Why no team movies in skiing?

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thomas_skier

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Why is that skateboarding has team videos (and snowboarding to a lesser extent) but they haven't really popped up in skiing (besides 1242 and k2 "Performers")? I would rather see a committed part from each member of a team than a semi-committed part from a longer list of pros.

 
semi-committed? are you on crack boy?

its because ski teams are smaller than skate teams.

Yea. I said it.

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-STEVE STEPP

 
You don't agree that many of the skiers in a film are only semi-committed to the film company for that year's filming?

Can you think of a better way to describe Pep's commitment to PBP this year, considering that he also has a part in Pop yer Bottlze and Hit List? Do want to tell me he is fully committed to all of those companies?

You don't think he would have a longer, better part in WAR if he only filmed with PBP?

I also don't buy your team-size explanation. Try again.

 
I fucking love when kids who have no idea what they are talking about talk to no end.

awesome.

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"I'm glad that in our endless pursuit to be three years behind snowboarding, we've finally gotten around to their FAG phase." -Micah Abrams

 
imagine an armada team video.

featuring groms and ams as well.

what a trip.

"It's better to be judged by twelve people, than to be carried by six."

 
don't get your panties in a bunch. i asked a question, i didn't offer any knowledge.

anyways, would you disagree that pep's part would have been longer and better in war if he had filmed with PBP only? do i need years experience in the ski industry to make that claim? I don't think so.

 
it takes money, filmers and cameras. like oakley had a team video but at the base is was Poor Boyz, just like the forum video ''true life'' was made by mack dawg. at the base it all comes down to the same thing....

stoneham rprsnt

 
also.... how do determine what "team" you ride for? A skier could ride for a ski company, clothing company, goggle company, glove company, etc etc.

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indeed indeed, team films are a good concept, but few companies in our industry can afford to solely back a feaure length film project.

 
by the way just so you know there is the orage team vid called Entourage, and then the Ninthward team video coming too...if thats still coming

-TacO

Ski Rossignol
 
gemini is practically a team video featuring a lot of jibij riders. its awesome

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in skateboarding its a whole shitload easier and cheaper. whereas in skiing they take expensive trips to exotic locations shooting 16mm and whatnot, skateboarders grab a couple vx1000's and drive around and get shots much easier..

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was about to say that. and all the free movies that helly hansen has been putting out

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jibtech is right look at the main sponsors in a movie then look att the riders they all arent form that sponsor but there are quite a few

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Royalty was also almost a team video and was meant to be I am pretty sure.

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My panties aren't in a bunch, you just have no idea what you are talking about.

Ski companies would rather see their athletes get coverage in a number of films as opposed to just one... it provides a better chance for a greater number of people to see their athlete with their product. It makes their marketing dollars go further when they have skiers in mutliple films.

Making a team skate video is about 99,998 times easier than making a team ski video... grab your crew of skaters, and a VX2000, rent a van and drive into a huge urban city, shoot for a few weeks. presto: Skate Team Video.

"getting the shot" is much more complicated and expensive in skiing. Producing a high caliber feature lenth 16mm team video could cost upwards of 200,000 Dollars. A single ski company won't pay that much money for a single video. Even the Oakley Team video 'session 1242' had sponsors that contributed aside from oakley, and they are damn near a billion dollar company. Its to much money and not enough exposure for their athletes. As I mentioned before, to get the most bang for their buck companies distribute their dollars and their athletes accross a number of video producers.

Furthermore, Thomas_Skier, you are in no possition to be questioning what you think is "Pep's lack of commitment to PBP". You don't know the first thing about it.

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"I'm glad that in our endless pursuit to be three years behind snowboarding, we've finally gotten around to their FAG phase." -Micah Abrams

 
Your a fucking retard there are team movies such as salomons adreniline hunters and atomic has one i am pretty sure rossi has one to your just stupid if some one asked me to describe your intelligence i would tell them that your about as smart as a brick with a face.

 
no, your panties are definitely in a bunch. there's no need to be so defensive. I still haven't presumed to know anything, and you still haven't addressed the one opinion I offered: that Pep's part would have been better if he only filmed with Poorboyz. I'm not saying he SHOULD have filmed only with poorboyz, or that this is would somehow be financially plausible. I'm just saying that I think his part would have been better and longer if he only filmed with one ski company. I respect Pep a lot (I grew up skiing with him) and I'm not "questioning his committment to Poorboyz" in terms of his integrity. All I'm saying is that he didn't film exclusively with Poorboyz. That's not a dis.

I'm glad you finally answered my question. There's no reason to get defensive and beat your chest.

