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GolfingElephant

GolfingElephant

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Are any of you members of greek life on your campus? If so, rep your letters here. If you're not a member I'm interested to know why and what your opinions on the greek community in general are. So lets hear it NS, any greeks out there?
 
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Theta Chi Till I die. I like to think I'm not a tool. I feel that when I joined Greek Life a lot of doors to opportunities opened up, as well as social circles opened up. I would recommend it to people, but it really has to depend on who you are as an individual and whether or not you like the idea of becoming Greek and committing so much time and effort into an organization. It certainly isn't for everyone, but I always thought of it as a type of second family. Always being able to rely on your fellow brothers that have your back through thick and thin and are able to say things like they are. Like a type of reality check when it is needed.
 
I've graduated college, but the general consensus among my friends and I were that they were tools. I also never understood paying money to have friends and throw parties. I had free friends and we threw free parties with kegs (whereas the frats charged money to get into their parties, if they let guys in at all). I also had no desire to degrade myself in order to have friends.

Networking yada yada, I don't care I have a good job and I didn't need any frat connections to get it.
 
History and the search bar prove that these types of threads don't go over so well on Newschoolers. And for good reason.
 
My actual brother was in a Frat, Beta Theta Pi. I hangout and party with all his brothers and they are super chill and fun. Gave me the idea that frats could be cool and not all tools.

When I came to college I figured it was worth checking out, and I found that the frats at my University were all a big joke. Just a bunch of goon kids that perpetuated the "frat" lifestyle. They were massive self centered tools and put themselves above other people because they wore those letters. Plus their parties were absolute shit.

But all in all I view the greek community as a bunch of goons that feel the need to be accepted so they join this form of club. Then again I'm just a GDI.
 
13380579:Funkadelic said:
I've graduated college, but the general consensus among my friends and I were that they were tools. I also never understood paying money to have friends and throw parties. I had free friends and we threw free parties with kegs (whereas the frats charged money to get into their parties, if they let guys in at all). I also had no desire to degrade myself in order to have friends.

Networking yada yada, I don't care I have a good job and I didn't need any frat connections to get it.
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Free parties as in you paid for alcohol and gave it to everyone? Typically, when I'm home in the summer and hangout with high school friends (mostly at UVM), someone will go to the liquor store, get kegs/handles/whatever, and then we all split the cost so that he isn't out $100+. The alternative is to do a rotation. Social dues for greek life (many clubs do this as well, at least at my school) essentially is just a more organized way of doing this. Everyone pays once (typically at the start of the semester), and then this money is pooled and used to plan parties for the entire semester. Renting out a bar for example, can cost $1000+, more if you want open bar. So instead of everyone paying $5 at one party, and $20+ at bar events, we pay once. Not all dues are social, some cover things like living in the house, or even meal plans. Also, some people can't afford dues, but they are not excluded. There are a number of opportunities for them to contribute in other ways, or exceptions can be made for certain situations.

As far as opening parties, the general mentality is that if you paid for it, why would you give it away for free? If a party is organized between two groups, it can also be seen as disrespectful to open it to anyone.

I'm not gonna lie, certain people can be tools, but this is not exclusive to greek life. Take any large group of males, get them drunk, and you are bound to see a few bad apples. The exclusivity can also quickly lead to elitist attitudes. I think that in many situations though, greek life is simply the larger social presence (compared to sports/clubs), and therefore you will see more tools.

As far as the last part, the stories you hear on the news are sometimes blown out of proportion, and they represent a minority. I personally was never forced to do anything I would consider degrading, but I do know it exists in some places. It also exists among sports teams and other clubs. For example, a student in Florida was killed as a direct result of hazing done by the band a few years ago.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/famu-hazing-band/

As far as networking, good for you on getting a job. Networking isn't a requirement for a job, but it can be very helpful in certain situations, and I would never say that having more employment opportunities or even connections is a bad thing.

You do make fair points, and every school is different, but a lot of the time a few bad apples can give the whole system a bad name. I acknowledge that these bad apples still exist, but I don't think its fair to generalize on the actions of a few.
 
