11 Charged with Sedition Against the U.S.

14382340:ghanley said:
1. Incorrect. Ashli Babbit was the only person that was killed on January 6th. An unarmed Air Force Veteran that was murdered by Michael Byrd, who previously left his loaded service weapon in the public restroom in the Capitol. Clearly someone that is reckless and has a history of poor judgement. There were 4 other deaths, but only 1 person was killed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9689407/Capitol-Hill-cop-shot-dead-MAGA-rioter-Ashli-Babbitt-REVEALED.html

2. What makes you so sure of that? Should I just take your word for it? Why wouldn't the Executive Assistant Director Jill Sandborn answer Senator Ted Cruz when he asked that very question? If it were so obvious they weren't involved, why wouldn't she just say so?

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1480941660401979405?s=20

3. Ray Epps is one of those suspected Feds. He was seen the night before encouraging people to go in to the capital as others were disturbed by this. He was also on the FBI's most wanted list following Jan 6th and then mysteriously taken off with no explanation and has not been arrested to anyone's knowledge.

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1481021072367624196?s=20

4. Sooo.... Not a single gun that I am aware of. Feel free to correct me on that. Who plans a coup or insurrection without guns?

5. There is no logical explanation. There is something the public does not know as to why proper security was not in place that day. Everyone knew ahead of time there was going to be a massive crowd of people in DC on January 6th. Don't you think it would have been a good idea to bring in the National Guard, especially after we all saw what happened in the Summer of 2020 when people from out of state come to wreak havoc on a city?

That garbage WP article is from August 2021 by the way. If I am "not even close", why are Democrats already speculating who will be replacing her in 2024? Hilary Clinton (lmfao) is getting more talk about 2024 than Kamala. Everyone knows it is over for her. Kamala could not even win her own state of California in the Democrat primary. She is despised by everyone. The majority of her staff has already quit because she is such a toxic repulsive human being. You might want to update those receipts.

What about the pipe bombs?

And just wait until you hear about this really powerful fed encouraging people to go to the capital
 
14382340:ghanley said:
1. Incorrect. Ashli Babbit was the only person that was killed on January 6th. An unarmed Air Force Veteran that was murdered by Michael Byrd, who previously left his loaded service weapon in the public restroom in the Capitol. Clearly someone that is reckless and has a history of poor judgement. There were 4 other deaths, but only 1 person was killed.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9689407/Capitol-Hill-cop-shot-dead-MAGA-rioter-Ashli-Babbitt-REVEALED.html

2. What makes you so sure of that? Should I just take your word for it? Why wouldn't the Executive Assistant Director Jill Sandborn answer Senator Ted Cruz when he asked that very question? If it were so obvious they weren't involved, why wouldn't she just say so?

https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1480941660401979405?s=20

3. Ray Epps is one of those suspected Feds. He was seen the night before encouraging people to go in to the capital as others were disturbed by this. He was also on the FBI's most wanted list following Jan 6th and then mysteriously taken off with no explanation and has not been arrested to anyone's knowledge.

https://twitter.com/SenTedCruz/status/1481021072367624196?s=20

4. Sooo.... Not a single gun that I am aware of. Feel free to correct me on that. Who plans a coup or insurrection without guns?

5. There is no logical explanation. There is something the public does not know as to why proper security was not in place that day. Everyone knew ahead of time there was going to be a massive crowd of people in DC on January 6th. Don't you think it would have been a good idea to bring in the National Guard, especially after we all saw what happened in the Summer of 2020 when people from out of state come to wreak havoc on a city?

That garbage WP article is from August 2021 by the way. If I am "not even close", why are Democrats already speculating who will be replacing her in 2024? Hilary Clinton (lmfao) is getting more talk about 2024 than Kamala. Everyone knows it is over for her. Kamala could not even win her own state of California in the Democrat primary. She is despised by everyone. The majority of her staff has already quit because she is such a toxic repulsive human being. You might want to update those receipts.

Also, you are 100% a fed
 
14382387:Lonely said:
What about the pipe bombs?

