X-Games Slope Discussion

judges are giving more points for jumps now, Woodsy definitely had the best run through the rails and got a 72
 
13781924:Mingg said:
just saw on the televisions that the jumps are 60, 65 and 70 feet. I have no idea how west actually pulled off a 67 foot jump... thats fucking massive.

Bigger isnt always better. Also the jumps are built much better.

Still havent seen a confirmed measure or anyone i trust on west. That said either way they're kind of retarded for building it. Build a jump that noone hits so the can claim it and film a double. Lollerskates
 
13781954:theabortionator said:
Bigger isnt always better. Also the jumps are built much better.

Still havent seen a confirmed measure or anyone i trust on west. That said either way they're kind of retarded for building it. Build a jump that noone hits so the can claim it and film a double. Lollerskates

What is west?
 
13781949:FUUUCK said:

Nah. He came off a rail early and still got a 91.66, that's definitely not being judged unfairly.

Judges got it right. Best 3 runs were definitely Oystein, McRae, and ABM.
 
personally Woodsy was my favourite run. By far wouldn't score it the highest but definitely my favourite. Sliding the whole wallride, the lil hand drag on the rainbow.
 
13782065:gapersarefriends said:
Why is devin logan in the womens comp

Exactly.

It will be interesting to see if Kelly is hiding anything (ie. double)

If Kaya will attempt a double.

If Zimmerman will execute.

I think Maggie is at the end of her bag of tricks. It stops at 10 currently.
 
Logan with the tweaked 720. WTF.

Zimmerman dropping the dub. Fuck yeah! Somebody needs to reset the bar.

It is interesting to see these girls at the end of their bag of tricks and Zimmerman (and Kaya) trying to move it. Even Kelly is looking a bit pedestrian in this event with a bunch of standard spins. I'm not sure I've seen her do much off-axis ever. That may be her weakness.
 
I don't think Kaya's sw 10 was a dub. It was real wobbly and actually a sick rotation but hard to call it a dub. Lisa was the clear winner though in my mind
 
13782075:Breaking_Rad said:
It will be interesting to see if Kelly is hiding anything (ie. double)

Pretty surprised she didn't throw anything but switch 10s... given they were both ways but still kind of expected something else from her. Oh well.

Pretty damn stoked on Kaya and Lisa's dubs. Was really surprised at Guilia's sw 12, I've never heard of her so that was a nice surprise haha.
 
13782091:The.Fish said:
I don't understand how a dub 10 gets a 47 but a 10 with a mute gets a 42.

Well it was clean as hell, but yeah I think Kelly has hit the end of her bag of tricks. Either that or she was just playing it super-safe to make sure she was in SS tomorrow.

Nice to see Kaya and Lisa pushing it. Wish Kaya had something else to add to that 47 because she deserved the bronze just for throwing it.
 
13782101:Mingg said:
Pretty surprised she didn't throw anything but switch 10s... given they were both ways but still kind of expected something else from her. Oh well.

I don't think Kelly has anything more - yet. Not that she's not capable of more. Good to see some of these girls pushing it.

But Devin Logan? Sheesh, the US team is not looking proper.
 
13782118:Breaking_Rad said:
I don't think Kelly has anything more - yet. Not that she's not capable of more. Good to see some of these girls pushing it.

But Devin Logan? Sheesh, the US team is not looking proper.

Yeah I feel that. I want to say two years ago at x games she did a sw 10 along with Tiril maybe. Then she did both way 10s at Dew Tour this year I believe. So she's definitely been doing them for a while, and she's definitely got them clean. I can't imagine shes too far off from other tricks. Really really thought she was gonna dub tonight haha.
 
13782101:Mingg said:
Pretty surprised she didn't throw anything but switch 10s... given they were both ways but still kind of expected something else from her. Oh well.

Pretty damn stoked on Kaya and Lisa's dubs. Was really surprised at Guilia's sw 12, I've never heard of her so that was a nice surprise haha.

13782112:Breaking_Rad said:
Well it was clean as hell, but yeah I think Kelly has hit the end of her bag of tricks. Either that or she was just playing it super-safe to make sure she was in SS tomorrow.

Nice to see Kaya and Lisa pushing it. Wish Kaya had something else to add to that 47 because she deserved the bronze just for throwing it.

