What are Trump protesters expecting to achieve?

13780159:Campeador said:
How do you "KNOW", exactly? Even in his recording he crudely talks how they let him do it. Few people were swayed by the left-wing media's made-up narrative. Perhaps if they had given him fair coverage before, more would have been swayed.

I'm sure you're going to talk about those women who came forth very conveniently only a month before the election, just about all of them were proven to be liars.

You call sexual assault a huge problem, yet your positions suggest otherwise.

You get upset when I talk poorly about the people who engage in sexual assault in the largest numbers, Muslim men, and the religion that actively promotes sexual assault, Islam.

You also had no problem in supporting a woman (even tacitly) who has a husband who was (and probably continues to be) an actual sexual predator.

Few people can fit that much cognitive dissonance into one frame, but you're a special case.
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13780160:eheath said:
Ha, I knew you'd bring islam/muslums into this. You are the worst kind of troll.
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You lose.

No real argument can flow through those all those layers of flesh and cognitive dissonance.
 
13780161:Campeador said:
You lose.

No real argument can flow through those all those layers of flesh and cognitive dissonance.
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I have no intention on arguing with you, since you're just trolling (although i wouldn't be surprised if you actually believe most of this stuff) its a waste of my time and frankly you're a shitty person I would never associate myself with. Good day.
 
13780164:hotdog. said:
Except neither of those sparked intelligent discourse they simply gave the media new throw-away stories and clickbait titles.
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That's not entirely true, wealth equality is a huge topic of discussion now. Black lives matter is a bit less but it still put a huge spotlight on violence between police and citizens.

I think that the womens march will have even more impact, especially because of the size of the protest. It will cause conversation about womens rights (which TBH we think the US is so progressive, but we saw the same thing with Black Lives Matter, tons of violence was happening and it wasnt necessarily being highlighted) and I think women still feel like they're not equal to men, which is 100% true.

I also think that this sort of large protest shows the people of america that their voice matters, I foresee many different protests with larges groups of people nation wide happening again, especially with trump in office. Again, none of this will likely change policy, but it will be influential on change in the future.
 
13780159:Campeador said:
You also had no problem in supporting a woman (even tacitly) who has a husband who was (and probably continues to be) an actual sexual predator.

Few people can fit that much cognitive dissonance into one frame, but you're a special case.
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Trump = the alleged sexual predator (Trump is the active agent in the situation)

Hillary = married to an alleged sexual predator (Hillary is not the active agent in the situation)

How exactly is Trump in the better of the 2 scenarios here?
 
13780193:onenerdykid said:
Trump = the alleged sexual predator (Trump is the active agent in the situation)

Hillary = married to an alleged sexual predator (Hillary is not the active agent in the situation)

How exactly is Trump in the better of the 2 scenarios here?
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Not making claims for whether he's better or worse, but anyone that voted for Hillary also voted to put another alleged sexual predator back in the White House by extension.
 
My point being no one who voted for Hillary has any ground to stand on with the whole "you voted for a sexual predator" line. Anyone who voted for Hillary also voted for an alleged sexual predator, didn't she say voting for her was getting a 2 for 1 deal?

Not to mention, the evidence against Clinton is far more damning than anything leveled against Trump.
 
13780162:eheath said:
I have no intention on arguing with you, since you're just trolling (although i wouldn't be surprised if you actually believe most of this stuff) its a waste of my time and frankly you're a shitty person I would never associate myself with. Good day.
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Awww, what's the matter Truffle Shuffle?

You're the one who engaged me in conversation again (and originally).
 
13780122:onenerdykid said:
Left and right don't matter at all. Just judge the situation for what it is.
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If only. It seems to me that most people only look at left and right without even considering the situation.
 
13780159:Campeador said:
How do you "KNOW", exactly? Even in his recording he crudely talks how they let him do it. Few people were swayed by the left-wing media's made-up narrative. Perhaps if they had given him fair coverage before, more would have been swayed.

I'm sure you're going to talk about those women who came forth very conveniently only a month before the election, just about all of them were proven to be liars.

You call sexual assault a huge problem, yet your positions suggest otherwise.

You get upset when I talk poorly about the people who engage in sexual assault in the largest numbers, Muslim men, and the religion that actively promotes sexual assault, Islam.