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Free parties as in you paid for alcohol and gave it to everyone? Typically, when I'm home in the summer and hangout with high school friends (mostly at UVM), someone will go to the liquor store, get kegs/handles/whatever, and then we all split the cost so that he isn't out $100+. The alternative is to do a rotation. Social dues for greek life (many clubs do this as well, at least at my school) essentially is just a more organized way of doing this. Everyone pays once (typically at the start of the semester), and then this money is pooled and used to plan parties for the entire semester. Renting out a bar for example, can cost $1000+, more if you want open bar. So instead of everyone paying $5 at one party, and $20+ at bar events, we pay once. Not all dues are social, some cover things like living in the house, or even meal plans. Also, some people can't afford dues, but they are not excluded. There are a number of opportunities for them to contribute in other ways, or exceptions can be made for certain situations.

As far as opening parties, the general mentality is that if you paid for it, why would you give it away for free? If a party is organized between two groups, it can also be seen as disrespectful to open it to anyone.

I'm not gonna lie, certain people can be tools, but this is not exclusive to greek life. Take any large group of males, get them drunk, and you are bound to see a few bad apples. The exclusivity can also quickly lead to elitist attitudes. I think that in many situations though, greek life is simply the larger social presence (compared to sports/clubs), and therefore you will see more tools.

As far as the last part, the stories you hear on the news are sometimes blown out of proportion, and they represent a minority. I personally was never forced to do anything I would consider degrading, but I do know it exists in some places. It also exists among sports teams and other clubs. For example, a student in Florida was killed as a direct result of hazing done by the band a few years ago.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/famu-hazing-band/

As far as networking, good for you on getting a job. Networking isn't a requirement for a job, but it can be very helpful in certain situations, and I would never say that having more employment opportunities or even connections is a bad thing.

You do make fair points, and every school is different, but a lot of the time a few bad apples can give the whole system a bad name. I acknowledge that these bad apples still exist, but I don't think its fair to generalize on the actions of a few.
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Yeah I mean a bunch of us would chip in for a couple of kegs (which didn't cost that much per person when it's keystone) and invite anyone that wanted to come to our parties. We'd put a little donation box above the kegs if anyone felt inclined to donate to the cause.

When we were feshmen my friends and I thought the whole exclusivity thing with frats was dumb so we decided when we were upper classmen we would throw huge parties and let anyone come and not charge. That's what college is all about. We'd advertise the heck out of it on Facebook and tons of people would show up. I met a lot of awesome people doing that.

And yeah I mean I networked to get my job. I had an internship and got a job through people I've met with that. I just said that because a lot of Greek life people claim that the networking through frats is this amazing wonderland of available jobs and is a requirement to be successful. I was just saying that it's definitely not the holy grail some people make it out to be.

I remember a friend of mine coming back from class and saying a guy he was friendly with in a class asked him what frat he was in. My friend said he wasn't in one and the guy asked what he does on weekends. He started out as a cool kid and then showed his elitist self implying all of is GDIs sit around and twiddle our thumbs on weekends
 
13380664:Funkadelic said:
Yeah I mean a bunch of us would chip in for a couple of kegs (which didn't cost that much per person when it's keystone) and invite anyone that wanted to come to our parties. We'd put a little donation box above the kegs if anyone felt inclined to donate to the cause.

When we were feshmen my friends and I thought the whole exclusivity thing with frats was dumb so we decided when we were upper classmen we would throw huge parties and let anyone come and not charge. That's what college is all about. We'd advertise the heck out of it on Facebook and tons of people would show up. I met a lot of awesome people doing that.

And yeah I mean I networked to get my job. I had an internship and got a job through people I've met with that. I just said that because a lot of Greek life people claim that the networking through frats is this amazing wonderland of available jobs and is a requirement to be successful. I was just saying that it's definitely not the holy grail some people make it out to be.

I remember a friend of mine coming back from class and saying a guy he was friendly with in a class asked him what frat he was in. My friend said he wasn't in one and the guy asked what he does on weekends. He started out as a cool kid and then showed his elitist self implying all of is GDIs sit around and twiddle our thumbs on weekends
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As far as opening parties, another part is that it is a huge risk. Anything that happens either in the house or as a result is your fault. Most schools require that parties be registered, so you have a closed list. Serving to a minor or having an unregistered event can get your house kicked off. So if the event is unregistered, underage people can be served, nut the party needs to stay closed. If every freshmen comes, many don't know their limits or how to drink, and thy have no loyalty to an organization they aren't apart of. They talk, trying to get out of trouble when they are picked up by campus PD, and then the whole organization can be gone. Another big part I forgot to post earlier.