And just wait until you hear about this really powerful fed encouraging people to go to the capital

Yes, you are exactly right. What about the pipe bomber? Why would someone who was there to protest on January 6th put pipe bombs in front of the DNC and RNC headquarters the night before? I thought the Capitol was the target of the fake insurrection? I can only speculate because the FBI will not release the information they have, but if I were to guess that seems like something someone in Antifa would do. Not so much a grandma from Texas upset that the election was rigged.

President Trump encouraged his followers to "Peacefully and Patriotically make your voices heard" at the Capitol. Not sure when he said you should walk past the barricades that the police will open up for you and parade around the Capitol and take selfies.
 
14382397:ghanley said:
Yes, you are exactly right. What about the pipe bomber? Why would someone who was there to protest on January 6th put pipe bombs in front of the DNC and RNC headquarters the night before? I thought the Capitol was the target of the fake insurrection? I can only speculate because the FBI will not release the information they have, but if I were to guess that seems like something someone in Antifa would do. Not so much a grandma from Texas upset that the election was rigged.

President Trump encouraged his followers to "Peacefully and Patriotically make your voices heard" at the Capitol. Not sure when he said you should walk past the barricades that the police will open up for you and parade around the Capitol and take selfies.

so you believe the election was rigged?

are you okay if I operate under the assumption that if antifa did the exact same thing on jan 6th you'd be okay with it?
 
14380190:Italian.Stallion said:
Only one side was brainwashed into believing a lie, the lie that the election was stolen. This lie was spread by the leader of their party, the current president at the time, in an attempt to undermine our country's basic principles for his own self interest. Though both sets of pictures show violence, they incomparable in basically every other way.

Was anyone ever charged when “protestors” tried to burn down a Federal courthouse in Portland with cops inside? Just asking for a friend.
 
14382562:Charlie_Kelly said:
Was anyone ever charged when “protestors” tried to burn down a Federal courthouse in Portland with cops inside? Just asking for a friend.

LOL You know you're a simpleton when all you can do is deflect to justify your support of overthrowing the government.
 
14382397:ghanley said:
Yes, you are exactly right. What about the pipe bomber? Why would someone who was there to protest on January 6th put pipe bombs in front of the DNC and RNC headquarters the night before? I thought the Capitol was the target of the fake insurrection? I can only speculate because the FBI will not release the information they have, but if I were to guess that seems like something someone in Antifa would do. Not so much a grandma from Texas upset that the election was rigged.

Oh so you're like CRAZY crazy.

Get off the internet and go skiing for me one time my guy.
 
14382575:skierman said:
LOL You know you're a simpleton when all you can do is deflect to justify your support of overthrowing the government.

Yeah I genuinely thought it was awesome seeing congressmen and senators scared for their lives. They’ve been fucking us for so long it was a good change of pace.
 
14382589:GrandThings said:
Oh so you're like CRAZY crazy.

Get off the internet and go skiing for me one time my guy.

No thanks, the ski mountains are full of a bunch of wanna-be environmentalist losers that pretend to care and are obsessed with carbon emissions meanwhile they know absolutely nothing
 
14379644:theabortionator said:
When anyone starts with "the libs" you know they crush the political game. God I hate the two party system.

I don’t like 2 parties either but how do you fix this?

No parties: Citizens vs Gov. (never happen)

2 Parties: Party 1 vs Party 2 (perfect for government and media)

Many Parties: Things are no longer one way or the other and we stop blaming the other side. Media struggles to target and enrage large populations. Government and media have less control.

..I don’t know, I’m showering. Water is getting cold.
 
14382598:Charlie_Kelly said:
Yeah I genuinely thought it was awesome seeing congressmen and senators scared for their lives. They’ve been fucking us for so long it was a good change of pace.

And half of those idiots you voted for and continue to vote for in every election.

You have no one to blame but yourself.
 
14382610:skierman said:
And half of those idiots you voted for and continue to vote for in every election.

You have no one to blame but yourself.

Yes, he voted for half of congress lol. Take a hike and a civics class.
 
14382612:r00kie said:
Yes, he voted for half of congress lol. Take a hike and a civics class.

Supporting a political party blindly = supporting half of the idiots.

Take a hike and a civics class.
 
14382643:skierman said:
Supporting a political party blindly = supporting half of the idiots.

Take a hike and a civics class.

Says one of the hardest party loyalists on this site.
 