You also had no problem in supporting a woman (even tacitly) who has a husband who was (and probably continues to be) an actual sexual predator.

Few people can fit that much cognitive dissonance into one frame, but you're a special case.
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lick that boot!
 
13780261:No.Quarter said:
If only. It seems to me that most people only look at left and right without even considering the situation.
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Exactly. It is beyond ridiculous. As if the entirety of human ideas are easily lumped into either LEFT or RIGHT categorization. Please. A good idea is a good idea, a bad idea is bad idea. Judge them as such and get on with it.

And what many people here are failing to recognize is that America's version of "left" is the world's version of "center" or "center-right". In the grand scheme of global politics, Obama or Hillary are no where near the "left" side of the spectrum.
 
13779629:californiagrown said:
Protests aren't democratic?

Protests don't change much in a democracy?

History says different, but hey, why let facts get in the way of your opinion?
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They aren't trying to change anything! They're just out there saying they disagree. Though I don't know if they even know what they are disagreeing with??
 
13780534:milk_man said:
They aren't trying to change anything! They're just out there saying they disagree. Though I don't know if they even know what they are disagreeing with??
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That's super cool you get to be the spokesperson for all women's day protestors! How did you apply? Was the interview process hard? Lol.

Yes the protestors disagree with the current administration that very obviously goes against their interests. They protest en mass to rally support and show millions do not support the policies of the new administration. Public pressure is a very effective tool on effecting change.
 
13780570:californiagrown said:
That's super cool you get to be the spokesperson for all women's day protestors! How did you apply? Was the interview process hard? Lol.

Yes the protestors disagree with the current administration that very obviously goes against their interests. They protest en mass to rally support and show millions do not support the policies of the new administration. Public pressure is a very effective tool on effecting change.
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So they're protesting our president. Other than that they are protesting nothing. So with what I originally said, they can't change anything. Protests don't change anything (in situations like this). Doesn't mean they don't help their cause, but it will never cause the change they are looking for
 
13780702:milk_man said:
So they're protesting our president. Other than that they are protesting nothing. So with what I originally said, they can't change anything. Protests don't change anything (in situations like this). Doesn't mean they don't help their cause, but it will never cause the change they are looking for
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Go read a history book you fucking idiot. That goes for the rest of you too who say it has no effect. The very fact you're discussing it is an effect...
 
13780702:milk_man said:
So they're protesting our president. Other than that they are protesting nothing. So with what I originally said, they can't change anything. Protests don't change anything (in situations like this). Doesn't mean they don't help their cause, but it will never cause the change they are looking for
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Wow. This is scary people are this blatantly ignorant of history, and/or just dumb.
 
Whats great about these "protests" is that they're actually hurting whatever cause they're supposedly out there marching for.
 
13780706:K-Dot. said:
Go read a history book you fucking idiot. That goes for the rest of you too who say it has no effect. The very fact you're discussing it is an effect...
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No. You read the history book. 90% of the time people protest oppression or specific things. And that's when things change. When you protest something that you cannot change, it doesn't change. Ohhh yeah you're "heard.." that's not a change
 
Not surprised to see muslims involved on various levels with this "women's" march, the irony.


This girl breaks it down pretty well.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy watching the Left self-destruct.
 
13780800:milk_man said:
No. You read the history book. 90% of the time people protest oppression or specific things. And that's when things change. When you protest something that you cannot change, it doesn't change. Ohhh yeah you're "heard.." that's not a change
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They are protesting specific things you thick sculled twat. Abortion rights, glass ceiling, etc.
 
13780918:Charlie_Kelly said:
They are protesting specific things you thick sculled twat. Abortion rights, glass ceiling, etc.
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Oh, I didn't know Donald trump did anything about abortion in the US yet. I mean, I hope he does.. but didn't know he did anything yet hahaha
 
At this point if you still consider yourself a liberal ("progressive", whatever), you should just be embarrassed.
 
13780963:oneill_sean said:
They should at least give him a chance, he might be a good president. I just hope he proves everyone wrong.
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You haven't been listening to his interviews or paid attention to his executive orders.