I'm sure those parties were fun, my friends at UVM do that, and sometimes I'll even have an extra/different week of break where I get to go. Always a god time, and a little bit different atmosphere (but that could easily be because of different schools). I'm sure that from the earlier paragraph you can see why advertising a party on facebook is essentially suicide for an organization recognized by your university.

As far as the GDI/what do you do for fun thing, remember that all most guys have to compare to the social scene is from before they were in a fraternity and got turned away from every party. Also, at some schools, if you aren't in greek life, on a sports team, or in a major club, your social options are limited to the bar scene, or hosting your own parties. At smaller schools with less bars, it is also harder to get in (some here have a list from the school, other take fakes, or sometime at least), and the population that likes to party and isn't involved with a major club/sport/greek life is very small.

Agreed on the networking. I have networked with some family friends and gotten lucky there, but to some people (I think finance majors in particular), it can be the difference between getting the job or not, or even being seen for an interview. It's one more connection, and by no means is it a free ride, but it is a huge benefit to some.
 
I started a frat to play intramural sports. And I succeeded. I was playing at least 4 games a week in various sports. The parties were cool and all that shit. But most of the sorority girls were bitches and we hung out with non sorority girls anyway.

Being that we started our own and were founding fathers we had no hazing, no tradition to follow, we made our own. I wouldnt have joined a frat if not for that opportunity. I wasn't about to buy into anyone else's bullshit and get hazed.

It was fun and Id do it again. But this time Id care less about my "brothers" and do more.
 
topic:GolfingElephant said:
If you're not a member I'm interested to know why
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Cause frats are lame as shit. I'd rather be out skiing than fingering my future "brothers" asshole just to get into a frat
 
Frats also cause a lot of guys to become numb to sexual assault. I'm not the kind of person to preach, but I've seen it WAY too many times being around frats, and I go to one of the least greek central big schools out there. I can't imagine what it would be like at some of the schools with huge greek cultures.
 
13380567:GregFlik said:
It certainly isn't for everyone, but I always thought of it as a type of second family. Always being able to rely on your fellow brothers that have your back through thick and thin and are able to say things like they are. Like a type of reality check when it is needed.
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I rely on my friends and family and don't pay to have them
 
Does anyone here go to a school with a massive greek culture? For instance I attend the University of South Carolina and we have fraternities in upwards of 140 members and sororities into the 400's. Greek life here is the driving force of campus life other than the football team.
 
^ That. I go to a large New England state school and the Greek Life from what it seems is dismal. A couple houses on campus look sick, but most of the members seem to be uber jersey/ny tryhard bros. That said, if I went to a school were greek life dominated like at a SEC or a big 10 school, then I would definitely be a part of it. Also the best party i've been to was at a UVM frat a few years ago..absolute banger and everyone was pretty chill and there were babes everywhere
 
13380978:All_Alpine said:
I rely on my friends and family and don't pay to have them
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I wasn't insinuating you can only have one or the other. I'm sure for some people, need only family and a few tightly knit friends, but let me ask you this, what made you become friends with the people that you did? Like minded stance on some issues? Maybe the same likes and dislikes? That essentially is what my brothers are to me. A bunch of great friends that I have share the same views on several things and enjoy the same activities.

And there are people that mention the argument of conforming to others, or paying for friends. That isn't the case at all. We would invest our money into the charter in the form of Dues, or a amount of money that was due every month or semester, and use that money on the house or activities for the brothers. Parties that are thrown use that money, repairs on the house use that money, trips and philanthropy set ups use that money that we all pooled together.

Like I said before, it isn't for everyone. I enjoyed my time in and don't regret it at all. I've made friendships and memories that will last a life time and really grew a lot as a person in the Fraternity.
 