Storming the capitol is bad but so is burning down your own cities for a criminal. Lets all recognize that libertarian is the way to go
 
14382653:VTshredder69 said:
Storming the capitol is bad but so is burning down your own cities for a criminal. Lets all recognize that libertarian is the way to go

I agree with your sentiment- George Floyd was a drug addict criminal that does not deserve statues or a golden casket. But Libertarians are kindof jaded and think they are smarter than everyone else imo
 
14382402:Lonely said:
so you believe the election was rigged?

are you okay if I operate under the assumption that if antifa did the exact same thing on jan 6th you'd be okay with it?

All elections are rigged and have been considering DNC and RNC are for profit corporations that select candidates.
 
14382402:Lonely said:
so you believe the election was rigged?

are you okay if I operate under the assumption that if antifa did the exact same thing on jan 6th you'd be okay with it?

Can you prove to me there was no election interference, all electronic voting machines are 100% secure, all mail-in ballots are accurately accounted for, the media and big tech had no influence and did not cover up important stories (like crackhead pedophile Hunter Biden's laptop), and all votes were correctly counted?

You are entitled to your opinion as am I.

Also, when did I say I was ok with what happened on January 6th? Screw those QAnon retards that fell right into the trap set by the Democrat regime.

One difference I will point out - A lot of the people in DC on January 6th are working class that feel they do not have a voice in their government - they did not go there to loot foot locker, burn down car dealerships, and destroy everything in sight.

Antifa and BLM, on the other hand, decided the best way to make their voices heard is to demonize law enforcement, loot expensive retail stores, destroy cities that they do not live in or contribute in any productive way
 
14382717:ghanley said:
Can you prove to me there was no election interference,

CAN YOU PROVE TO ME THAT TRUMP IS 100% A HUMAN AND NOT A LIZARD PERSON TRYING TO DESTROY HUMANITY WILL BILL GATES!?!!?!

You can't!? Well fuck, I guess Trump is a lizard person!
 
14382725:skierman said:
CAN YOU PROVE TO ME THAT TRUMP IS 100% A HUMAN AND NOT A LIZARD PERSON TRYING TO DESTROY HUMANITY WILL BILL GATES!?!!?!

You can't!? Well fuck, I guess Trump is a lizard person!

BLOW A FART!!!!
 
14382717:ghanley said:
Antifa and BLM, on the other hand, decided the best way to make their voices heard is to demonize law enforcement, loot expensive retail stores, destroy cities that they do not live in or contribute in any productive way

I've posted on ns before about how dumb it is to compare Jan 6th to BLM protests but the narrative is too strong I guess. 93% of black lives matter protests were peaceful and they are in response to police killing citizens. The racial component is that black people are killed at a much higher rate. Throwing some accountability and shade at police is fine in my book because police in America kill way more of their own citizens than any other developed country. I think us being over policed is an issue and it affects poor communities more which coincidentally fall along racial lines.

"In short, our data suggest that 96.3% of events involved no property damage or police injuries, and in 97.7% of events, no injuries were reported among participants, bystanders or police."
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de...violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/
https://www.radcliffe.harvard.edu/n...re-overwhelmingly-peaceful-our-research-finds
 
14382717:ghanley said:
Can you prove to me there was no election interference, all electronic voting machines are 100% secure, all mail-in ballots are accurately accounted for, the media and big tech had no influence and did not cover up important stories (like crackhead pedophile Hunter Biden's laptop), and all votes were correctly counted?

Yes, we can say that because it's how the election system system works, you are a certified kook dude.
 
14382798:eheath said:
Yes, we can say that because it's how the election system system works, you are a certified kook dude.

You can prove it because that is how it works. Got it. Very compelling argument you made! You are a certified moron. Maybe spend less time posting on Newschoolers and pay attention to what is going on in the world

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2022 at 2:13:10pm
 
14382804:ghanley said:
You can prove it because that is how it works. Got it. Very compelling argument you made! You are a certified moron. Maybe spend less time posting on Newschoolers and pay attention to what is going on in the work.

How do you think the election system works? You're acting like 10 people in each state got together and tallied the votes, the USA has had a very robust elections system for years my dude, you're just a dumbass trump boot licker who can't accept that your idol didn't get re-elected.
 
