24/25 Gear hype thread!

Did you downsize or get your regular size? I got some in 26.5 and they feel like a mv 27.5 to me. I like how they ski but the power strap is interesting haha. But I’m stoked to see some new brands coming into ski boots it’s good to see things be shaken up a bit.

14590622:tdollo said:
ankle pocket is surprisingly snug and provides a good hold, I have a narrow foot so it definitely isn't a great fit; but compared to other boots of the same last they generally feel tighter. The liner does seem pretty thick however so we'll see how they pack out, but I love how they look and the build quality is awesome.
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14590652:tomPietrowski said:
Did you downsize or get your regular size? I got some in 26.5 and they feel like a mv 27.5 to me. I like how they ski but the power strap is interesting haha. But I’m stoked to see some new brands coming into ski boots it’s good to see things be shaken up a bit.
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i typically run a low volume 26.5, so I did downsize which does help. The power strap is comically large and looks a bit goofy but we will see how they ride!
 
Yeah I think most people may want to downsize. I thought they ski pretty well really. I used to ski the spk so the lower shell felt really familiar. The forward lean is a lot more forward compared to the spk to me it felt like they took the lower of the spk and mated it with the forward lean of a full tilt which is not a bad thing really. I think as a park boot they are great. Lack of a boot board or heel shock absorber is a downside but overall I thought they were good. And they look awesome can’t go wrong with all black.

14590668:tdollo said:
i typically run a low volume 26.5, so I did downsize which does help. The power strap is comically large and looks a bit goofy but we will see how they ride!
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14590533:tdollo said:
Gonna gives these a go in the next few days. Liner quality is sweet and the stock footbed is moldable

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does the boot have one of these grids on it?

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just interested in who is making the shell
 
14590675:tomPietrowski said:
Yeah I think most people may want to downsize. I thought they ski pretty well really. I used to ski the spk so the lower shell felt really familiar. The forward lean is a lot more forward compared to the spk to me it felt like they took the lower of the spk and mated it with the forward lean of a full tilt which is not a bad thing really. I think as a park boot they are great. Lack of a boot board or heel shock absorber is a downside but overall I thought they were good. And they look awesome can’t go wrong with all black.
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Hey Tom, I work for phaenom footwear. On our ski boots, the boot board is integrated into the liner's outsole and provides shock absorption. However, if you need to adjust volume, you can grind down that sole. Additionally, we will offer boot boards in case people want to ski with their custom liners. The forward lean is set at 15° and can be changed to 13° or 17° with the provided additional flip chips.

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14593020:swabianexpert711 said:
Hey Tom, I work for phaenom footwear. On our ski boots, the boot board is integrated into the liner's outsole and provides shock absorption. However, if you need to adjust volume, you can grind down that sole. Additionally, we will offer boot boards in case people want to ski with their custom liners. The forward lean is set at 15° and can be changed to 13° or 17° with the provided additional flip chips.

**This post was edited on Feb 23rd 2024 at 5:02:43am
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Boot boards from factory? As in, could you order without a liner if that is the intended purpose of offering the board separately?
 
14593020:swabianexpert711 said:
Hey Tom, I work for phaenom footwear. On our ski boots, the boot board is integrated into the liner's outsole and provides shock absorption. However, if you need to adjust volume, you can grind down that sole. Additionally, we will offer boot boards in case people want to ski with their custom liners. The forward lean is set at 15° and can be changed to 13° or 17° with the provided additional flip chips.

**This post was edited on Feb 23rd 2024 at 5:02:43am
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when can we buy the boot in usa?
 
14593026:chimpansteeze said:
Boot boards from factory? As in, could you order without a liner if that is the intended purpose of offering the board separately?
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Yes, bootboards from factory will be offered. However to reduce complexity in the first year we won’t offer boots without liner.
 
[tag=134699]@onenerdykid[/tag] I know bindings aren't your department but I got a question. Read in Backcountry mag that atomic is working on at bindings with automatic heel riser adjustment based on slope angle. Eta on that? I'd think next 5 years. Some gigabrain dude is working on it.
 
14594290:WittyCong said:
doesn't look like it's coming back for 25 from everything that's been released so far.
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Yeah I don't see it either. Might grab a pair of the current model as I'm intrigued to try them out. :)
 
Powder7 already covered the 24-25 head stuff and the oblivions https://www.powder7.com/ski-blog/head-skis-preview/. No changes to the skis I think just the graphics. They kinda look like shit tbh. It's like a lightning graphic on a matte black background. 84 is green, 94 is blue and 102 is grey/white. Only the 116 has an image graphic that doesn't look too bad. I liked last years graphics better. The new kores look nice though.
 
how is it in the park/butters/freeride?

14585880:Twig said:
I've been skiing the new Salomon ski a bunch over the past few days, say what you want about the tip-shape, it's definitely something different and something fun. And it bears 0 similarity to the ski you're all bitching about it looking like. Do I love the graphic, not really but it's striking and definitely pops way better in person. The ski, however... I think it's going to be a very popular one ski quiver. I'm waiting to get it into some softer snow and shoot some photos but we have a review coming...

In other news, Scott has a whole new line of all-mountain freestyle twins now, called SEA. There's an 88, 98, 108 and 116. They have pretty interesting shapes, another company getting back into the game is always cool to see too.
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This sounds like my type of ski:

"To quote the K2 designer behind the new Reckoners KF, Sean Fearon, “Karl wanted a trampoline and that was the best way we could give him one — a soft flex pattern and a boat load of carbon.”

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14597281:Ripline said:
This sounds like my type of ski:

"To quote the K2 designer behind the new Reckoners KF, Sean Fearon, “Karl wanted a trampoline and that was the best way we could give him one — a soft flex pattern and a boat load of carbon.”

