Wake up NS

JeffersonDavis

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I know for most of you HS aged pricks, voting for a black guy with an exotic and unconventional name such as Barack Obama who promises "Change" might seem appealing and cool. What you don't realize is that he will put into play similar referendums which are leading to the downfall of European Culture.

Since the great liberalization of the continent on the other side of the Atlantic, Immigrants from Turkey, the Middle East, and Africa have flooded into France, England, Germany, Belgium etc to live large off attractive government welfare subsidies(Hussein Obama is a fan) at the expense of tax paying French, German etc citizens. These immigrants not only dilute and tear the great two thousand year old institution of Western Culture, they destabilize entire countries native blue collar working class, leading to massive unemployment and civil unrest (French riots of last summer). Couple that with socialized healthcare, (which may sound sick to all you fucking lazy ass ski bums without health insurance for when you tear an ACL) where doctor's are underpaid,suffer from low morale, and are without the latest and greatest medical advancements(which are developed in the US due to our privatized healthcare industry) and it becomes apparent that the United States is headed on a crash course with full fledged contemporary Western European Socialism.

If Hussein Obama gets elected, brace yourselves for massive riots, spiraling unemployment, incompetent doctors, massive foreign debt, and a mass exodus of the rich (WHO PAY MOST OF THIS FUCKING COUNTRIES' TAXES) to Cayman islands or elsewhere abroad who don't feel like living under a Black Jimmy Carter.
 
word. Dude incased you havent noticed in life... never talk about politcs it gets you 0 friends and starts fights
 
its fucking rad. It is the impetus that allows researchers to develop Viagra, the Jarvick Heart, Zanex, pacemakers, artificial organs, and intensive research on possible cures for contagious diseases. It ensures there will always be a steady supply of doctors, who are willing to spend their twenties slaving away in the library and in some shitty urban hospital to get that MD, for the promise of a multiple six or seven figure income.

Who will want to become a doctor and waste 14 years of life in school without at least a 250,000 dollar income?
 
hahahaha i still dont get this whole mass exodus of the rich thing. really? do you people honestly think that just because their taxes are higher they are all gonna leave. they got rich here they will get even more rich here. they arent going anywhere.
 
they are not proving his point. at all.

and as for the thread creator... that was the worst piece of garbage ive ever read. do yourself and everyone else a favor and never try to impose your opinion on other people again. there are so many things wrong with your post i wont bother listing them, besides the fact that referring to barack as "hussein" only shows how fucking retarded you are
 
every single person who has said "i stopped reading" DOES prove his point ever more. The fact that the only tid bit you can refute- correction- counter attack (i doubt you possess the intelligence to actually refute the assertions and historical testimony of the thread) is the usage of "hessein" shows how fucking retarded you are.

I personally have found this to be an incredibly intelligent thread with enormous insight- to a degree i myself have never even before considered- that is backed up with solid current event empirical evidence.

I will be EXTREMELY shocked if any nser who disagrees with jefferson davis can actually scrap together a counterargument for what he is saying.
 
hahahaha dude you are such a clown. if you really find this thread to be "incredibly intelligent" with "enormous insight" then i dont really feel a need to waste time arguing with you. do you honestly thing there will be massive riots?
massive debt? what the fuck are you talking about? we already HAVE a massive debt. mass exodus of the rich? give me a break
 
The next time you want to click the "Quote Reply" link, and think you have some snide comment to make, please do some research.

The cayman islands require no taxes from its citizens.

There have been over 100,000 corporations incorporated in the cayman islands.

There is an import tax but almost all companies incorporated in the cayman islands deal with banking, exchange, securities investment, or fund transfer.

The current situation of companies incorporating themselves in the cayman islands is a humongous issue for the OECD, the TIEA, and the American people. So far under Bush, the US treasury department has been making decent strides in preventing tax evasion. Mainly the TIEA has loosened hostility towards the Cayman securities and exchange commission as well as homeland taxation. More importantly, the US offers more incentives for companies to incorporate in the US finally balancing the privilege of being traded on the NYSE with the penalty of taxation.
 
thats awesome that the cayman islands have that. im being realistic here though... its just not gonna happen.
 
I don't need a counterargument, he just sounds like a stuck up, i-think-im-totally-BA-because-i-copy-paste-articles-as-my-own-words-douche.

