dave, go to whiteface. everyonecalls it whiteface, but for real, its not that bad. when it snows, it really snows.. the glades are obviouly not like jay, but they are steep and challenging. also as jake said, the new Lookout peak is impervious to wind, and will hold snow.. but overall, its worth getting a pass. also, a lot of really good skiiers are there.. you'll get to know everyone too.
hope to see you there!