Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition

Hooray, I love flat tube and more flat tube. You can do so much fun stuff with tubes and no one seems to be able to. Sunshine had a pole jam to down tube last season along with a mini tabletop gap to down. Best features I've ever skied

14588457:hi_vis360 said:
Snowboarders build better and more creative parks, skiers are obsessed with boring features
 
14588457:hi_vis360 said:
Snowboarders build better and more creative parks, skiers are obsessed with boring features

Factual statement. I remember one time at love pass I put a log in front of the DFD so I could do some baby crusher tricks on it with some snowboarders and some other skiers came over from the flat tube and asked if they could take out the log to session the dfd. Obvs let them but after two hits (no exaggeration) of not even trying anything they just went back to the flat tube for another few hours. It makes no sense sometimes like how do people not get bored.
 
Huge fat tubes (diameter of 18"+ like what Copper has) are harder than smaller diameter tubes (like 12" max) and less fun than any other jib feature.
 
14588507:Farmville420 said:
Factual statement. I remember one time at love pass I put a log in front of the DFD so I could do some baby crusher tricks on it with some snowboarders and some other skiers came over from the flat tube and asked if they could take out the log to session the dfd. Obvs let them but after two hits (no exaggeration) of not even trying anything they just went back to the flat tube for another few hours. It makes no sense sometimes like how do people not get bored.

I could and have hiked a flat tube for hours. So many different variation of tricks you can do with very little consequence.
 
14588727:TOAST. said:
I could and have hiked a flat tube for hours. So many different variation of tricks you can do with very little consequence.

Yeah I mean that's the idea but at Love Pass every feature is low consequence and we have had plenty of skiers get upset whenever we decide to build anything remotely difficult if it involves using one of the 10 pvc tubes there. Even if we leave the main flat tube and build using the smaller tubes, skiers still get mad that we are using space that could be used for another flat tube or basic down tube.
 
14588742:Farmville420 said:
Yeah I mean that's the idea but at Love Pass every feature is low consequence and we have had plenty of skiers get upset whenever we decide to build anything remotely difficult if it involves using one of the 10 pvc tubes there. Even if we leave the main flat tube and build using the smaller tubes, skiers still get mad that we are using space that could be used for another flat tube or basic down tube.

A jib line should have some variety. Every year my mountian has a sick whaletail box onto a down rail. (best photo I could find.)

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14588985:armchair_skier said:
Gloves are cool now

Also it’s been warm as fuck this season so I’ve worn my mittens like once

wrong, the answer is extremely thin mittens (ones with holes for ventilation encouraged).

Gloves are still ugly
 
I cut my thumb open once at App Ski Mtn. I fell without gloves on and hand hit the edge. Lady lectured me for like 10 minutes at ski patrol/first aid lol

14589226:Thegenericskier said:
gloves should only be used when riding with poles, without poles gloves are unacceptable
 
Flat spin is when you set forward and your hips don't go above your head. It's called a flat spin and it only makes sense that you would spin on a flat axis. Also StompIt tutorial guy agrees with me and usually he knows what's up (sorta). I swear everyone says it's the other way around, but I will die on this hill if need be.
 
14589247:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
I cut my thumb open once at App Ski Mtn. I fell without gloves on and hand hit the edge. Lady lectured me for like 10 minutes at ski patrol/first aid lol

That's why you need thin/unlined mitts.
 
14589258:Lemuel said:
I have the Jon Olsson Cross suit in 2xl and it’s fucking sick

The white and brown one? There was one for sale around here last year I shoulda sprung. It's like a luxury G suit haha. The black and white one from a few years later was cool too
 
14589278:Slowbro said:
The white and brown one? There was one for sale around here last year I shoulda sprung. It's like a luxury G suit haha. The black and white one from a few years later was cool too

I have the black and white one, not sure I’m familiar with the white and brown.
 
14589259:Dr_Richard_Hertz said:
Flat spin is when you set forward and your hips don't go above your head. It's called a flat spin and it only makes sense that you would spin on a flat axis. Also StompIt tutorial guy agrees with me and usually he knows what's up (sorta). I swear everyone says it's the other way around, but I will die on this hill if need be.

I’ll die on that hill with you my dude. The flat 3 / wackflip debate gets me every time. The only way to do a true flat 3 would be in a pipe.
 
14589281:Lemuel said:
I have the black and white one, not sure I’m familiar with the white and brow

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14589283:Lemuel said:
I’ll die on that hill with you my dude. The flat 3 / wackflip debate gets me every time. The only way to do a true flat 3 would be in a pipe.


