Vegas: The US is Not Mature Enough for Guns
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BrawnTrends
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13854020:-eREKTion- said:
400 millions guns and 25 trillions rounds of ammunition...sounds like enough for personal protection or even for militia, no? Keep what you have and ban the sales of any new firearms and ammo. Yearly pysh eval wouldn't hurt either, just to make sure only the "good guys" keep their legal guns.
-eREKTion-
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13854039:BrawnTrends said:
Liberals always talk about how they're "logical" and they want "common sense" gun control but then say shit like this. What's common sense or logical about banning the sale of new firearms? Do you know what percentage of firearms used in crimes were legally purchased by the offender? Less than 10%, so what would banning new firearms do? Get a grip, man. Like I said, civilians legally own 400 million guns and 25 trillion rounds of ammo, if legal gun owners were a problem you'd fucking know about it.
BrawnTrends
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Where do you think the illegally owned guns come from? Criminals made them from scratch, or something? They were all legally bought at some point.
-eREKTion-
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13854076:BrawnTrends said:
Home invasions account for a significant amount of "ghost guns". Importation is the other major source.
270on420out
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13854065:-eREKTion- said:
We do know about it. There's a new mass shooting ever 4 weeks
WoFIowz
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13854079:DIRTYBUBBLE said:
Yeah if you define mass shooting as any homicide with 3 or more people involved. That includes crazy husbands who kill their families, and gangbangers. In general I think of a mass shooting as ones that are random and in a public place. Those are the ones that make the news and make people fight for change.
Using that as a definition of mass shooting is like saying assault rifle like it is a brand of firearm or something. Wtf is an assault rifle for fuck sakes. So annoying to hear on the news. You mean AR-15? AR= armalite rifle originally. Not assault rifle. Plus in terms of semi auto rifles, AR-15 are the least deadly.
DMadd11883
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13852485:DIRTYBUBBLE said:
The wait is over dude. Did you just see the shooting in Texas? It was stopped after an NRA instructor shot the guy.
270on420out
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13854114:DMadd11883 said:
Yeah the shooter was able to kill 20+ people with his AR, but since some random NRA instructor shot him with his that makes it alright.
-eREKTion-
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13854201:DIRTYBUBBLE said:
Maybe if more people had guns he'd have been stopped faster.
270on420out
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13854203:-eREKTion- said:
Well fuck then why don't we give everyone a gun? Every mentally stable, able-bodied, civilian with a clean record, over the age of 21 is required to carry one in areas with more than X number of people per capita. We'll give a 9MM to every doctor, lawyer, electrician, accountant, engineer, etc. We'll be giving them to the neighbor who drinks himself into a stupor at the local bar, the couple down the road with the domestic violence/anger problems, the guy with severe road rage, the guy with undiagnosed schizophrenia, the guy who found out his girlfriend was cheating on him with his colleague, etc. Surely all the fun violence will go away?
BrawnTrends
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That's what the NRA wants. Let everyone have guns (even the crazies), so the streets will be so unsafe than even the anti-gun advocates will end up buying guns for protection. Win-win.
BrawnTrends
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13854324:milk_man said:
So what do we do to stop people killing other people?
DMadd11883
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13854201:DIRTYBUBBLE said:
More people would have died if the instructor wouldn't have stepped in is that what you want? And of course that "makes it alright" the guy killed 20 people defending yourself is always alright.
1spliff2guinnies
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It's a fundamental right in America. I wish my country gave me the right to my own self-preservation,
Auzy
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13854790:FIRAT said:
After a quick google search It looks like the only two reasons to own a gun in the Netherlands is for hunting and target shooting, you can’t carry for self defense. So even if we adopted these laws people could still buy and own all kinds of large caliber rifles for hunting, hand guns for target practice as awell as shotguns and semi automatic rifles like AR-15’s the only difference would be It would strip the right of the people to defend themselves by carrying. How would that help America?
BrawnTrends
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13854807:Auzy said:
Except in most european countries you need an actual permit to be able to buy a firearm. Either a hunting permit (for which you need to take classes, etc), or proof you're part of a target shooting club (for which only some types of firearms are authorized). It's not as easy as going to a store (which there aren't that many to begin with), pass a background check and leave with a gun.
And this is why people don't really own guns over here.
FIRAT
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What are you talking about? And how would your guns have stopped that? I haven't seen any shootings that have been balked by people with guns (statistically speaking countries with less guns have less deaths by guns)
**This post was edited on Nov 12th 2017 at 3:21:11pm
13854837:B.Gillis said:
**This post was edited on Nov 12th 2017 at 3:21:11pm
profa_212
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13854822:FIRAT said:
USA has over 18 times larger population, the US has is almost 240 times larger, the US has a far more diverse population, the US has a much larger gang problem, the US has a much larger drug trade, etc etc. You can not simply look at another country and say do that.
Ive said it before and I will say it again. Mental health needs to be taken seriously. Never once has a sane person walked into a crowed area and started blasting.
13854837:B.Gillis said:
Thats what I was thinking
BrawnTrends
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13854843:Profahoben_212 said:
Obviously mental health is a major factor. But so is the easy access to guns. And you never know when someone can snap. Even people who seemed perfectly sane.