I'm a brother of Phi Kappa Tau at a well known engineering school in New England. I never saw myself going greek when I was in high school but ultimately it's a decision I'm happy I made. Due to the fact my school is big on engineering the social scene is relatively dismal if you're not Greek or on a sports team. It's been an amazing way to meet new people, explore different types of leadership roles and build a resume. The parties you get access to are also phenomenal and if you're not Greek you'll never understand.

Some of you here bitch and moan about Greeks being tools and shitheads and you do have a point. The kids who go Greek at many state schools are shitheads and don't represent the values of a Greek organization well. THere's more to being greek than getting shitfaced every weekend. My chapter actively organizes philanthropic and community service events to give back to the community and the school. Does your club or even yourself take the initiative to give back?

There's no difference between paying to be part of a "Ski Team/Club" and a greek organization. You don't pay for friends. You pay for housing, beverages and the other privileges that come with being Greek. I pay close to 1000 a year, and I have a job as do many of my brothers. The money that we put into dues goes into many things for us. We get formal events, kick ass parties with sororities and other fun events, including subsidized trips skiing and stuff like that.

To the networking thing, alumn will often times contact us first when looking to fill entry level positions and so forth as they know we work hard. All of our brothers graduate with at least one paid internship in part due to the fact alumn help us out.

One last note, many of your gripes seem to be about not getting let into parties or getting charged at the door for a party. A huge part of not getting let in is that random guys are a massive risk to us and that we don't want you there as we cant hold you accountable for your actions whether it be smashing a window or starting a fight. Girls are already enough of a risk. The other thing is, if there are 50 guys at a party, and 50 girls, and the venue only holds around 120 people max comfortably, why should we let you in?

Got any serious questions?

Post them here.
 
13381070:GregFlik said:
I wasn't insinuating you can only have one or the other. I'm sure for some people, need only family and a few tightly knit friends, but let me ask you this, what made you become friends with the people that you did? Like minded stance on some issues? Maybe the same likes and dislikes? That essentially is what my brothers are to me. A bunch of great friends that I have share the same views on several things and enjoy the same activities.

And there are people that mention the argument of conforming to others, or paying for friends. That isn't the case at all. We would invest our money into the charter in the form of Dues, or a amount of money that was due every month or semester, and use that money on the house or activities for the brothers. Parties that are thrown use that money, repairs on the house use that money, trips and philanthropy set ups use that money that we all pooled together.

Like I said before, it isn't for everyone. I enjoyed my time in and don't regret it at all. I've made friendships and memories that will last a life time and really grew a lot as a person in the Fraternity.
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To each there own. I went to a school half a country away from home, so naturally I'm looking to meet new people. Was invited to several pledge meetings and realized it wasn't my thing to be in an overcrowded house with people who all shared the same thoughts/opinions as I had in high school.
 
13381107:Ralph_Swaggum said:
My chapter actively organizes philanthropic and community service events to give back to the community and the school. Does your club or even yourself take the initiative to give back?
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If an organization does charity but doesn't rub it in everyone's face, does it really happen?
 
13381247:lIllI said:
If an organization does charity but doesn't rub it in everyone's face, does it really happen?
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serious answer, it's campus presence. With all the idiots wearing Greek letters and the whole rape claim at UVA some administrations are looking to get rid of problems that dont exist. Greeks tend to do a pretty good job at self policing. For example it's incredibly rare for a chapter to start to paddle pledges and everyone now just thinks that it's kinda super gay. If greeks were to find out another organization on campus was pulling that shit, and administration didnt know we'd handle it off the books
 
I'm Pi Beta Phi Montana Alpha

My sisters are seriously the greatest group of girls I've met, and have helped me thru soooo much, I really think if it's smaller (like it is at my school) it's something everyone should give a shot.
 
13381504:Ralph_Swaggum said:
serious answer, it's campus presence. With all the idiots wearing Greek letters and the whole rape claim at UVA some administrations are looking to get rid of problems that dont exist. Greeks tend to do a pretty good job at self policing.
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You're a tool.
 
thought this was gonna be a thread about the country and i was gonna ask you what it was like living in a 3rd world country
 
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Thought this thread was about the geeks of ns so i wanted to beat them all up. Now i know its about frat boys and i really want to beat them all up
 
Anyone who rooms with a friend or two in college, pays for friends just as much as a frat bro. Its the same thing.

