Why Marijuana Should Stay Illegal!

Bulky

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I dont agree with this topic at all but i have to give a speech on it. so give me some ideas why we should keep weed illegal.
 
this would be great but im debating someone else who will be pro legalization so he will destroy those arguments.
 
I had to do a health project on it soo say its addictive, has 4 times the tar of a cigarrete apparently, and causes 14% or something of car accidents.
 
yeah, theres no way to win this argument. It's like an argument about whether DDT helped save millions of lives from malaria, or a debate on evolution. youll prob get destroyed.
 
ha i am well aware of this.... the only thing i thought of was that i could act as a small time pot dealer so i could be anit legalization, because it would cut into my business. but that way im kinda agreeing with the other person anyway.
 
DEA would be out of some jobs. you could probably bullshit that for a while maybe? your opposer is just gonna have so much more of a stronger argument it doesnt even matter lol
 
You are screwed but just say is it bad for your health, and I guess that it will put DEA people out of jobs and ummm it makes you lazy and unproductive? haha that is all I have
 
Say you can't think of any legitimate reasons of why it should be illegal in the 1st place so you have no arguments on why it should stay illegal.
 
oh oh i have some decent facts that you can twist:

marijuana smoke kills lung cells. Unlike cigarette smoke, which kills off cells, but allows them to grow back (with the potential for mutation, i.e. cancer), marijuana smoke kills cells and does not allow the to regrow.

the chemical THC essentially blocks the synapses in your brain, making it harder for you to think quickly, and remember things BUT these THC blockages dissolve over time.
 
Talk about the fact that although it is not physically addictive, it is no question causes mental dependency. This cannot be argued well.

You could also talk about how even in Amsterdam, where Marijuana was once legal, they are now starting to retract some of its legality because of crime. There should be a ton of info on this on the web, so there will be a lot of backup. Just gotta search to find it.

You could go with the argument that it should be "Decriminalized" rather than made legal. A lot of extremely reputable people think this, so I am sure you could find things out about it. Pretty much saying that it would give all of the benefits without the same societal shock that legalizing it would have.

That is all I got.

 
^all the stuff above

watch "the union: the business behind getting high" and takes notes on the part where they talk about how the dealers/growers dont want it to be legal cuz they'd lose the massive profit that they are making
 
Just sau that you knew a kid who got really baked and hten he tryed to get hit by a bunch of busses and couldnt make it because he collapsed and couldnt move.
 
Although those would work, I would highly suggest not going with facts that your debater has definitely prepared for.

It is guaranteed that at some point in the debate, the person against you will bring up the fact that alcohol is legal, and argue that alcohol is a million times worse than weed, therefore weed should be legalized.

Rather than countering this argument by stating useless facts about health, go a different route. Bring up the fact that the US is the most alcohol ridden country, but not because alcohol is inherrantly bad, but because of the fact that it is ILLEGAL for kids to drink it. Then you can use facts about countries that have decriminalized the act of drinking as a minor and how they have extremely low alcohol problems. Then you can tie this back into the idea that marijuana should be decriminalized.

There is no way the opposing side would have any idea about what to do if you did this.
 
i mean, technically inhaling smoke is not beneficial to your lungs. and it cant be that good for your brain. and a point it can cause skitzifrania.
 
Do some research on this, this is one of the biggest reasons, that and alcohol companies don't want people switchin to smokin trees instead of slammin beers, even though those who pound beers now will probably just do both. Search the internet though and you should be able to find loads of information. Its about lobbyist and right now, marijuana doesn't have any big companies backing it to push lobbying.
 