14382804:ghanley said:
You can prove it because that is how it works. Got it. Very compelling argument you made! You are a certified moron. Maybe spend less time posting on Newschoolers and pay attention to what is going on in the world

**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2022 at 2:13:10pm

My source for voting information comes from the my pillow guy and him alone.
 
14382796:AndrewGravesSV said:
I've posted on ns before about how dumb it is to compare Jan 6th to BLM protests but the narrative is too strong I guess. 93% of black lives matter protests were peaceful and they are in response to police killing citizens. The racial component is that black people are killed at a much higher rate. Throwing some accountability and shade at police is fine in my book because police in America kill way more of their own citizens than any other developed country. I think us being over policed is an issue and it affects poor communities more which coincidentally fall along racial lines.

"In short, our data suggest that 96.3% of events involved no property damage or police injuries, and in 97.7% of events, no injuries were reported among participants, bystanders or police."
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de...violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/
https://www.radcliffe.harvard.edu/n...re-overwhelmingly-peaceful-our-research-finds

It is dumb to compare riots that took place within the same year. Very true, I didn't realize that!

Notice how I never mentioned any issue with the peaceful protests that took place by BLM. In America you are able to express yourself in any way, regardless of whether or not people agree. I was specifically referring to the riots that took place by members of BLM and Antifa.

Throwing "accountability" or "shade" is way different than assaulting officers, or ambushing 2 police officers in Compton and shooting them. Anyone who supports assaulting police is a piece of garbage human being. Anyone who supports defunding the police should be forced to live in shitholes like Portland or St Louis and see how that is working out for them.

Do you ever consider why black people are killed at a disproportionate rate? Do you think maybe because despite making up less than 13% of the US population, they commit more than half of all homicides? Not to mention they are 18.5 times more likely to kill a police officer than a police officer is to kill an unarmed black man.

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**This post was edited on Jan 20th 2022 at 2:35:40pm
 
14382806:eheath said:
How do you think the election system works? You're acting like 10 people in each state got together and tallied the votes, the USA has had a very robust elections system for years my dude, you're just a dumbass trump boot licker who can't accept that your idol didn't get re-elected.

You have yet to explain how the US has such a great, robust, secure election system. You clearly do not know how to make an argument for yourself. Which is understandable, you are the head moderator for an online skiing forum and still feel it appropriate to call other people dumbasses.

There were many issues with the 2020 election. Most important being the mail in ballots. There was not a secure system in place for the mail in ballots. Dead people were voting using mail in ballots, ballots were being double counted by faulty counting machines, signatures were being "verified" by volunteers that have no certification or experience doing so.

The amount of influence that big tech and corporate media have on voters is extremely corrupt and there are no systems in place to regulate how these entities are able to influence the election.

Again, you are the head moderator on an internet skiing forum and you are telling me the election system works because it does. And I should just trust you because we've had it for years. Case closed.
 
14382827:ghanley said:
There were many issues with the 2020 election. Most important being the mail in ballots. There was not a secure system in place for the mail in ballots. Dead people were voting using mail in ballots, ballots were being double counted by faulty counting machines, signatures were being "verified" by volunteers that have no certification or experience doing so.

my main man my pillow guy has said the same thing, but he hasn't shown any evidence, do you have any?
 
14382562:Charlie_Kelly said:
Was anyone ever charged when “protestors” tried to burn down a Federal courthouse in Portland with cops inside? Just asking for a friend.

You're asking me this like it's a gotcha question, but it's totally not. I never said I was okay with burning down buildings, looting, or anything like that at all. I think anyone (on the left or the right) who committed serious crimes during the protests should be charged and prosecuted.

But you're completely missing the point of what I'm saying. Let's be real: none of the Portland protesters had a president or political party on their side. When you combine radicalism with power, that's when things get really dangerous. I would rather live in the flawed shitty democracy we have than a Trumpian autocracy. Anyone who actually cares about living in a "free" society should agree.
 
