F$@k On3p And Jake Doan terrible Business and Team Rider/ Seller

A poor 17 year high schooler. As if everyone on NS is so old. I think is about 3 years younger than me, and I don't even feel old enough for the age callout deal at 27.

You're less than a year from being considered an adult. Everybody makes mistakes, but you have to figure out how to manage this shit at some point OP.

Shockingly, you won't get everything your way in life, especially if you're a douche about it.

If you don't want the skis sell them to somebody. Everybody isn't ganging up on your to pick on you and rip you off. For the most part NS is pretty damn legit. For the future, whether or not you still feel like you got wronged, take it as a lesson. learn things from it. Try to avoid a similar situation in the future.

Next time think "Is there a better way I could approach this?" before making a thread like that. Regardless of what you decide, it never hurts to be nice too.
 
Hey ON3P my Pipe Cleaners are starting to delam. What gives??? You should probably send me free skis. Oh and cut Jake Doan too. Not really sure what he did, but I'm sure it's his fault.
 
13756150:_salty_ said:
I wanted to make sure I got heard by on3p and jake and I did.
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The creation of this thread was your first attempt in at least 3 months to "be heard." Get the fuck off of this website kid, we don't need anymore bullshit on this website.
 
13755609:_salty_ said:
Also asking a company for some accountability when some one who is paid by them to represent their brand goes and does something bad is not bitching at them it's stating the facts. Also I did not ask any thing of on3p I have no idea where you are getting that from?
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You are asking ON3P to do something about a small private sale they have basically nothing to do with, and you are shitting all over their name because of it. You put infinitely more effort into this pity party thread than you did into fixing the small issues you're having.
 
You know I had a similar situation just 2 weekends ago where someone was trying to get money from me when I didn't owe them shit. Literally used the exact same words " what are we going to do to rectify this situation" sorry I had to chime in and just the way you speak to jake and on3p shows that you just want some new skis
 
13756234:tcurle said:
Ahhhhhhhh shit meant to quote OP. You're not a giant pussy sheath I think you guys are doing a terrific job handling this. (:
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I was gonna say "wait tyler doesnt like me?" i got sad.
 
LOL this could have all been avoided if Jake measured twice haaaaaaaaa

Jake why are u so trigger happy with that drill?? we know this isn't the first time lololol
 
13756138:_salty_ said:
@ On3p I thank you for your response and the phone call it meant a lot.In the end some one who represents your company sold goods not as described to a highschool kid who can barely afford the sport as it is. If your ok with that then so be it, I obviously can't change any thing.

@ Jake I was on the fence about buying the skis at first but I went through with it because I saw a orange name and saw that you were riding for a standup core company. I put my faith in you, I never meant any of the text to be mean I was just calling it how I saw it from my perspective.Also I want you to know im still up for a compromise on this issue.

@ both: I am sorry about the title if I could go back and change that I would. As you can imagine with the christmas season being here and having a big chunk of change missing from my pockets it really hurt not being able to get stuff I wanted.
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This post reveals a high level of immaturity. I guess I can't be surprised given your age, I was pretty childish when I was 17.

One thing I will caution you on is complaining about resale value when you have gotten seriously hooked up. I lived in the mountains for a few years after college and if the OP tried to pull this stuff in Tahoe it would not be looked upon favorably. Mountain towns are pretty small communities and when someone is not appreciative of a bro-deal that gets around. I remember a situation where a guy I knew got some skis mounted for a twelve pack. This happens sometimes in ski towns, but if you don't have a connection to a shop or are not a local forget about it. The guy ended up complaining when the skis were not ready the next morning. I don't think he got anymore bro mounts. The OP needs to change his tune if he intends to live in a ski town.
 
13756496:.lencon said:
I think were gonna need pics of "Elizabeth" to fully understand the situation and to come to an agreement.
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hey now, lets keep the mothers/sisters/significant others out of this one.
 
13755607:tallteesteeze said:
original thread:
https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/826553/FS--181-ON3P-Jeffery---181-Prester-w-fks-140-s
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13755644:Mingg said:
From the Original Thread:

"-mounted once for a 27.5 full tilt at 2cm back, and one ski was mounted twice by accident but the holes were filled right away and never skied on."

/thread
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I bought these Jeffery's from Jake and it was by far the easiest transaction I have ever made on NS. The tech at my shop mounted my bindings in Jake's original mount and I was one happy camper. Never had any problems with the skis and they were shipped super fast (3 days?)

Eventually I decided that they were too short for me, so I sold them for LESS than what I bought them for. Less, not more, salty... cheeky cunt.
 
13755717:californiagrown said:
So you want a refund because you didn't read the sellers description well?

And now you feel it is prudent to try and intentionally cost a company sales because you are getting emotional about a mistake you made.

How in gods name is on3p at all responsible for this? Why the fuck did you drag their name through the mud?

