of any race who HAS taken the time to look at the facts there probably agrees.

If you're able to talk.... You can breathe.

Dude was a scumbag with over 30 prior arrests including assault and grand larceny.... Maybe he should of kept his cool and not resisted arrest.
 
13259730:.frenchy said:
If you're able to talk.... You can breathe.

Dude was a scumbag with over 30 prior arrests including assault and grand larceny.... Maybe he should of kept his cool and not resisted arrest.

Right, he could breathe which is why the coroner determined that suffocation was the main cause of death... and yes, a prior criminal record is justification to kill someone. Great logic on both ends there.

I bet you've never had a major asthma attack before, let alone with 5 cops pressing into your back, compressing your chest. Stop trying to justify murdering civilians, its not working well for you.
 
13256239:k-rob said:
also the point isn't that cops with perfect records are suddenly doing horrific things. it's that cops with perfect records have been doing horrific things all along.

How do you know this? Are you spying on police officers 24/7 around the US? Are you a wizard? Or just a biased naive man child with a keyboard?
 
13254657:k-rob said:
that "bruise" on his face hasn't healed one bit in over 4 months.

1) “I never touched him” Michael Brown’s blood was found on his gun, on his shirt collar, and on his own pants

2) “After the incident I called for help” His body was laying in the middle of the street for four and a half hours

3) “I didn’t go for my mace because I didn’t know if it would even work on him” …What the fuck

4) “He handed me the cigarillos and said ‘Here, take this’ at which point I grabbed his wrist to control him somehow” OH OK

5) “I didn’t carry a taser so that was out of the question” “Why not” “Because we only have one available in the entire police department” UM

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http://writeinblack.tumblr.com/post/103529172491/im-handing-out-full-plates-of-shut-the-fuck-up
http://lorenabobbit.tumblr.com/post/103528560896
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http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sh...mendment-ill-lock-ass-up-arrests-man-filming/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...4-8593-da634b334390_story.html?wpmk=MK0000203
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/21/1337729/-15-Questions-for-Darren-Wilson
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...eir-story-about-the-murder-of-VonDerrit-Myers
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/05/ferguson-chief-lied-about-michael-brown-tape_n_5773420.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...erguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html

yeah the Ferguson PD are real straight shooters when it comes to unarmed citizens. and newschoolers has a fucking clue. there were zero homicides all year in Ferguson until Mike Brown, and they turned it into a police state. this is why black people hate cops.

2014: Victor White III (Iberia Parish, LA)

2014: Dante Parker (San Bernardino County, CA)

2014: Ezell Ford (Los Angeles, CA)

2014: Michael Brown (Ferguson, MO)

2014: Tyree Woodson (Baltimore, MD)

2014: John Crawford III (Beavercreek, OH)

2014: Eric Garner (New York, NY)

2014: Yvette Smith (Bastrop, TX)

2014: Jordan Baker (Houston, TX)

2013: Barrington Williams (New York, NY)

2013: Carlos Alcis (New York, NY)

2013: Deion Fludd (New York, NY)

2013: Jonathan Ferrell (Bradfield Farms, NC)

2013: Kimani Gray (New York, NY)

2013: Kyam Livingstone (New York, NY)

2013: Larry Eugene Jackson, Jr. (Austin, TX)

2013: Miriam Carey (Washington, DC)

2012: Chavis Carter (Jonesboro, AR)

2012: Dante Price (Dayton, OH)

2012: Duane Brown (New York, NY)

2012: Ervin Jefferson (Atlanta, GA)

2012: Jersey Green (Aurora, IL)

2012: Johnnnie Kamahi Warren (Dotham, AL)

2012: Justin Slipp (New Orleans, LA)

2012: Kendrec McDade (Pasadena, CA)

2012: Malissa Williams (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Nehemiah Dillard (Gainesville, FL)

2012: Ramarley Graham (New York, NY)

2012: Raymond Allen (Galveston, TX)

2012: Rekia Boyd (Chicago, IL)

2012: Reynaldo Cuevas (New York, NY)

2012: Robert Dumas Jr (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Sgt. Manuel Loggins Jr (Orange County, CA)

2012: Shantel Davis (New York, NY)

2012: Sharmel Edwards (Las Vegas, NV)

2012: Shereese Francis (New York, NY)

2012: Tamon Robinson (New York, NY)

2012: Timothy Russell (Cleveland, OH)

2012: Wendell Allen (New Orleans, LA)

2011: Alonzo Ashley (Denver, CO)

2011: Jimmell Cannon (Chicago, IL)

2011: Kenneth Chamberlain (White Plains, NY)

2011: Kenneth Harding (San Francisco, CA)

2011: Raheim Brown (Oakland, CA)

2011: Reginald Doucet (Los Angeles, CA)

2010: Aaron Campbell (Portland, OR)

2010: Aiyana Jones (Detroit, MI)

2010: Danroy Henry (Thornwood, NY)

2010: Derrick Jones (Oakland, CA)

2010: Steven Eugene Washington (Los Angeles, CA)

2009: Kiwane Carrington (Champaign, IL)

2009: Oscar Grant (Oakland, CA)

2009: Shem Walker (New York, NY)