But to throw in my opinion for shits and giggles.

rant

I could care less what he has to say or what anyone on ns says. when is comes to obama, i could care less what he is going to do. As long as we don't have another republican president then im going to sit back and enjoy the ride, because everything a democrat is going to do is going to be better than a republican, period. You know why? Because most democrats are reasonable pussies and because of that, they won't start wars, they won't start a draft, or any other stupid bullshit the republicans have done/will do. Sure it might be kind of shitty if we need to go to war, but bill sure did a great job at balancing war when he needed to. Sure republicans a tough fighters and usually aren't pussies, 90% of the time they are retards, but for now, in our situation we are in, we need a democrat. Tell me im wrong, i dont care, save your time, because im not going to read your response if it has anything to do with: you are an idiot, you are wrong, etc, etc.

/rant.
 
I honestly do think there is a potential for riots among blue collar workers. Protests happen around the US every day and if the current condition of the economy worsens to a point where the american people are taxed into oblivion then yes there most definitely will be riots.

Jefferson Davis is talking about increased debt in relation to our GDP. A country is comfortably sustainable if its outstanding debt is equal to or less than 3% of their annual GDP. Ours, at 9.1 trillion, is only about 2.1% of our GDP and will fall to about 1.9-1.8% of our GDP by 2012. Now imagine if we were to expand upon the already blood-sucking department known as Health and Human Services. If you factor social security commision into health and human services, it constitutes a whopping 56% of our federal budget for the fiscal year of 2008. Imagine if obama were to increase spending by 668 BILLION dollars (projected and somewhat confirmed figure by obama himself). Our debt increase between FY08 and FY09 would be the single largest increase in debt in one FY. And before you go say something about bush, as a percent of GDP, bush has not increased the debt at all (from a statistical standpoint).
 
i dont understand this mindset. where would funding for schools, police, defense etc come from with no taxes? it is a FACT that we could not have the free enterprise you "earn" your money in without taxes that fund the enforcement of private contracts
 
hahahahaha, great point!

seriously, have you ever took a history course in your life, even less a sociology class with philosophy? How about you take your racist comments and stop arguing about stuff you hear on FOX news.
 
i read the whole damn thing. I i accept your challenge Ju. First of all it's Barack Obama, man stop calling him by his middle name, second of all when bush was and still is president there aren't massive riots becuase he's one of the worst in History. I feel that you're going against the american dream by saying that immigrants will ruin the country. Rich people won't leave man, that's just crazy. ill post more n this later...
 
dude you missed my point. that was a sarcastic thats awesome not a serious one (e sarcasm meter needed lol) my point was that lets be real here. the entire rich population of the us is not gonna get up and leave when obama wins.
 
it already does happen though. The cayman islands are home to over 7,000 banks that deal with almost entirely US citizen's funds. If you ever play online poker or something then you'll know that all of the banks are based in the cayman islands. Imagine if all 7,000 of those banks were based in the US. We would be much, much more porsperous. That would be like injecting maybe 7 trillion or so dollars over a few years right into our economy.
 
would you like to submit my initial post into turnitin.com or google it perhaps?

There was no plagiarism involved whatsoever on my initial post, don't you think if I really wanted to plagiarize an article or short essay regarding Barack Obama and the current socioeconomic situation in Europe I could come up with something better than that?
 
that was one of the dumbest most conceptually and grammatically disgusting group of words ever said. i fail to draw any point or insight from that whatsoever... WTF are you trying to say?
 
Don't care, save your typing time to argue some stupid ass point with somebody else.
 
7 trillion dollars. im not gonna do the research cuz i frankly dont feel like it right now but that estimate seems way off. i realize some people have done it and mebbe i few more will but this mass exodus people are making it seem is gonna happen simply isnt. im not doing research im being fucking realistic.

 
The American dream has nothing to do with immigration, and history has proven time and time again a large, poor, disenfranchised, and unassimilated group of aliens living in a nation will be a destabilizing influence which will lead to the downfall of the society...examples: Rome, Palestine Pre 1948
 
dude it already happens to a degree that disgusts me. Did you know the cayman islands have the largest amount of assests under management second to only the us itself? Out of any other offshore financial country, the cayman islands have the strongest and largest presence in the US securitisation market. Do you know why that is? its because the top .2% of the US mainly those making 8 figures move to the cayman islands but still trade in the US to avoid taxation.
 