You are such an entitled little bitch. Fucking Christ you are dumb too.
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Couldn't agree more....why is on3p responsible for anything xD
 
13756138:_salty_ said:
As you can imagine with the christmas season being here and having a big chunk of change missing from my pockets it really hurt not being able to get stuff I wanted.
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Are you kidding? Getting a sick deal from a team rider IS NOT an investment. You bought the skis to ride, didn't you? you can still ski them, nobody is holding you back.

Also life is tough sometimes, and this is a great lesson; You cant always get what you want. You buy something now, you cant afford something else later. That's life.
 
This is the best thread I've seen on NS in a long time.

Also, OP should thank everything that's good and holy that he didn't make this kind of thread over at TGR. THAT would have been ruthless.

OP - I hope you learned some valuable lessons about buying stuff online, the ski community, gratitude and learning to appreciate when someone hooks you up. It doesn't really seem like it, but hopefully something will stick.
 
This thread makes me want a pair of on3ps.

Great marketing ploy, on3p, I see right through you.
 
13757101:saskskier said:
This is the best thread I've seen on NS in a long time.

Also, OP should thank everything that's good and holy that he didn't make this kind of thread over at TGR. THAT would have been ruthless.

OP - I hope you learned some valuable lessons about buying stuff online, the ski community, gratitude and learning to appreciate when someone hooks you up. It doesn't really seem like it, but hopefully something will stick.
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as a maggot with 10k of posts i can assure you the #1 response will be

who the fuck is jake doan?

much like who the fuck is tammy wallnuts? in your steezy barbie dressup tall t thread

followed by requests for pics of elizebeths ta tas

you should start a butthurt jerry jabroni callout forum and make this thread a stickey
 
I love the first post "grab some popcorn and sit back" _salty_ is getting pwnt by his own juvenile lust to make a quick profit. yeah buddy I see you lowered your sale price in the other thread $185 this weekend only? how about $185 because your an idiot. and bringing on3p in on this... haha guess what?! "mommy on3p" doesn't care what Jake does, those skis are part of his pay package, does your boss care what you do with your pay? didn't think so. next time read the goddamn sale thread like your making a $300 dollar investment. as it was mentioned. and know your resale credibility on this site has taken a serious nose dive.
 
The most important thing that needs to be cleared up here is the misinformation about remounting bindings.

1. It does not feasibly matter if the drilled holes were mounted or not. Holes compromise the ski regardless.

2. _salty_ couldn't use the skis as is because his boots didn't fit. He needed to remount and these existing unmentioned holes could very well be a problem.

3. Just because FKS hole patterns are narrow does not make this less of an issue. Skis break across the middle. Lining up holes side to side makes this plane weaker. The fact that there is limited flex under a binding (if thats where these holes end up) is the only reconciliation.

4. Plugging holes (with glue) right away helps because it prevents moisture coming in and weakening the core.

5. Not listing all the mounts is one of the worst moves to do as a seller. _salty_ received a product that was significantly different than advertised. A refund should have been offered no matter how good the seller thought the deal was.

6. Trying to flip skis for more than you paid on NS, while not advertising the defect that you are so concerned about is the absolute shittiest move to do as a seller. Right or wrong, it makes everyone lose sympathy for you.
 
13757168:hemlockjibber8 said:
The most important thing that needs to be cleared up here is the misinformation about remounting bindings.

1. It does not feasibly matter if the drilled holes were mounted or not. Holes compromise the ski regardless.

2. _salty_ couldn't use the skis as is because his boots didn't fit. He needed to remount and these existing unmentioned holes could very well be a problem.

3. Just because FKS hole patterns are narrow does not make this less of an issue. Skis break across the middle. Lining up holes side to side makes this plane weaker. The fact that there is limited flex under a binding (if thats where these holes end up) is the only reconciliation.

4. Plugging holes (with glue) right away helps because it prevents moisture coming in and weakening the core.

5. Not listing all the mounts is one of the worst moves to do as a seller. _salty_ received a product that was significantly different than advertised. A refund should have been offered no matter how good the seller thought the deal was.

6. Trying to flip skis for more than you paid on NS, while not advertising the defect that you are so concerned about is the absolute shittiest move to do as a seller. Right or wrong, it makes everyone lose sympathy for you.
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Lol yeah I was shaking my head at the, 'I never put screws in the holes' argument they were trying to float. It's not a second mount because I didn't technically mount bindings there and ski them? Nice try.

The fact that he actually went to ON3P to bitch about it and then on here with this ridiculous thread is just straight up hilarious though. You can't make this stuff up.
 
13757175:Casey said:
Lol yeah I was shaking my head at the, 'I never put screws in the holes' argument they were trying to float. It's not a second mount because I didn't technically mount bindings there and ski them? Nice try.

The fact that he actually went to ON3P to bitch about it and then on here with this ridiculous thread is just straight up hilarious though. You can't make this stuff up.
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True. But you have to feel his pain. I thought his initial conversations were actually quite well worded and Doan was either brushing him off or is completely ignorant to mounting skis.
 