 
I have to agree with Dave on this one. Making White Shine was hard beacause everyone was on the same team. And that ski movies are so damn expensive to make.

But I still think a samller company like Ninthward could maybe pull it off as skiers on that team would feel more motivated to push a smaller company and what it represents. Smaller companies are like familly's, they woudl want to make it work. But it still wouldn't be like anything that is being done right now. It would be a dope movie, but the money wouldn't be there.

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The D team film
 
I think that skiing is about chillin and filing with your homies whether or not your on the same team

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Teams don't exist in skiing. It's all about trying to make more money than the other dude on your team and showing your six pack on an ad.

Consider yourself insulted
 
Thats becoming more and more true every year and thats not what skiing is about its sad. All those shit head that believe this should be shot in the back of the head with a 50 cal

 
haha look at this PM Thomas_skier just sent me!!!

he's telling me not to get my panties in a bunch... when clearly he is the lad that his a ball of cotton up his ass.

"Don't lecture me you deustche bag. Your moral overtones are pathetic. I'm not questioning Pep's integrity. You seem to be in violent denial of the fact that Pep had a short part in War. All I said was that it would be nice if ski movies worked like skate movies, so that everyone had a long, complete segment because they (for the most part) committed to one team video project. I didn't claim to no shit, instead I asked why this isn't possible in skiing. You could of just answered my question, instead of twisting my words and trying to take moral high ground.

PS your editing sucks"

oh where do I even start...

"Don't lecture me you deustche bag."

Oooo burn, you got me good there.

Your moral overtones are pathetic.

Huh?

"I'm not questioning Pep's integrity."

Neither am I, I thought we were talking about "his semi-commitment to PBP"... right?

"You seem to be in violent denial of the fact that Pep had a short part in War."

Excuse me? Violent denial of Pep's Short part? When ever did I even hit at something like that. No... Never

Pep's was over 3:20 seconds long, and its the best part in the movie... all killer, no filler. Length does not equal the best part.

Dare I say its the best freestyle ski segment to date? Yes I dare say it. I think more than a few people with opinions that matter more than yours would agree with me too.

"All I said was that it would be nice if ski movies worked like skate movies"

Bear with me on this one folks... I'm going to re-post everything he's said thus far and tell me if you can see where it was that he said that....

Post 1: Why is that skateboarding has team videos (and snowboarding to a lesser extent) but they haven't really popped up in skiing (besides 1242 and k2 "Performers")? I would rather see a committed part from each member of a team than a semi-committed part from a longer list of pros.

Nope... Nope... Didn't see it there....

Post 2: don't get your panties in a bunch. i asked a question, i didn't offer any knowledge.

anyways, would you disagree that pep's part would have been longer and better in war if he had filmed with PBP only? do i need years experience in the ski industry to make that claim? I don't think so.

No, still don't see it...

Post 3: no, your panties are definitely in a bunch. there's no need to be so defensive. I still haven't presumed to know anything, and you still haven't addressed the one opinion I offered: that Pep's part would have been better if he only filmed with Poorboyz. I'm not saying he SHOULD have filmed only with poorboyz, or that this is would somehow be financially plausible. I'm just saying that I think his part would have been better and longer if he only filmed with one ski company. I respect Pep a lot (I grew up skiing with him) and I'm not "questioning his committment to Poorboyz" in terms of his integrity. All I'm saying is that he didn't film exclusively with Poorboyz. That's not a dis. I'm glad you finally answered my question. There's no reason to get defensive and beat your chest.

Negative ghost rider... I didn't see you say that anywhere in any of your posts. That makes you a lying sack of shit and you deserve to have all your toenails pulled out with red hot pliers. (you did however say a bunch of other really gay shit thats not even worth my time to touch on.) So... ONWARD!

I didn't claim to no shit

wow, you really are that dumb aren't you?

instead I asked why this isn't possible in skiing.

Are you fucking serious? do I need to repost everything you wrote again? no, of course not.. you can go back and read through it and see you never asked that either.

You could of just answered my question, instead of twisting my words and trying to take moral high ground.

I answered your question immediately after you got short with me when I mused aloud at no one in-particular... I didn't twist anything... I gave you a straight forward and concise answer, to which you wrote this pissed off PM and then continued to talk shit and contradict yourself in this thread.... and why do you keep talking about this "moral high ground" what the hell is that? You perceive some strange things...

PS your editing sucks

you close as strong as you start... that was a wicked burn.

HAHAHA..... great! Thank you for bringing entertainment to my otherwise mundane Monday afternoon. Looks to me like you were trolling from the get go... I still suspect that...