THe only issue I have is social media impacting the way in which voters sway alongside removing content merely because they percieve it as false. All information should be public domain and it should be up to the viewer to determine whether or not its crazy. I dont need facebook to pollute my feed with political garbage that I dont agree with. If there is someone out there who is ill informed and gaining this information, it could easily sway their vote without looking elsewhere and if the heads at facebook sway one way opposed to another, this could cause dangerous political influence. not choosing sides. its just annoying how social media can sway the opinions of people these days whilst removing petty content that didnt really have to be removed. In a lot of cases, they tend to choose one position over the other as opposed to keeping both on the platform. THere have been cases where people merely say vaccines should be a choice, get removed. only extreme extreme content should be removed.
 
14382832:Italian.Stallion said:
You're asking me this like it's a gotcha question, but it's totally not. I never said I was okay with burning down buildings, looting, or anything like that at all. I think anyone (on the left or the right) who committed serious crimes during the protests should be charged and prosecuted.

But you're completely missing the point of what I'm saying. Let's be real: none of the Portland protesters had a president or political party on their side. When you combine radicalism with power, that's when things get really dangerous. I would rather live in the flawed shitty democracy we have than a Trumpian autocracy. Anyone who actually cares about living in a "free" society should agree.

Bro, the mayor of Portland literally marched alongside them.
 
14382831:snowfinder said:
my main man my pillow guy has said the same thing, but he hasn't shown any evidence, do you have any?

I don't really get your obsession with Mike Lindell, but keep clowning on him. One thing I know for certain, he is more accomplished and successful than you will ever be.

With a little digging and if you have been paying attention over the past year, you can find several cases of fraudulent activity:

Example of dead person voting:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/06/nevada-records-show-deceased-voter-rose-from-the-grave-to-cast-mail-in-ballot/



Example of ballots being double counted:

https://www.wtvm.com/2021/07/15/duplicate-ballots-found-fulton-county/

These are miniscule examples that do not have an impact on the outcome of the election, but show the vulnerabilities with mail in ballots that I was referring to
 
14382686:ghanley said:
I agree with your sentiment- George Floyd was a drug addict criminal that does not deserve statues or a golden casket. But Libertarians are kindof jaded and think they are smarter than everyone else imo

Yikes. The problem is people either make somebody into a hero, or tear everything down if they aren't a hero snd have faults. Policing toward black people has been messed up snd very different thsn the policing of white people. That's simply a fact.

People don't need to be a hero to be a catlyst for change. People don't need to be without faults to not get killed by police.
 
Meanwhile they fly around the world on a pj lmao

14382601:ghanley said:
No thanks, the ski mountains are full of a bunch of wanna-be environmentalist losers that pretend to care and are obsessed with carbon emissions meanwhile they know absolutely nothing
 
14382859:theabortionator said:
Yikes. The problem is people either make somebody into a hero, or tear everything down if they aren't a hero snd have faults. Policing toward black people has been messed up snd very different thsn the policing of white people. That's simply a fact.

People don't need to be a hero to be a catlyst for change. People don't need to be without faults to not get killed by police.

All you have to do is listen to what police are telling you to do and they won't kill you. It's really not that complicated but certain people have a hard time figuring that out.

Did you watch the entire police encounter with George Floyd? They were more than respectful at first but when you start acting like an asshole and are high on fentanyl and meth it becomes difficult to have sympathy.

Chauvin was a dirty cop and was out of line but none of this would have ever happened if the drug addict criminal did not use fake money and try to resist arrest. Not to mention he had a lethal amount drugs in his system when he died.
 
14382872:ghanley said:
All you have to do is listen to what police are telling you to do and they won't kill you. It's really not that complicated but certain people have a hard time figuring that out.

Did you watch the entire police encounter with George Floyd? They were more than respectful at first but when you start acting like an asshole and are high on fentanyl and meth it becomes difficult to have sympathy.

Chauvin was a dirty cop and was out of line but none of this would have ever happened if the drug addict criminal did not use fake money and try to resist arrest. Not to mention he had a lethal amount drugs in his system when he died.

Wow, thanks for everyone know that you're racist.

Also nice let's go brandon to confirm that you're cooked.

"My experiences are the same as what everyone experience and if those people would have done this differently they wouldn't have an issue."

Cool vibes dude. It's 2022, maybe don't be a racist douche. Big yikes.
 
