What do you think of fat people

13718438:miroz said:
That's not enough of a change, you're still talking training and eating with a purpose. I'm talking no activity, like couch/bedrest. Does that push it from beyond "discomfort" that can be overcome to something that would drive you insane? Now imagine none of your friends or connections were there to support you in that lifestyle change.

What I'm trying to point out is that your point of view is fully focused by your experience, personal preferences, and lifestyle. I'm trying to highlight the reverse situation so you can see how it can be difficult to radically change lifestyle. Again, not saying that being fat is healthy or good or that there's nothing that overweight people can/should do about it. I'm not saying that they should deny that their are health consequences for their weight or lifestyle. I only disagree with you on the fact that changing lifestyle (especially one that is engrained and reinforced) is harder than you make it out to be.
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I simply disagree. If you want to do something, you will. It is that easy IMO. There is not a single person I am friends with that goes to the gym, pays any attention to their diet, or doesn't drink multiple beers/drinks 6 days a week.

Yet, I somehow manage to maintain my muscle mass and eat a diet conducive to my healthy lifestyle.

Also, I'm naturally lazy. I strongly dislike going to the gym. I had mono last year and frankly it wasn't that bad, borderline enjoyable. I just laid on my couch under blankets high on opiates watching netflix for 16 hours a day for a week straight. But then I forced myself to slowly get back into a healthy lifestyle. I still have to begrudgingly force myself into the gym for maintenance.

Changing habits takes about 2 weeks. If that is too long for someone to be uncomfortable, then fuck them. They don't know what hardship is. These generations have gone soft. Life's is fucking hard and it's not fair. You have to work hard for a good life.
 
13718456:californiagrown said:
I simply disagree. If you want to do something, you will. It is that easy IMO. There is not a single person I am friends with that goes to the gym, pays any attention to their diet, or doesn't drink multiple beers/drinks 6 days a week.

Yet, I somehow manage to maintain my muscle mass and eat a diet conducive to my healthy lifestyle.

Also, I'm naturally lazy. I strongly dislike going to the gym. I had mono last year and frankly it wasn't that bad, borderline enjoyable. I just laid on my couch under blankets high on opiates watching netflix for 16 hours a day for a week straight. But then I forced myself to slowly get back into a healthy lifestyle. I still have to begrudgingly force myself into the gym for maintenance.

Changing habits takes about 2 weeks. If that is too long for someone to be uncomfortable, then fuck them. They don't know what hardship is. These generations have gone soft. Life's is fucking hard and it's not fair. You have to work hard for a good life.
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milos is right, you're completely ignoring an outside perspective. It might be easy for you, might be easy for someone you know, you claim you're lazy and then say its hard to go to the gym, but you're still talking about yourself.

Milos is right that changing your routine, for more people, is extremely difficult. Its easy to say "just change it" but for some people its not that easy. You claim how lazy you are yet you are able to change your habits instantly, but for others its nearly impossible to do so and its not because they are lazy.

You could argue that unhealthy people are not lazy, yet super motivated about everything but staying healthy, ie someone who works 80hrs a week in a cubical and has barely enough time to stuff their face before they fall asleep and wake up 5 hrs later to go back to work.

Being unhealthy does not mean you are lazy, at all. People only have so much free time, some dont wanna spend an hour in the gym, so they chose to be less healthy.

Anyways, i just wanted to add my two cents, carry on arguing.
 
13718460:eheath said:
milos is right, you're completely ignoring an outside perspective. It might be easy for you, might be easy for someone you know, you claim you're lazy and then say its hard to go to the gym, but you're still talking about yourself.

Milos is right that changing your routine, for more people, is extremely difficult. Its easy to say "just change it" but for some people its not that easy. You claim how lazy you are yet you are able to change your habits instantly, but for others its nearly impossible to do so and its not because they are lazy.

You could argue that unhealthy people are not lazy, yet super motivated about everything but staying healthy, ie someone who works 80hrs a week in a cubical and has barely enough time to stuff their face before they fall asleep and wake up 5 hrs later to go back to work.

Being unhealthy does not mean you are lazy, at all. People only have so much free time, some dont wanna spend an hour in the gym, so they chose to be less healthy.

Anyways, i just wanted to add my two cents, carry on arguing.
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It's not easy for anyone. But too many people shy away from the discomfort that goes along with it.

If someone is working 80hrs a week, ya know what's quicker and just as cheap as fast food? A fucking premade salad with water.

IMO it comes down to people shying away from discomfort, and not wanting to put in more than a minimum amount of effort in life. I think that sucks.

The reason I'm talking about me, is because only I know how hard things are for me. You only know you. How do you know its not more difficult for me, than most? If you want to go down that philosophical rabbithole, I'm not going to join you haha, but you hopefully see the point im trying to make.
 
13718470:californiagrown said:
It's not easy for anyone. But too many people shy away from the discomfort that goes along with it.

If someone is working 80hrs a week, ya know what's quicker and just as cheap as fast food? A fucking premade salad with water.

IMO it comes down to people shying away from discomfort, and not wanting to put in more than a minimum amount of effort in life. I think that sucks.

The reason I'm talking about me, is because only I know how hard things are for me. You only know you. How do you know its not more difficult for me, than most? If you want to go down that philosophical rabbithole, I'm not going to join you haha, but you hopefully see the point im trying to make.
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I totally get what you're saying, but that contradicts everything you're saying, its harder for some people and if its harder for you then great, ill give you a pat on the back. Some people love to work out, go on a 10 mile hike, bike 30 miles, most people don't.
 
13718480:eheath said:
I totally get what you're saying, but that contradicts everything you're saying, its harder for some people and if its harder for you then great, ill give you a pat on the back. Some people love to work out, go on a 10 mile hike, bike 30 miles, most people don't.
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Exactly, they aren't working out or eating right because they don't like doing it right now. It causes them discomfort for a few weeks before the new habits become normal and feel good. They know it is important for their health and general quality if life, but the short term comfort of doing nothing wins out.

That is pure, unadulterated laziness to me.
 
A big big issue, from my POV, is that people view a healthy lifestyle as optional instead of mandatory. Possibly to justify their own laziness.
 
Any time I go to a pool and there is a fatty there I have to resist the urge to fist their black hole sized belly button
 
what I don't understand is the instagram "plus size models" who promote being huge and support obesity even though it's really unhealthy. it's sweet that you're happy with your body and all that, but how about less time posting about how comfortable you are with your excessive weight and more time fighting off heart disease and diabetes?

also instagram has taught me that anyone can be a model if you just put it in your name.
 
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