Christian skiers

Oh of course its fucked up morals. But you have to consider this was common place back then and morals aren't objective. I don't think the bible should be revered as highly as it is in society but it is and it has had positive and negative impacts on society. Christians think its the reason for everything good and too many freethinkers pin too many of societies problems on it. It has incited countless numbers of unnecessary deaths and been used by many to justify the unjustifiable but at the same time the Jesus Character has inspired people to go out and do great things whether it be charity, activism, or just being a decent person and it is sweetest when it has been out of a love for the character. I suppose for all practical purposes it was good when it was out of fear of hell fire but the doctrine of hell is why I don't believe the bible is the word of a deity anymore.
 
and if you HONESTLY need a character in a book to inspire you to not be a shitty human being... thats pathetic
 
ok, so lets look at your logic. the bible isnt bad, because somebody else out there is doing something "worse". (worse being in quotes because it all depends on who you ask) therefore, by your flawed logic, beating kids isnt that bad, because some people rape and murder them. am i right? or am i missing something more subtle in your post?

while at one time it may have been more accurate, the bible is drastically at odds with most modern beliefs, as far as word for word translation is concerned.
 
I have stated my opion and I will no longer be posting in this thread in hopes that it will dissapear to the slightly viewed page 2.

In God we Trust
 
AHH QUIT BITCHING ABOUT WHOSE RELIGION (or lack thereof) IS BETTER LISTEN TO THE DUDE JOIN THE CULT OR HAVE A NICE DAYsorry about the caps
 
You must be even thicker than I thought if you can't see a difference between "Ladies Men" and Catholicism.
 
(I was making the point that I was clearly not referring to religious cults...he incorrectly quoted me in his post.)
 
yeah my skis have pictures of hell's army eating people's heads so i would probably be out of the picture for this one
 
For the record, I live in Mammoth and have yet to meet someone between 18 and 30 that goes to church. I have yet to actually meet someone that says they are even christian. Do you ask people if they are? I can't imagine asking someone if what religion they are unless it is deep into the conversation cause otherwise you may not think you are, but you immediately judge them. Hopefully you met someone got into a really good convo and it randomly came up and they introduced you to this group of people. Cause I have yet to discover them.
Not hating or anything.... but your post made it sound like christianity is huge out here... while I believe quite the contrary... STD's are pretty huge though, so is weed and underage drinking.
 
Generally when you pray for snow, you are supposed to be praying to Ullr which is pretty contradictory to the whole monotheistic thing.
 
i went to lighthouse church in mammoth and met people there i would say there is probally 200 people that regularly go there (my girlfriend was working there hence why i went over) most of the Christians i met over there lived in Crowley and bishop. and i agree its not a question i usually ask, i didnt mean to make it sound like everyone from mammoth is christian but i figured 200 people in mammoth there must be a fairly solid base around the industry and the sport for christianity.
 
Of course I picked up the bashing, fuckstick.

Way to try to be the better man Drew. How can you say I'm the one instigating when you openly admit you were bashing my religion? Did I say or do anything to you before that?

And yes, you did misquote me in your first post of the second page.

What are you gonna do? E-fight me? Haha I'm "pushing you." What a joke.
 
You guys need to chill, Drew is just trying to get a response out of you and he clearly got a good one. Engaging in online fights proves nothing except makes both of you look like a bunch of little school girls.
 
now why would you say something like that?

if you read the post your welcome to come in the awesome if not then have a nice day,

if you arent strong enough to go on your merry way with out making some little remark then i feel sorry for you dude, but whatever makes you feel happy.

that only goes for that post all the others making their opinions viewed thats cool i appritiate that your not dicks about it but come have a look if you like and you may like what you see

i hope your 12 years old otherswise you are going to have a shitty time running around making dick comments like that to make yourself feel better.
 
wouldnt it have been the good christian thing to do to just ignore his post, rather than trying to talk down to him while sounding self-righteous?
 
i;m going to go ahead and call you out.

i know you are going to jump on me. i am not trying to air my views, but if you really want to hear them, that is for another post. they will be different than what you expect.