No one can make an accurate blanket assesment of all greek life because it is so diffrent house to house and campus to campus. If your are into it, cool, if not, cool.

I enjoyed a lot of aspects of greek life and i hated a lot of aspects. Anyone who judges me because of some greek letters can lick the dark park of my asshole and fuck off.

The networking opportunities are incredibly overrated. but thats the nature of college networking in general.
 
I thought about it at CU but decided I didn't want to waste time going to meetings and pledging when I could be skiing. There is also a good amount of try-hard bro kids in the fraternities so overall I'm definitely happy I didn't join
 
i was sigma chi at villanova. it was one of the better decisions i've made in my life. greek life is one of those things that looks awful from the outside in, and is impossible to explain from the inside to the outsiders. i just recommend you give rush a shot. not every fraternity is full of douchers who drug girls. sure, those exist, but there are TONS of fraternities that are just normal dudes.
 
I'm in the greek system at the University of Washington. The Greek system is a decent size here, but it doesn't dominate campus. There aren't a ton of big parties outside the greek system, but partying isn't why I joined. I barely drink or party at all anymore. I lived in the dorms for a little bit, and they were terrible. Most of the people in my dorm were international students who only talked to other students of the same nationality, or just generally anti-social. So I joined a fraternity. From the outside the Greek system looks pretty fucked up, but joining a fraternity was the best decision I've made. My grades are way better and I have more motivation than ever. If I went to a different school I doubt I would have joined a fraternity, but at UW the greek system isn't a bunch of stereotypical frat douchebags. UW is a very liberal school and the diversity of the student body is definitely reflected in the membership of the GS.

I understand the hate towards the Greek system these days, but I'd advise you guys to criticize individual members of the Greek system, not the system itself. I didn't have to go through any fucked up hazing or have any of the experiences that make the GS seem problematic. When the members of a Greek organization inline with the actual mission of the organization the system works beautifully; when it's filled with douchebags it's pretty shitty.
 
13384003:MACAQUE said:
I understand the hate towards the Greek system these days, but I'd advise you guys to criticize individual members of the Greek system, not the system itself. I didn't have to go through any fucked up hazing or have any of the experiences that make the GS seem problematic. When the members of a Greek organization inline with the actual mission of the organization the system works beautifully; when it's filled with douchebags it's pretty shitty.
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This. For the most part, at least from what I've experienced, fraternities aren't fucked up and full of total douche bags. I pledged one for a while and it wasn't too bad, just not how I wanted to spend my time. I also felt like part of the beauty of college was to get out and be somebody outside of the social constructs that formerly existed in high school. Getting into greek life kinda just felt like just resubmitting to that whole thing again. I guess I was just tired of being told who to be if that makes sense.

It's fun to make jokes about greek life but the people who actually hate on it look just as stupid as the frat guy saying "fucking geeds!"
 
There are some nice people in frats but the majority of them are egotistical tools. Two of my best friends are in frats and they have changed for the worst. So much so that they have acquired a Jason Aldean accent.

My idea of a good night is smoking a few cigs, closing the curtains and watching reruns of 16 and pregnant.
 
I go to the University of Alabama where Greek life has caused an extreme amount of problems. Just look on Google. The greeks are extremely racist and stuck up. I'm an athlete so I'm not allowed to join a Greek organization but I cannot stand them. I'm sure else where it's not as much of an issue, but with as large as the Greek system is here, it's a pain in the ass. For example, Here is one of the houses on campus.
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It cost $10+ million and is 27,000 square feet. All of the houses are similar in size too. It's ridiculous. Paying $4,000-$7,000 a semester to be in a fraternity does not warrant being a douche. That's more than tuition. Bottom line, I have a very bad perception of Greeks, but I have solid reasoning for having it.

tl;dr: Greeks are douches that think way too highly of themselves.
 
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$4,000-$7,000 a semester
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Thats absolutely absurd. I think I was paying $300 a semester in dues (beer+scholarships) and rent to live in the house was $270 a month. My school has a very different feel to the Greek system though, since we're a smaller engineering school. Didn't see much exclusivity, no real "rivalry" between orgs, and a lot of the Greeks were athletes as well. I have been to a few larger schools to hang out and def. where some of you are coming from with the douche orgs though.
 
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