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I've skied a handful of days on one of the protos for this and it is indeed very bouncy. Perfect if you ski like Karl. Super fun in soft snow and wants to pop off everything.

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14597306:Ripline said:
I those were the ones that leaked last year?

How is the tail rocker/splay compared to the tip?
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There were a few different versions all dressed up with this year's Reckoner 122 topsheet, but yea there were a few leaked pics. I've been holding onto the ones I posted for a while.

The tail is really similar to the tip. It really wants to jump around and is pretty soft. Trampoline is pretty much the best word to describe it.
 
14597310:cndr said:
There were a few different versions all dressed up with this year's Reckoner 122 topsheet, but yea there were a few leaked pics. I've been holding onto the ones I posted for a while.

The tail is really similar to the tip. It really wants to jump around and is pretty soft. Trampoline is pretty much the best word to describe it.
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Well then Im going to get a pair :D
 
14597178:PartyBullshiit said:
They’re called Hunter. They were available last year. Posted a few pages ago. Cheetah is new for 24/25
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Cheetah is kinda fire. Not really a fan of anything camo.
 
14597313:Ripline said:
Well then Im going to get a pair :D
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It's pretty damn fun, especially if you like to make turns in the air. Can get a little washy on firm snow but thats not what it's for. Fun in the slushy stuff too.

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14597166:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
I need the 190 + length of this
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I'm 190cm and the 184 110 is plenty stable (Wanted a more playful ski and the 184 never feels like too little of a ski.) I'm also 170lbs. Pisses me off that rossignol measures before they press the skis. The 184 is more like ~182.
 
14599508:BallClapper said:
I'm 190cm and the 184 110 is plenty stable (Wanted a more playful ski and the 184 never feels like too little of a ski.) I'm also 170lbs. Pisses me off that rossignol measures before they press the skis. The 184 is more like ~182.
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That just means it's a base running length measurement since that is what contacts the snow, not necessarily measurements before/after pressing the skis. It's common for most brands to do that.
 
14599597:.nasty said:
That just means it's a base running length measurement since that is what contacts the snow, not necessarily measurements before/after pressing the skis. It's common for most brands to do that.
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I dont think its the length of ski that contacts the snow as that would be much shorter. A lot of the big brands just list the layup length pre press and you lose a few cm with the tip and tail splay. If you look at a blister review they list the true length which is usually a bit shorter. Like my skis are listed at 171 but straight tape pull measures like 169. Some others like on3p and 1000skis give the true length post press.
 
I work for a ski company in the US and we cut materials to that length to the length that we list our skis. Once they come out of the press the shape of the ski will make the final length a few cms shorter. Honestly, with how much rocker/ early rise some companies apply to different models. Consumers, may need to become more aware of their contact points, sidecut, and flex than overall length. A 191 from one company might ski and feel a lot shorter than a 184 from another company.

14599508:BallClapper said:
I'm 190cm and the 184 110 is plenty stable (Wanted a more playful ski and the 184 never feels like too little of a ski.) I'm also 170lbs. Pisses me off that rossignol measures before they press the skis. The 184 is more like ~182.
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14599733:newpooper said:
I dont think its the length of ski that contacts the snow as that would be much shorter. A lot of the big brands just list the layup length pre press and you lose a few cm with the tip and tail splay. If you look at a blister review they list the true length which is usually a bit shorter. Like my skis are listed at 171 but straight tape pull measures like 169. Some others like on3p and 1000skis give the true length post press.
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I measure many skis every day, and what I said before is true. It's running length, which isn't much shorter than tip/tail length than you may think. I wasn't talking about camber/rocker contact points, I'm talking about the overall contact of the ski on the underside (in powder the whole base of the ski contacts the snow). Yes, the ski length before press is longer but think about which way the ski goes when pressed, which is up. So the underside is the longer length i.e. running length. What a brand decides to label it as is totally at their discretion.
 
14600110:.nasty said:
I measure many skis every day, and what I said before is true. It's running length, which isn't much shorter than tip/tail length than you may think. I wasn't talking about camber/rocker contact points, I'm talking about the overall contact of the ski on the underside (in powder the whole base of the ski contacts the snow). Yes, the ski length before press is longer but think about which way the ski goes when pressed, which is up. So the underside is the longer length i.e. running length. What a brand decides to label it as is totally at their discretion.
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Oh ok. I thought you meant the length that would touch a flat surface where the tips and tails would not be in contact. misunderstood what running length meant.
 
14600110:.nasty said:
I measure many skis every day, and what I said before is true. It's running length, which isn't much shorter than tip/tail length than you may think. I wasn't talking about camber/rocker contact points, I'm talking about the overall contact of the ski on the underside (in powder the whole base of the ski contacts the snow). Yes, the ski length before press is longer but think about which way the ski goes when pressed, which is up. So the underside is the longer length i.e. running length. What a brand decides to label it as is totally at their discretion.
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I mean... what you're describing is functionally the same as just saying pre-pressed length, and calling that "running length" is super confusing because virtually everyone else defines it like this (e.g. sooth ski):

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14600110:.nasty said:
I measure many skis every day, and what I said before is true. It's running length, which isn't much shorter than tip/tail length than you may think. I wasn't talking about camber/rocker contact points, I'm talking about the overall contact of the ski on the underside (in powder the whole base of the ski contacts the snow). Yes, the ski length before press is longer but think about which way the ski goes when pressed, which is up. So the underside is the longer length i.e. running length. What a brand decides to label it as is totally at their discretion.
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that’s not what running length is bud
 
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