are you kidding me? these have to be the absolute worst glove i have ever owned/dropped $100 on. pieces of CRAP. not only are they dakine's most expensive glove, they are also:
-not water proof
-not warm
i live on the west coast where our winters can't touch east coast winters temperature-wise and holy mother-father they are terrible. my hands freeze when it's -1 degree!. hell, they'll freeze when it's warmer than that.
worst.glove.ever.
nobody buy this glove, not now, not ever!