14382822:ghanley said:
It is dumb to compare riots that took place within the same year. Very true, I didn't realize that!

Notice how I never mentioned any issue with the peaceful protests that took place by BLM. In America you are able to express yourself in any way, regardless of whether or not people agree. I was specifically referring to the riots that took place by members of BLM and Antifa.

Throwing "accountability" or "shade" is way different than assaulting officers, or ambushing 2 police officers in Compton and shooting them. Anyone who supports assaulting police is a piece of garbage human being. Anyone who supports defunding the police should be forced to live in shitholes like Portland or St Louis and see how that is working out for them.

Do you ever consider why black people are killed at a disproportionate rate? Do you think maybe because despite making up less than 13% of the US population, they commit more than half of all homicides? Not to mention they are 18.5 times more likely to kill a police officer than a police officer is to kill an unarmed black man.

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14382882:theabortionator said:
Wow, thanks for everyone know that you're racist.

Also nice let's go brandon to confirm that you're cooked.

"My experiences are the same as what everyone experience and if those people would have done this differently they wouldn't have an issue."

Cool vibes dude. It's 2022, maybe don't be a racist douche. Big yikes.

Explain why I am racist. It is pretty simple. If you do not resist arrest and listen to what police tell you to do, they will not kill you. It has got nothing to do with what the color of your skin is
 
14382827:ghanley said:
Case closed.

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14382827:ghanley said:
You have yet to explain how the US has such a great, robust, secure election system. You clearly do not know how to make an argument for yourself. Which is understandable, you are the head moderator for an online skiing forum and still feel it appropriate to call other people dumbasses.

Sounds like you need to do some research about how the election system works, dumbass.
 
14382882:theabortionator said:
Wow, thanks for everyone know that you're racist.

Also nice let's go brandon to confirm that you're cooked.

"My experiences are the same as what everyone experience and if those people would have done this differently they wouldn't have an issue."

Cool vibes dude. It's 2022, maybe don't be a racist douche. Big yikes.

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14382872:ghanley said:
All you have to do is listen to what police are telling you to do and they won't kill you. It's really not that complicated but certain people have a hard time figuring that out.

Did you watch the entire police encounter with George Floyd? They were more than respectful at first but when you start acting like an asshole and are high on fentanyl and meth it becomes difficult to have sympathy.

Chauvin was a dirty cop and was out of line but none of this would have ever happened if the drug addict criminal did not use fake money and try to resist arrest. Not to mention he had a lethal amount drugs in his system when he died.

Confirmed troll.
 
14382852:ghanley said:
I don't really get your obsession with Mike Lindell, but keep clowning on him. One thing I know for certain, he is more accomplished and successful than you will ever be.

With a little digging and if you have been paying attention over the past year, you can find several cases of fraudulent activity:

Example of dead person voting:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/06/nevada-records-show-deceased-voter-rose-from-the-grave-to-cast-mail-in-ballot/



Example of ballots being double counted:

https://www.wtvm.com/2021/07/15/duplicate-ballots-found-fulton-county/

These are miniscule examples that do not have an impact on the outcome of the election, but show the vulnerabilities with mail in ballots that I was referring to

Clicked on the federalis link... Dude there is a Nazi eagle for their logo. You are trying to hard to troll.
 
14382998:snowfinder said:
Clicked on the federalis link... Dude there is a Nazi eagle for their logo. You are trying to hard to troll.

I would considering thinking before you speak in the future.

Do you really think a media outlet in the United States would use the Nazi eagle as their logo?

The founder is a contributor to major media outlets and is married to Megan McCain. Don't you think he would have been cancelled by now if that were the case? That is what you leftists like to do to anyone that hurts your feelings.

I am not trolling anyone, you are not able to prove me wrong or change my point of view so you choose to starting making things up.
 
14383016:ghanley said:
I would considering thinking before you speak in the future.

Do you really think a media outlet in the United States would use the Nazi eagle as their logo?

The founder is a contributor to major media outlets and is married to Megan McCain. Don't you think he would have been cancelled by now if that were the case? That is what you leftists like to do to anyone that hurts your feelings.

I am not trolling anyone, you are not able to prove me wrong or change my point of view so you choose to starting making things up.

Not worth the time troll.
 
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