I hope the guy your debating hasn't watched "The Union"...lol

You could talk about the negative aspects of inhaling smoke...but even thats kind weak because you can cook with weed or vaporize it to avoid the smoke...
 
dont say any of this, because none of its true and you'l get raped if the other side actually knows what they're talking about

oh and if you're going to bring up the argument about it being addictive, find the stat online somewhere(or watch the union) that says somthin like 80-90% of the people in rehab are kids for weed. unless they reeeeeeeeeally know what they're talking about, they wont be able to refute an actual statistic.

for those that wonder why that is and would like to know, its because when caught with possession, a judge says you can either go to jail, or go to rehab, and obviously the judge/lawyer/parents tell the kid to go to rehab. no kid is actually going to go to jail, so the govt gets to point to that statistic.

also, say it kills brain cells. there was a study in the 70's (again, watch the union for more details and actual cite-able info) but i believe it was under the reagan administration that "proved" it caused brain damage. they gave monkeys a dosage of 3 joints a day for a year or something, and they found that all the monkeys died that had been smoking because their brain cells died.

again, for those that want to know why this is, it's because instead of filling the air with 1 joint 3 times a day, they put gas masks on the monkeys and suffocated them with smoke for like 5 minutes, pumping something like 20 j's into their mouths, multiple times a day, for like 2 months without any additional oxygen. the monkeys lost brain cells because of lack of oxygen to the brain, not because the marijuana. again, i dont remember the exact specifics, but you get the point. just watch the video
 
because whenever someone gets into a car accident, they test to see if the person is under the influence of any sort of drugs or alcohol.
 
if the u.s. legalized it for a few years they would save enough money to buy all the opium in the world and destroy it.
 
and studies actually show that people are more cautious after smoking weed, and therefor better drivers

and i agree with you nomensteve. when using these facts, you should ask your teacher at the end of the debate, after they decided who won, to let everyone know the truth behind the "facts", especially the ones in the union.
 
interesting non-fact.

An easy comeback would be to say that our war on marijuana in all reality keeps the US afloat. It gives so many people jobs. DEA, Police, border patrol, prison guards, construction workers (working on prisons), and etc. It is a chain reaction that keeps a huge amount of people employed.
 
READ THIS!!! It is long, but it is worth it.

Okay, here is an argument that I just thought of. This will not be expected by anyone, and therefore will win you the debate.

You need to in essence agree with the person that you are debating, but use their facts against them. Here is how you will do it...

They will of course be talking about how Marijuana is a non-addicting, harmless drug. Rather than argue that, say that you agree. After a couple of seconds, with your opponent staring confused, begin your attack.

"Because Marijuana is a harmless drug, and everyone can agree on that, I can safely say that we would all much rather have our kids and others in society interested in it rather than more harmful drugs. Because marijuana is illegal, we have created a need and desire for the drug, and therefore a vast underground for people such as drug dealers to profit off of it. Most would argue that this is a bad thing, but I disagree.

If we were to legalize marijuana, this "pot underground" would disappear. There would no longer be a need for people to hide their affiliation with marijuana, and all of the profit would be sucked away from it... marijuana dealers would vanish. And everything would work out, for a little while.

The people who used to deal marijuana are not just going to fully disappear, they still need to make money to survive. So rather than dealing a harmless, non-addictive drug, they will move to dealing harder drugs. Marijuana will no longer be seen as something that is taboo, so there will emerge a new underground market for an even worse drug that is addictive, is harmful, and will eventually debilitate our nation.

By keeping marijuana illegal, we are supporting people's use of a non-addictive, non-gateway, harmless herb that keeps them calm and focused. If we make it legal, we will in effect support the use and profit from much worse drugs that we have no idea of the consequences of. "

 
....they cant test to see if they were under the influence of marijuana DURING the crash...they can only test if they had it in their system, wich means they could of smoked it 2 weeks ago..and would still show up as positive.
 
It is all about the surprise factor. In a debate, people have to think on their feet. I don't necessarily believe the argument that I just made, it is the idea that no one would ever think to prepare for it. So although, after thinking about it for a while, you have thought of a questionable rebuttal, the fact that YOUR OWN FACTS were used against you makes me look good.