I think kaya deserved that bronze more
 
13782129:gapersarefriends said:
I think kaya deserved that bronze more

her second score was pretty low. If she could have had one more hit to do something solid, she would have had it easily.
 
13782112:Breaking_Rad said:
Well it was clean as hell, but yeah I think Kelly has hit the end of her bag of tricks. Either that or she was just playing it super-safe to make sure she was in SS tomorrow.

Nice to see Kaya and Lisa pushing it. Wish Kaya had something else to add to that 47 because she deserved the bronze just for throwing it.

It may have been clean but those were the first dubs from women in competition... a dub 10 is twice as hard as a normal 10, the landings weren't even that bad either.
 
13782140:The.Fish said:
It may have been clean but those were the first dubs from women in competition... a dub 10 is twice as hard as a normal 10, the landings weren't even that bad either.

No, I totally agree. The judges probably went in too high with the early low 40s. They gave Hailey Langland a 49 on a well-grabbed, super clean landed dub last night. 47 probably reflected a bit of a wonky landing. But yeah, the traditional spins should have been high 30s. Not sure they anticipated two competitors landing dubs.

I also take back some of the Kelly stuff. I see she has Cork 9s in her arsenal in some past edits. At least a single way.
 
13782140:The.Fish said:
It may have been clean but those were the first dubs from women in competition... a dub 10 is twice as hard as a normal 10, the landings weren't even that bad either.

I mean looking back last night at snowboard comp quads weren't getting a ton higher than triples so... Judging has been back this whole games
 
13782146:Swandog7 said:
I mean looking back last night at snowboard comp quads weren't getting a ton higher than triples so... Judging has been back this whole games

well the quads look so rushed and had hand drag landings if I recall correctly. I still don't get how a quad underflip scores higher than a quad cork. The quad cork actually spins and flips versus just flipping in the underflip.
 
13782156:The.Fish said:
well the quads look so rushed and had hand drag landings if I recall correctly. I still don't get how a quad underflip scores higher than a quad cork. The quad cork actually spins and flips versus just flipping in the underflip.

The quad cork landing was clean, backseat but never touched the ground. I cant recall the underflip landing but I mean even so. Some of the scoring is all over the spectrum, and some tricks get way under scored or way over scored
 
13782146:Swandog7 said:
I mean looking back last night at snowboard comp quads weren't getting a ton higher than triples so... Judging has been back this whole games

I'm assuming you meant to say wack. If not then this post is irrelevant.

So I'll be honest, I have no clue how skiing is judged and how tricks are scored. I only know how it's done in gymnastics(super lame, ik). However, there is a ton of consistency in gymnastics and very little variables which makes judging extremely objective relatively speaking. In skiing there are endless trick to feature variations which I would assume makes judging skiing difficult.

It seems like in skiing judging is based off competition as a whole instead of the individual runs themselves. For instance, a 90 in women's slope is different than a 90 in mens slope. And a 90 at one comp is different from a 90 at a different comp. There's so much variability and I can only assume that makes it hard as fuck to give consistent scores?

Orrrrr I could be totally wrong and someone please enlighten me.
 
13782165:Mingg said:
I'm assuming you meant to say wack. If not then this post is irrelevant.

So I'll be honest, I have no clue how skiing is judged and how tricks are scored. I only know how it's done in gymnastics(super lame, ik). However, there is a ton of consistency in gymnastics and very little variables which makes judging extremely objective relatively speaking. In skiing there are endless trick to feature variations which I would assume makes judging skiing difficult.

It seems like in skiing judging is based off competition as a whole instead of the individual runs themselves. For instance, a 90 in women's slope is different than a 90 in mens slope. And a 90 at one comp is different from a 90 at a different comp. There's so much variability and I can only assume that makes it hard as fuck to give consistent scores?

Orrrrr I could be totally wrong and someone please enlighten me.

Yes I meant wack, however, Im not even saying its different than other comps, its just the scoring within each event that its a bit off. The judges are obviously qualified and know what they are doing, and we don't know everything that goes into it, but even us NSers can tell that there can be some lack of consistency of scoring here and there, and by no means is it easy, but there are some wild scores.
 
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