2009: Victor Steen (Pensacola, FL)

2008: Tarika Wilson (Lima, OH)

2007: DeAunta Terrel Farrow (West Memphis, AR)

2006: Sean Bell (New York, NY)

2005: Henry Glover (New Orleans, LA)

2005: James Brisette (New Orleans, LA)

2005: Ronald Madison (New Orleans, LA)

2004: Timothy Stansbury (New York, NY)

2003: Alberta Spruill (New York, NY)

2003: Orlando Barlow (Las Vegas, NV)

2003: Ousmane Zongo (New York, NY)

2001: Timothy Thomas (Cincinnati, OH)

2000: Earl Murray (Dellwood, MO)

2000: Malcolm Ferguson (New York, NY)

2000: Patrick Dorismond (New York, NY)

2000: Prince Jones (Fairfax County, VA)

2000: Ronald Beasley (Dellwood, MO)

1999: Amadou Diallo (New York, NY)

1994: Nicholas Heyward Jr. (New York, NY)

1992: Malice Green (Detroit, MI)

1985: Edmund Perry (New York, NY)

1984: Eleanor Bumpurs (New York, NY)

1983: Michael Stewart (New York, NY)

1981: Ron Settles (Signal Hill, CA)

1979: Eula Love (Los Angeles, CA)

1969: Mark Clark (Chicago, IL)

1969: Fred Hampton (Chicago, IL)

1964: James Powell (New York, NY)

Man, I love how you quote twitter, that must be the most reliable new source ever?
 
13254668:k-rob said:
maybe shooting unarmed kids in the street might be a factor in unrest? also do you even look at anything i post? white people riot over football games all the time and nobody says shit.

Gonna need a source on that buddy.
 
13254668:k-rob said:
maybe shooting unarmed kids in the street might be a factor in unrest? also do you even look at anything i post? white people riot over football games all the time and nobody says shit.

Are you saying its only white people rioting over football games? Isn't that a racist idea?
 
13255812:k-rob said:
you know full well that if the police were killing people they wouldn't just say so, but at least 2 witnesses have been found dead since November, one shot and burned in his car, Deandre Joshua, and one found dead in a channel named Shawn Gray (manner and cause of death pending autopsy).

who's instigating who is entirely up to personal opinion at this point, but seeing as how the cops showed up to peaceful protests wearing riot gear and firing weapons, i'm going with them. also they aren't the ones cleaning up the day after, the citizens are. there is never a good reason to be racist or brutal, especially if you're an armed and trained police officer, so idk how that came out of your head, especially since you already said racist cops aren't a problem.

"Peaceful protest" is what you call burning cars, business buildings, hurting bystanders? Where are you from again? Are you bringing conspiracy into this? Cuz it sounds like you are. I am sorry man, but saying that cops are being racist in a primarily black area if the country just doesn't make sense. It's a police officers abuse of power that is happening here.
 
13259666:J.D. said:
But after getting some more info, and watching the thing closely, with the sound ("I can't breathe" is just chilling) it's pretty clear that they... killed the guy. For no reason. And I think any reasonable person of any race who HAS taken the time to look at the facts there probably agrees.

the timing on this shit was pretty perfect. right after Bill O'Reilly said "wait, that's fucked up."
 
13261279:gnarballsianm said:
Are you saying its only white people rioting over football games? Isn't that a racist idea?

No. It's not. You should probably figure out what racism is before you post again.
 
13261919:k-rob said:
the timing on this shit was pretty perfect. right after Bill O'Reilly said "wait, that's fucked up."

The guy was

A. Morbidly obese

B. A career criminal

Both of those should be reason enough for him to be killed.
 
13262105:californiagrown said:
The guy was

A. Morbidly obese

B. A career criminal

Both of those should be reason enough for him to be killed.

What a fucked up thing to post. You should have a chance to lose weight first before being killed. Fat people are useless pieces of shit that do nothing but drain our economy and our natural resources. Even the bible is against fat people. The only people who are fine with fat people are other fat people.
 
13262105:californiagrown said:
The guy was

A. Morbidly obese

B. A career criminal

Both of those should be reason enough for him to be killed.

a. non-violent offender

b. supporting a family

go scare some more little kids
 
also you guys kind of hurt the argument of it not being a cold-blooded murder when you suggest that's the kind of action you would have taken. like, according to this forum, about 90% of NS would kill a man for no reason, but a cop who breaks protocol and training and ignores pleas for restraint is not capable of such thoughts? sure. keep talking in circles, trying to justify people's murders with irrelevant information, it makes everything i'm saying pretty fucking evident. what's to prevent shitheads like you trolls from becoming shitty cops? not much.
 
13262257:k-rob said:
also you guys kind of hurt the argument of it not being a cold-blooded murder when you suggest that's the kind of action you would have taken. like, according to this forum, about 90% of NS would kill a man for no reason, but a cop who breaks protocol and training and ignores pleas for restraint is not capable of such thoughts? sure. keep talking in circles, trying to justify people's murders with irrelevant information, it makes everything i'm saying pretty fucking evident. what's to prevent shitheads like you trolls from becoming shitty cops? not much.

90% of NS has been suckling on the fox news teet for too long...
 
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