On another topic, why wouldn't marijuana be made legal for teenagers? I believe the debate had nothing to do with age. And if it isn't bad for you, why not make it legal for everyone? Look at alcohol— a topic you brought up, mind you -the fact that it is illegal for minors to consume alcohol has, arguably, created far more problems than would have occurred had it been legal for children to drink at a young age... look at Europe.

Again, not that I necessarily believe in anything I am saying, it is all about winning a debate. The fact that I am using YOUR OWN FACTS against you is not helping you at all.
 
Because it can possibly increase the risk of young users developing schitzophrenia.

This could possibly be dis-proved through more testing however.
 
haha ya man, no offense but that ideas not very solid.
re-read what you wrote and break it down, your basically saying if people can smoke weed they will start doing coke, if we legalize coke people will start doing acid, if we legalize acid people will do heroine.
people dont smoke pot cause its illegal and cool. people smoke it cause they like it.
rape is illegal, people dont go around raping people cause its illegal and breaking the law is cool.
legalizing dope wouldnt at all mean your supporting the use of other drugs? and i highly highly doubt the niche for harsher drugs would go up. also, im pretty sure society and the government has a damn good idea of the consequences to every drug imaginable.
and mary-j isnt a harmless drug, it has many health risks, just like cigarettes, alcohol, junk food, tan in a box, and many other things that are legal because the government has found a way to tax it.
in my eyes weed will never be legal until the states says its ok. fuck police practically turn their back to it in canada cause they have better things to worry about like jeeze i dunno, murder? but will never be legalized because the states has this whole tight ass war on drugs thing going. there is no way canada being allies with the states can legalize a drug the states spends billions of dollars a year to try and criminalize and control.
and the only time the states will say it is ok is when they figure out a way to control it. think about what would go into making weed legal. it would either be sub-contracted to companies much like the tobacco industry, where independent companies can manufacture and sell pre-rolled or pre-packaged dope and the government taxes the shit out of it.or, the government would have to manufacture and sell it themselves much like the medical mary j system right now. which will never happen.
so i wouldnt be crossing any fingers for legalization.
there are many arguments for why it should stay illegal, you just gotta thing outside the health and gateway drug box.
start thinking about things like impaired driving, how would they police it? drinking and driving is 0.08mL, what exactly is too high to drive? are they going to administer a road side blood test? who is going to fund these road side blood test? who is going to fund the technology for blood analysis? is it against a persons rights to legally force them to give blood under the suspicion of marijuana use? what if their not high, can they sure claiming bodily harm? what if their diabetic? what if their negative o blood type? what if they have aids, std's, etc etc etc
how about things like designated smoking areas? cigarettes are being more and more controlled in society and people must smoke outside buildings and atleast 100m from entrances to not disturb non smokers, so does that mean the weed smokers can smoke with the smokers? what about smokers who dont smoke weed? will the government make two separate designated areas outside all government buildings? install private building by-laws, bars, restaurants so on and so forth.
what about the possession of drug paraphernalia? having it isnt illegal, having it with marijuana in your possession is. so if they legalize dope does that mean i can smoke a bong while im driving? hit a vaporizer on city halls front door step? will rolling papers be government manufactured?
the key to winning your debate isnt to agree with the opponent. the idea is to come up with shit that will blow their fucking mind that if they had another week to think about the topic, they still wouldn't think of your specific point.
good luck
 
word man. Good argument.

The whole point of this thread is not to argue about whether or not pot should be legal, the idea is to help this kid win the debate. It is nice to see some who realize this.

Marijuana will not be legalized in the US in the foreseeable future, just as the drinking age will not be lowered to 18. Even though it may make sense to do such things, the only people

who care enough are people who don't hold much power in the political world.

What you said is right, it is about thinking outside of the box. My idea was just one way of doing so. It was off the top of my head, it was a bit off the wall, but the idea that some middle schooler is going to be able to come back to that is unlikely.

TO the OP---> Don't use the normal gateway drug, bad for your health arguments. Think outside of the box and do something that is unexpected and poignant.

 
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