I can flat 3 on jumps without going inverted, but it gets exponentially harder as jumps get bigger. And yeah a real flat 3 shouldn't be inverted, but no one calls inverted ones rodeo 3s so now people think that rodeos aren't inverted and flats are.
 
14589287:Slowbro said:

I can flat 3 on jumps without going inverted, but it gets exponentially harder as jumps get bigger. And yeah a real flat 3 shouldn't be inverted, but no one calls inverted ones rodeo 3s so now people think that rodeos aren't inverted and flats are.

I don’t even understand how either axis works
 
14589351:Rock_Inhabitant said:
I don’t even understand how either axis works

flat and rodeo? A flatspin is bringing your feet up in front of you and then across your body, a rodeo is kicking a leg over the opposite shoulder and flipping on a crooked axis. In practice though people use both terms for both tricks, and when you add a lot of spin they become hard to tell apart from bios too. I probably just made it more confusing for you
 
14589354:Slowbro said:
flat and rodeo? A flatspin is bringing your feet up in front of you and then across your body, a rodeo is kicking a leg over the opposite shoulder and flipping on a crooked axis. In practice though people use both terms for both tricks, and when you add a lot of spin they become hard to tell apart from bios too. I probably just made it more confusing for you

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
 
14588545:ReturnToMonkey said:
Huge fat tubes (diameter of 18"+ like what Copper has) are harder than smaller diameter tubes (like 12" max) and less fun than any other jib feature.

My local has a 36" fat tubed called "big red" and it's insanely fun, but yeah it's nice being able to properly grip with your edges
 
14589259:Dr_Richard_Hertz said:
Flat spin is when you set forward and your hips don't go above your head.

Set it forward? Can you elaborate cuz I genuinely want to hear you out on this. The way most people seem to do flat3s is with hips above head, and set backwards. Sounds like you're describing an orbital?
 
14589259:Dr_Richard_Hertz said:
Flat spin is when you set forward and your hips don't go above your head. It's called a flat spin and it only makes sense that you would spin on a flat axis. Also StompIt tutorial guy agrees with me and usually he knows what's up (sorta). I swear everyone says it's the other way around, but I will die on this hill if need be.

it's not that people say it's the other way around, it's just that the trick has been ruined by freeride bros who want to say they can do something other than a backflip. and it's bad too. i mean literally as long as you grab japan, you did a flat 3 in these kiddos eyes.
 
14591691:TOAST. said:
rasta colored ski gear is just about as lame as it gets.

Trends/fashion run on about a 20 year cycle. There are vids from 1999 with dudes rocking track pants looking like peak new wave magnus. Since Rasta stuff was coolest from 2008 - 2012 ish, I think it will make a comeback in a few years or so
 
14591693:hi_vis360 said:
Trends/fashion run on about a 20 year cycle. There are vids from 1999 with dudes rocking track pants looking like peak new wave magnus. Since Rasta stuff was coolest from 2008 - 2012 ish, I think it will make a comeback in a few years or so

this has been my opinion since 2006 and will continue well into the future. thank God it isn't as prevalent as it was in the early 2010s.
 
14591696:TOAST. said:
this has been my opinion since 2006 and will continue well into the future. thank God it isn't as prevalent as it was in the early 2010s.

You just need to be more INSPIYAAAD
 
Unpopular opinion from an experienced skier who is mediocre at the park: The parks here in the European Alps are too much focussed on the expert park riders and are filled with gigantic features, rails and jumps. A lot of people just want small jumps and flat tubes / boxes to progress safely. I think this is why so many beginners jump the lip of rails without doing the rail, just because there are too little small jumps in the park. Most of the time there's only 1 flat tube and the next step is a big downrail with no in-between. Don't get me wrong, I know small lines and beginner parks exist but just not enough to represent the number of beginner park/freestyle skiers.
 
Ski resorts should be abolished, they only bring high costs and regulations to a place that is way more fun in its undeveloped/free form.
 
14591879:Alvaro said:
Ski resorts should be abolished, they only bring high costs and regulations to a place that is way more fun in its undeveloped/free form.

Genuinely curious where you live to believe this is true
 
14591885:Farmville420 said:
Genuinely curious where you live to believe this is true

Chile, natural terrain stays fun to ride most of the season here tho, maybe somewhere like the east coast in the US may need some more intervention to not suck
 
14591889:Alvaro said:
Chile, natural terrain stays fun to ride most of the season here tho, maybe somewhere like the east coast in the US may need some more intervention to not suck

Okay that makes total sense, yeah Chile would probably be sick but in a lot of north American resorts without resorts and snowmaking there just wouldn't be skiing at all
 
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