Barak Obama is gonna run for president!

McCain has been disowned by his party and by the funding that usually gets Republicans through primaries, and that's because he won't sign a gay-marriage ban amendment. Sadly enough, unless he's got some secret funds up his sleeves, he won't be able to get through the primaries.
 
man, if FTP was back, he and mountaingrl could have such a great battle.

I'd

sorta think that McCain might be a good choice, but I honestly don't

think he'll get the Republican nom because he's shot the Repubican

party in the foot too many times. Edwards is my bet for the Democrat ticket, and the Republican ticket is still in the air.
 
To get to that level of politics it takes a very sly, cunning, and ruthless person...To get there you have to back stab and step on many people...So if a candidate is all buddy buddy and innocent looking like wow hes a nice guy type...hes just a really good liar...politians are fucking dirt....repub, dem, green party... White, black it doesnt matter
 
How many politicians do you know? I'll expect a solid list of ones that you know personally in which you can vouge for their cunning, ruthless, lying personalities.
 
well its not a guessing game..obviously the majority of people who would vote green would vote democratic as their second choice, its more simliar than voting republican
 
im a political science major. what i meant was that the dems will win because recent elections have proven that the US is getting tired of the republicans. History has proven that when it comes to the presidency the party, if a party is controlling the senate and house of reps they almost always win. People naturally want a government that works so they consistently elect presidents from the same party that are controlling both the house of reps and senate. So you are right, it doesn't mean that they a dems will get the presidency as well but history has consistently proven that thats the case.
 
Well if you must know my mom used to work for george voinovich when he was govenor of ohio still knows him...while he serves as a US senator...my father went to high school and is still close with congressman pat tiberi...

A side from that if you want to act likea 3rd grader and pretend politicians are so nice cuz they kissed u as a baby and hugs smiles all around thats fine...call me when u grow up!!
 
So you spoke with all the ppl who voted for nader and determined if he didnt run how many of the would have still actually voted and which way, then you tallied up the votes and calculated who would have won then right?

If not this conversation is over
 
so because your mommy worked with one crooked politician, they all must be bad eh? I'm not a third grader who is all smiles, I'm just a bit more optimistic about people in general.
 
haha wow, thats fine never called them crococked but hey u keep ur optimism it does wonders i mean obama really cares about u he really does...and i could care less about my mom working for one or knowing n e of them...you asked!!

But hey u know lots about politics cuz ur optimistic ur right they mean everything in their speeches and they certainly dont act n e different behind closed doors and they all got to their position with kindness and honesty boys and girls and we all lived happily ever after the END!!

YEA FOR OPTIMISM
 
so one of the two politicians you know is not lying, sly, and cunning (and therefore, crooked)? So how does that work in your generalization of every politician being corrupt?
 
Ok lets focus and quit putting words in my mouth i said IM not calling THEM croocked meaning all politicians.. I have also never used the word corrupt...My point is politics is just that do and say what needs to be done to look good...in reality they only do things that benefit them...The senator who is bravely fighting insurance companies in mississippi hes such a good guy and cares about those ppl getting their money right? Sure im not sayin hes not but he was one of those whos house was destroyed and his claim was denied by state farm...thus leading him to use his power to fight back and sure some others benefit as well...and i could give you hundreds of other examples but i wouldnt want to fog up ur optimism
 
I like Obama because of all his talk on reforming the government. Getting rid of earmarks on bills and wasteful spending. I still need to hear more before I make my decision. However, I will never vote for clinton. Lying, flip-flopping bitch she is. We need a libertarian president, but unfortunately that won't happen.
 
Well then I apologize for taking this quote of yours, "politians are fucking dirt....repub, dem, green party... White, black it doesnt matter" and taking that as you think politicians are corrupt and bad people. Woops! My mistake.
 
You people are so fucking stupid it's offensive. I used to be able to stand arguing in these things. Now it's just... xtakewar has half a brain, the rest of you are retarded. Some of you don't even understand the concept of a primary, and Mountaingwhatever is a bigoted moron. God I hope none of you can vote.
 
apology accepted i dont look highly on poloticians never said they were corrupt...but they are dirt!! U dont have to agree but there is alot more to politics than meets the eye dont be too optimistic when listening to them!!
 
Dude I'm seriously distressed, the apparent state of affairs is that a libertarian has more common sense than the vast majority of other participants in this conversation. There's something VERY wrong with that.
 
his middle name is hussien and terrorist in Iraq came out saying they want him to be president, but he is also running agianst Hillary's war machine so he doesnt have a chance.
 
WHOA! dude, i NEVER EVER said that...you're putting words in my mouth! how bout you read the whole fucking posts that i wrote and what xtakewarninx wrote. once you do that, get back to me.
 
Does anyone else think that its strange that JDmay knows more about American politics than most of us? He's Canadian. I couldn't even tell you the name of Canada's president (prime minister?)

 
In some instances, it's easier to see the overall picture of another country's government if you're not in it. You can see the whole thing (if you look hard enough and do enough research) without being AS influenced as somebody who is under said government. So no, I don't think it's strange at all.
 
Hate can mean "denoting hostile actions motivated by intense dislike or prejudice" or "having a strong averson to something" so yes, what you said counts as hate.
 
i'm surrounded by idiots. either you just don't get it or you can't read. hatred is a step up from dislike. i don't dislike the people, i have several friends that are muslim and they are very caring people. i just dislike some of the views that they have. that's it.

 
barak hussein obama...haha thats a little scary but he is MUCH better for hilary clinton i think i might assasinate her if she's elected
 
So you "dislike some of the views" of people you know, who happen to have the same religion as Barack Obama's father, who was absent for almost all of his life, and you are so afraid that (despite the fact that he is a very outspoken Christian) his father's religion will have some influence over him, and you are willing to move to Canada because of that. You're right, everone but you is an idiot.
 
i'm done. this is ridiculous. i think you guys really should go back and read what i posted, but really read it. i believe that religion should be in our government to a certain extent, but it is "one nation under God." i never said that i hated or disliked Muslim people, just some of their views on certain subjects. they are a very nice people and they believe very deeply in their religion, i think every religion believes in God. (notice i said God and not god.) it would be like...i dislike some views that the Jews have, or Islamic, or whatever.
 
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