but you have to understand a little about the bible. most of the old testament is jewish law, relevant to the time that they were living in. for instance, shellfish were considered "unclean" because everyone knows that shellfish are 5-star hotels for all kinds of harmful bacteria and deceases. in the 21st century, we have something called technology, that makes it possible to store and prepare shellfish without risking our health. they didn't have refrigerators back then, so it would be beneficial to have a law cautioning against something that would most likely make you sick.

about the first passage that you quoted, slaves were a part of life back then. i am not saying that slavery is alright, but wouldn't you rather be set free after 6 years, or be a slave for life?

about the second half: if your master gives you a wife, it still belongs to him, not you. that was the way things worked back then. we have come along way in the thousands of year since then; just try to view it in regards to the lifestyle they lived.

about the second passages you quoted. i don't have to get biblical, historical, or even intelligent about those. you took it COMPLETELY out of context. that is ignorance at its best. you are warping it to suit your argument. that straight isn't right. if you can't support the argument with straight facts, you have no argument. it is very likely that in context those passages make perfect sense, or again are relevant to the times.

 
no matter how "relevant at the time" any of it was, it is still considered pretty wack now, and yet people cling to everyword like its law, and then make arguments like this. either you follow it or you dont, if you are just picking and choosing the passages that are relevant today, you are basically just exercising common sense and decency, which most non-christians can say about themselves without having to consult a users guide to life
 
SEROUSLY IF YOUR JUST GONNA BE AN ASSHOLE KEEP IT TO YOURSELF THERES NO NEED TO BE A DICK, JUST BECAUSE UR NOT RELIGOUS YOU THINK ITS A JOKE, WELL JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO MORALS OR ANY GOOD BEING IN YOU JUST STAY IN YOUR LITTLE WORLD
 
that is completely true.

the biggest cause of atheism in the world today, is christians.

religion is the downfall of christianity.

 
religion is the downfall to it's own self. I attended a private religious academy for 9 years before going to a non religious high school, and as a 6 year old i recall listening to the parish members reciting prayers and thinking that they sounded like a bunch of brain washed drones. I believe that belief in a higher being is a good thing, it brings people hope in times of despair, i simply believe that people putting a title on it, with rules and restrictions is where it gets all fucked up. Living a good, honest life is the correct path, regardless of whether or not you consult the bible or Koran. Religion just fucks everything up, not to mention all the hypocrisy involved.
 
the idea that anyone could even presume to have even the slightest knowledge of what we are, where we came from, or what we're supposed to do is ridiculous. we know nothing, yet assume everything.

therefore, religion causes it's own problems, and the fact of the matter is that more people would rather associate themselves with a notion of understanding, than the notion of misunderstanding. human nature in itself will continue to uphold religion despite the problems, because humans feel the need to have a protective state of knowledge in all cases. atheism is also a protective state in which we know nothing of the universe(s) and therefore need not worry about our own existence.

safety will be the downfall of humanity, and religion will be the accelerator.
 
one of the greatest arguments concerning religion ive heard, not just in this thread, but anywhere. +k, and a high five for just having some sense.
 
i would delve further into it, but i could seriously write a book about it so you get cliff notes
 
just the cliff notes alone were refreshing, most christians or strongly religious people in general cant accept that you can have the same values and morals as them without sharing a belief that some people just think is silly. not to knock you if you believe in a higher power, i think you know what im trying to say.
 
i realize that, but regardless of how "historically out of context" it is, its still not morally right. and why can you be so selective, interpreting the parts of the bible you want to still follow as true?
 
and a follow up question. do you honestly need the incentive of heaven vs hell to be a good person?
 
Yes, I do. Maybe not the judging part though.

I think you fail to realize, Drew, that your beliefs seem even more militant than mine as you are willing to openly bash those who don't agree with you. I also think you fail to realize that 99% of religious people aren't the crazy "Jesus is my best friend" people.

And no, I (and most religious people) don't need the incentive of heaven and hell to try to be a better person.

I think this is something atheists and a lot of religious people have in common: we try to be better people because we would like to see our surroundings improve, make others feel better about themselves, and leave the world a better place.

 
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