I suggest you do. It's getting scary how extreme he is getting, and how little understanding he has of consequences for his actions and words.
 
13781104:californiagrown said:
You haven't been listening to his interviews or paid attention to his executive orders.

I suggest you do. It's getting scary how extreme he is getting, and how little understanding he has of consequences for his actions and words.
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Extreme is bringing in tens of thousands of unvetted muslim migrants for the sake of "humanity".
 
Extreme is leaving the border wide open for tens of thousands of people to cross unrestricted.

Extreme is aiding and arming jihadists against the Syrian government.

Extreme is giving $150 billion dollars to Iran for a "nuke deal".

Extreme is adding $9 trillion to the debt over eight years, with almost nothing to show for it.

I could go on. Frankly, you're in no position to call anything "extreme".
 
13781166:Campeador said:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/7/us-cuts-syrian-refugee-screening-time-handle-surge/

Also, how exactly do you "vet" tens of thousands of people for which almost no records exist at all?
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You said no vetting. Did you lie or make a mistake? I'm curious....
 
13781167:californiagrown said:
You said no vetting. Did you lie or make a mistake? I'm curious....
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When you have no argument, fall back on semantics.

Three months may as well be nothing, I supposed the nuance is lost on you.
 
13781176:Campeador said:
When you have no argument, fall back on semantics.

Three months may as well be nothing, I supposed the nuance is lost on you.
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When you lie you blame semantics. Why not just say what you mean?
 
13779945:robbinJAHood said:
If you can look up some of the speeches of the influential women that spoke at the marches around the world, it will probably give you some insight to what it was about. You'll probably come to realize that each person was marching for a different reason. I had a long post typed up about it, but in reality I just don't think I have the right words to explain what's going on for our world so I'll just let someone else's words speak this time. As an 18 year old girl, I know it's horrifying to hear a man say to me the kind of things that Trump says about and to women. I feel so bad for his daughter. The things he says to her, just on camera, are disgusting and creepy.

If you can't find any speeches, look up Alicia Keys's speech and you should be able to find others along with hers.
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This!

People are marching and protesting to let their voices be heard. It also fucking terrifies me that the men in power could take away my choices for my body. As a 21 year old women who DID vote I fully support the PEACEFUL protests.
 
13781185:californiagrown said:
When you lie you blame semantics. Why not just say what you mean?
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Do you consider three months an appropriately long "vetting" process?

The way they tried flooding these fuckers in at the end, I wonder if it was even three months.
 
13781254:Ninskasi said:
People are marching and protesting to let their voices be heard. It also fucking terrifies me that the men in power could take away my choices for my body. As a 21 year old women who DID vote I fully support the PEACEFUL protests.
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You've got to love a "march for women" where one of the primary organizers and speakers, Linda Sarsour, is pro-Sharia muslim with family connections to Islamic terrorist organizations.

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See under Sharia law, you'd still be able to have your abortion for getting knocked up accidentally out of wedlock, the only difference is you'd be aborted too.

Islam and the Left, strange bedfellows.
 
13781238:humpty said:
Not your president? not your flag? well obviously this isnt your country either so get out
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Would you have lumped Confederate flag waiving Obama haters over the previous 8 years into that group too?
 
Find one example of actual conservatives burning a U.S. flag at a protest.

Burning U.S. flags as "protest" has been popular among people on the Left for decades now. It's fitting, given that that's what they want to do to the country as well.
 
13781261:Campeador said:
Do you consider three months an appropriately long "vetting" process?

The way they tried flooding these fuckers in at the end, I wonder if it was even three months.
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Depends how it's done. I love the idea of extreme vetting. I would much rather take those 10k border security trump promised and use that money and some of the manpower for the extreme vetting department. Get it done quick, get it done thorough! But I do not think we should be closing our borders to the extent I think you mean.

Also, I have no problem with the idea of a southern wall. I just think all of Trump's plans for it are laughably shortsighted, ignorant, and infeasible (I'm a professional in the construction world).
 
13781476:Campeador said:
Find one example of actual conservatives burning a U.S. flag at a protest.

Burning U.S. flags as "protest" has been popular among people on the Left for decades now. It's fitting, given that that's what they want to do to the country as well.
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Dylann Roof for starters.
 
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