13757124:SFBv420.0 said:
as a maggot with 10k of posts i can assure you the #1 response will be

who the fuck is jake doan?

much like who the fuck is tammy wallnuts? in your steezy barbie dressup tall t thread

followed by requests for pics of elizebeths ta tas

you should start a butthurt jerry jabroni callout forum and make this thread a stickey
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This is so true. TGR would have the slightest clue who jake is. But they would rip him apart for the other things
 
13757168:hemlockjibber8 said:
The most important thing that needs to be cleared up here is the misinformation about remounting bindings.

1. It does not feasibly matter if the drilled holes were mounted or not. Holes compromise the ski regardless.

2. _salty_ couldn't use the skis as is because his boots didn't fit. He needed to remount and these existing unmentioned holes could very well be a problem.

3. Just because FKS hole patterns are narrow does not make this less of an issue. Skis break across the middle. Lining up holes side to side makes this plane weaker. The fact that there is limited flex under a binding (if thats where these holes end up) is the only reconciliation.

4. Plugging holes (with glue) right away helps because it prevents moisture coming in and weakening the core.

5. Not listing all the mounts is one of the worst moves to do as a seller. _salty_ received a product that was significantly different than advertised. A refund should have been offered no matter how good the seller thought the deal was.

6. Trying to flip skis for more than you paid on NS, while not advertising the defect that you are so concerned about is the absolute shittiest move to do as a seller. Right or wrong, it makes everyone lose sympathy for you.
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yeah, i agree with you man. i too think a refund should have been offered. the product was simply not as described. in my opinion, anyone who prides themselves on personal integrity should have reversed the transaction with an apology. obviously, in following, i have never met jake and im sure he's a kind person who just got caught up in an awkward situation - possibly involving family members (which can make shit so much more complicated).

it's easy to shit on a highschool kid who doesn't really know how to handle things in a mature way, and is using arguments that dig himself into a hole, but this situation should never have gotten to this point in the first place. i've been ripped off on NS by a sponsored rider whose videos i watched at the time, and i'm still salty (haha) about it almost 10 years later. not that jake was maliciously ripping the OP off, but i know the feeling of spending $100+ not to get what you thought you were getting.

that said, OP clearly fucked up in several ways that are obvious to everyone (dirtiest of which being #6 in the post i quoted - not fuckin cool man, correct that type of thinking before you grow up). on3p also didn't need to be brought in to this (but i understand trying to find justice as a young person).

it's not my business but it is my opinion that as an adult (jake), i think you should offer _salty_ a refund and sell the skis to someone else who would appreciate the great deal you are offering, as there have been several posts in this thread offering to buy the skis for the same price. i'm sure you'd have em sold within a week.
 
honestly what the fuck OP. it appears to me that you're trying to snitch on someone that has way more credibility than you. i wasted a full 30 minutes of my time reading this entire absurd thread because you sound absolutely ridiculous. you clearly just wanted a fresh pair of skis from ON3P and you don't deserve a damn thing. also from what i saw, doane posted that it technically was mounted twice. how could you miss that?

refer to sale post here:https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/826553/FS--181-ON3P-Jeffery---181-Prester-w-fks-140-s

seems like you dug yourself into a hole, OP....
 
I've never dealt with Jake but I have dealt with Kutcher. Every time has been awesome and I was stoked to get a pair of skis from a great company and a badass skier. Even just emailed him last week about a pair of pow sticks. OP you're a dumbass, Jake made a minor mistake and you blew it THE FUCK up, and then tried to still flip it for a profit. Shame on you
 
13755652:Mingg said:
Also pretty shady to include ON3P in this. You didn't buy from them and their skis aren't the issue. They don't owe you a damn thing and saying they're a terrible business for not giving your entitled ass anything is lame as fuck.
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I believe he did get ripped off because he received some shady ass gear that was not as described. Additionally, it is not shady to include ON3P in this because Jake IS a representative of the company as a sponsor and if Jake isn't taking shit to terms then who else is the OP going to turn to? His employer and partner.

I don't see how he's entitled by any means - however I do agree with you that OP is in no means to call ON3P a terrible business - maybe terrible costumer supporter and training with their sponsors regarding representation of the company.

Lastly, by dealing with kids, especially orange names and reps over Newschoolers, and subsequently such members fuck normal riders (not sponsored - kids like you and me) fucks the legitimacy of B/S/T and NS trading.

Come on Mingg, i thought you would have better insight of NS and park skiing culture in general. /iamdissapoint
 
13757228:.lencon said:
This is so true. TGR would have the slightest clue who jake is. But they would rip him apart for the other things
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while i wont deny that but conversely

you will have a hard time finding most anyone having other than positive things about iggy and his product over there.

mostly cause he handles his presence very professionally as evidenced in this thread

the tgrz is very much a reap what you sow community and we dont give prohoe fanboi passes or colored names

oh and in my 2 decades of shop work most broken core skis are in front of the toe

or tails

and very few mismounts cant be rectified by a competent tech and sum helicoils
 
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