ScrappyJoeYoung
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but if wallisch goes, no matter what stepp better be there too!
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BrokenBones
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Eh, I donno. I bet you he could hold his own.
thenakedcellist
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Thats pretty crazy. Shits gonna go downn
CHARLES.BRONSON
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yup, he also happens to be the only guy that really seems to make pipe look natural, and not just some discipline he trains day and night for ....
marmite
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I'll paraphrase - if it ain't in North America, it doesn't count!
Assuming you're right... how do people who aren't native to the U.S. get counted for big purse U.S. events, if the criteria is already having a presence at those events? That's a catch-22.
A good course is a good course. Good skiing is good skiing. If Lolo skis an amazing run and Tanner isn't there to watch, it's still an amazing run. Skill should speak for itself.
Assuming you're right... how do people who aren't native to the U.S. get counted for big purse U.S. events, if the criteria is already having a presence at those events? That's a catch-22.
A good course is a good course. Good skiing is good skiing. If Lolo skis an amazing run and Tanner isn't there to watch, it's still an amazing run. Skill should speak for itself.
tride
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That paraphrase is taking it a little over the top.
The point was simply that you have to look at the depth of field when you consider the weight of a result. And yes, right now the North American events generally have much greater depth of talent than some of the other events. The athletes from other Nationalities can still enter things like the US Open, WSI, Nippon Open etc.
I wasn't suggesting that events such as Euro Open should not be counted, just that you need to consider depth of field when you decide how much weight to put on a result, especially when the result is not a win. A top ten run from last years Ski Tour would probably have been a top five run at the Euro Open or NZ Open.
It's more about who is there, than where it is, for example last years Nippon Open was a fairly well attended event by the majority of top pros.
It's not that "it shouldn't count" if it's not a North American event, it's just that you need to be smart with the weight you give to certain events, and generally the best way to do that is to look at who was there. Someone we don't know probably won the South American events in Chile this year, why don't we recognize those for X-Games? Because there were no recognized top level pipe riders present, and a result needs to be compared to the field that participates.
There was a FIS World Cup halfpipe event in Canada last year, and the Finnish skier who won it skied great. He beat Kevin and Xavier who were also there, so why does he not get a spot? Well, because without a good list of credible athletes, it is too hard to accurately determine what that result actually means.
A win at the JOI should be worth something, not because of where it took place, but because of the athletes who participated.
And as you can see by my more recent posts, I have already retracted my statements about Xavier, I completely forgot about his WSI podium when I first commented.
The point was simply that you have to look at the depth of field when you consider the weight of a result. And yes, right now the North American events generally have much greater depth of talent than some of the other events. The athletes from other Nationalities can still enter things like the US Open, WSI, Nippon Open etc.
I wasn't suggesting that events such as Euro Open should not be counted, just that you need to consider depth of field when you decide how much weight to put on a result, especially when the result is not a win. A top ten run from last years Ski Tour would probably have been a top five run at the Euro Open or NZ Open.
It's more about who is there, than where it is, for example last years Nippon Open was a fairly well attended event by the majority of top pros.
It's not that "it shouldn't count" if it's not a North American event, it's just that you need to be smart with the weight you give to certain events, and generally the best way to do that is to look at who was there. Someone we don't know probably won the South American events in Chile this year, why don't we recognize those for X-Games? Because there were no recognized top level pipe riders present, and a result needs to be compared to the field that participates.
There was a FIS World Cup halfpipe event in Canada last year, and the Finnish skier who won it skied great. He beat Kevin and Xavier who were also there, so why does he not get a spot? Well, because without a good list of credible athletes, it is too hard to accurately determine what that result actually means.
A win at the JOI should be worth something, not because of where it took place, but because of the athletes who participated.
And as you can see by my more recent posts, I have already retracted my statements about Xavier, I completely forgot about his WSI podium when I first commented.
sirskizalot
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jea tj
CHARLES.BRONSON
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laurent keeps it legit
jp_draves
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ahmet, hornebeck, wallisch, stepp, martini(s), clarke. should all be in. they would honestly slay if they could hold it down and keep it together. One thing i notice with big pros is their tricks on rails arent as good as these few athletes and yet the jumping is somewhat comparable in some cases.
edmonton_skier
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how come people like carlson are in pipe? (no that hes not good) and Justin dorey isnt??? ... makes 0 sence to me
carbon.pulse
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If jossi can get his new tricks on lock with grabs and can land a smooth pipe run, he could take pipe and slope...at 17!
skierkid_92
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ya why isnt tanner hall on the slopestyle, didnt he get like silver last year????