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"I'm glad that in our endless pursuit to be three years behind snowboarding, we've finally gotten around to their FAG phase." -Micah Abrams

 
oh now.. I don't doubt that shit for a second.

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"I'm glad that in our endless pursuit to be three years behind snowboarding, we've finally gotten around to their FAG phase." -Micah Abrams

 
^^ maybe because the VAST majority of pro-skiers are not on a salary for the ski companies....most companies dont have the money to take their althetes for that amount of time for a promo vid...so instead they purchase footy from indy filmers or major proudction studios and incorporate into their demo dvds...

 
Cause some people have better things to do than slide a bunch of rails for 3 weeks. Come on man...

NS has become the official gathering of the world's dumbest people.

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I kind of think redtape and Exact science were team videos for Dynastar and Rossignol, care to correct me?

 
J: Thank you for bringing entertainment to my otherwise mundane Monday afternoon

I'm the liar?? You wrote that at 9:30 PM. Looks like you spent your evening crafting that fine piece of rhetoric. Why hide that?

Now back to me being a liar . . . you think I lie when I say:

All I said was that it would be nice if ski movies worked like skate movies

Look at my first post . . .

In Summary, skate videos have team videos in which all of the riders commit to that video and have solid parts. I wish ski videos were like that. Why is that not possible in skiing?

In other words, I'm saying I wish ski movies worked like skate movies. Where's the discrepancy? How is this a lie?

 
Me: Your moral overtones are pathetic.

You: Huh?

Me: "I'm not questioning Pep's integrity."

You: Neither am I, I thought we were talking about "his semi-commitment to PBP"... right?

Do you remember writing this?:

Furthermore, Thomas_Skier, you are in no possition to be questioning what you think is "Pep's lack of commitment to PBP". You don't know the first thing about it.

That's what I would call a lecture with moral overtones. My reply is that I'm not questioning Pep's integrity by pointing out that he didn't film exclusively with Poor Boyz. I'm only pointing out that if Pep had filmed with Poor Boyz in the same way that Jamie Thomas, for example, filmed with Toy Machine in Welcome to Hell, then maybe Pep's closing segment in War would have been as epic as Jamie Thomas' closing segment.

I think Pep is the best skier in the world, and I know he wouldn't think I was disrespecting him if he read this.

I never said that Pep SHOULD have filmed only with PBP, I only specualted that his part would have been better and longer. That's not claiming to "know" anything. And I don't think it's such a controversial thing to say.

I'll ask you again: Do you really think that Pep would not have a longer, better part with PBP if he spent his time filming with MSP filming with PBP instead?

Also, you're still a deusche bag and you still suck at editing, no matter what the chorus of idiots on this website say.

 
Pep Fujas: "I think I’ll be a lot more focused [next year]. I’m just going to concentrate my energy on producing one film segment."

from http://powdermag.com/features/onlineexclusive/pep-fujas/

Jibtech:

Furthermore, Thomas_Skier, you are in no possition to be questioning what you think is "Pep's lack of commitment to PBP". You don't know the first thing about it.

Again, I'm not questioning Pep's integrity, I'm only saying that I think next year, when he puts his energy into one segment, it will be truely epic. I know how good Pep is, and I'm only complementing him by pointing out that his segment in War didn't completely showcase his talent.

 
being close to a film company is what its all about, its like a second family

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god damn lol these kids make me laugh

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i got one word for you....NINTHWARD

and i got a few choice words for thomas_skier or whatever.....dont talk shit to levin, he jsut completely owned you

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i dont want to sound like a suck up to someone in the industry(you know just cause he is kinda thing) but thomas mate dont star shit with levin he knows more about this shit than you...and also talkin abuot moral overtones or some shit...stop with the whole."im so intelectual so therefore my opinion is more valid" i personally think that all your posts are filled with coutless contradictions of you points which also are wrong so im not sure what point your even trying to get across now.....but wrapping things up basically dude you havent got the faintest idea on the subject and still cant understand after numerous attempts by you fellow newschoolerians to tell you otherwise.........fuck off.....two cents?

like a bisexual......yes ted that was the joke.
 
regardless of the point you might be trying to make, it's worthless to disagree with levin on newschoolers dot com, he has more sway than any other member of this site. he could come on here saying the sky was orange and half the kids on the site would believe him (foreground foliage anyone?).

that being said, a team video for skiing would be fuckloads harder to put together than a team skate vid. you don't have to wait weeks for skateboarding conditions to be just right, ya know?

PS. i still say pep's seg in 1242 was better than in WAR. there i said it. flame away on me. i'm drunk.

-Strode

 
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