The American Dream has E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G! to do with immigration. What right wing Nazi ass upbringing did you have, that you have such a closed mind. You are from immigrant decent that is unless you are 100% Native American. Chances are your ancestors came to this country looking for a better future, and you want to go and deny that to everyone. You are an ignorant arrogant prick. Open your KKK ass mind. Shit. Dont reproduce and help everyone else out.
 
so heres the thing. i personally think that that its never gonna happen. but if its happening now with Bush in office.... then its gonna happen no matter whos in office. mccain isnt that diff from bush so regardless i guess its gonna happen. no matter which way you wanna look at your evidence.
 
1) high school kids cant vote, why is this adressed to them.
2) bush put us in a pretty big hole, would you want to vote for Mccain, who has similar stands on issues, or someone who is diferent Why i'm so big on the change thing with Barrack is that bush fucked us, and it'd be nice to get something different please.
3) stop calling him hussein. Thats mad low.

And to the kids who didn't read this, c'mon, your not helping yourselves by not reading i just because it's different.

And for the record, i was for ron paul
 
Here in Canada we have free healthcare and its pretty good. And destablize western culture ?? What Western culture? the USA is a land of immigrants, it doesn't have any specific culture unlike countries in Europe that have a rich and diverse history which shaped their culture. I guess this also depends on what you define as culture....
 
i dont think youre getting (or rather capable of understanding) his point.... He's saying UNASSIMILATED, DISENFRANCHISED mass group of aliens is a destabilizing force. What part of that is false? Its fine if you have a few from there and a few from here and they all come to the us legally, assimilate, work hard legally, study, and make 6 figures (aka my parents). Its a totally different issue when you have a million mexicans swarming into our southwest isolating and illegally working. I know its not the immigrants' faults that their lives suck but it should be upon the shoulders of the mexican people and government to improve their own standards of living rather than invading ours.
 
very true man. maybe his definition of western culture is blacks/whites and if so then he's a huge douch
 
really? i dont see a ton of americans clamoring for the jobs of landscaper and farmworkers, and alot of the jobs that they take. im not saying its right and i do agree that we need some immigration reform, but these immigrants are not the awful people that we make them out to be, they help alot.
 
How many of those ppl are their? Really, the immigrants coming to the United states are looking for jobs, not to wear on society. So to be fully assimilated they need to make 6 figures a year? Step down from your rich ass pedestal. I know plenty of immigrants who work 10x harder than the average american, just because they dont make 6 figures a year like your parents, doesnt mean that they are a wear on society. seriously tho dude, quit thinking that because your parents did well that everyone can. At my place of employment a greater percentage of workers are immigrants rather than natively born americans. I know for a fact they they are trying to make a better life for their family. Dont look down on every immigrant because of a few DISENFRANCHISED, or UNASSIMILATED arent working so hard. But your right im incapable of understanding what this douchebag is trying to say, Fuck you.
 
what im saying Ju is that you need to stop post whoring this thread. This person has radical views against Obama. Do you really think that we will be worse off with a democrat as president? NO! in history jefferson davis was a confederate, probably a racist. Do you think we can trust jeffersondavis? NO.
 
If we do not get control of our borders, by 2050 Americans of

European descent will be a minority in the nation their ancestors

created and built. No nation has ever undergone so radical a

demographic transformation and survived.- Pat Buchanan

As Rome passed away, so, the West is passing away, from the same causes

and in much the same way. What the Danube and Rhine were to Rome, the

Rio Grande and Mediterranean are to America and Europe, the frontiers

of a civilization no longer defended.- Pat Buchanan

Like the Paris riots, the struggle over French history raises grave

questions for Europe. How does the presence of 20 million Muslims who

come from nations where men believe their grandfathers were exploited

and persecuted by Europeans advance the unity and security of Europe?

How is Europe made stronger by such "diversity"?- Pat Buchanan

Islamization of Europe is an unavoidable consequence, indeed, an

inevitability, once Europe ceased to reproduce itself. The descendants

of the men who went out from Europe to conquer and Christianize the

world have decided to leave the world. The culture of death triumphs,

as the poor but fecund Muslims, expelled centuries ago, return to

inherit the estate.- Pat Buchanan
 
Oh NO! WHITE PEOPLE WILL NOT BE THE MAJORITY!!! HEAD FOR THE HILLS!!...like i said before you are a racist, arrogant, ignorant, prick.

When your sources are Pat Buchanan i lose all respect for you, not that i had any after i read half this thread.
 
does jefferson really have a quote in his sig that is against skiing? I mean PJ has a point, but are you just here to start fights?
 
WRONG. the united states itself survived. we fucking WIPED OUT the native americans. they are basically gone from the country, yet its still standing, and this isnt even CLOSE to the same level of problem.
 
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