Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition

14557497:Pablo_Sanchez said:
How can you say that and then comment “but why?” On bpc 2

also I agree with the pivot 14 comment, especially Henriks custom(?) pivot 16s with the 14 toe
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Cuz it honestly scares me seeing them doing that shit. They’re amazing skiers and they’re going to get hurt af sending it like that
 
14556357:cool270out said:
Even though people are getting better at skiing every year and increasingly going into the streets, style has gone to the wayside. People like edjoy, Dan bacher, and orscar weary who only do skiing maneuvers if they can make them look super fluid and personalized. Singular styles like hornbeck, jeff keisel, and khai kreppa are so rare now. People need to use their brains to think of ways to stand out in a new way. There’s always something. Look at Lucas magoon. He can do tricks that many other people can do, but there is absolutely no mistaking it’s him. He’s put the effort into making each trick truly his own. Idk, I’m tired of seeing amazing skiers do generic looking backslides to back 4s or whatever. Ian Compton was mastering one footed rail shit literally a decade ago
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Well said, I think sleepy grill has the most unique style atm
 
14557595:sindreplassen said:
love that dude. I feel like most people nowadays either try to emulate henrik or ferdi and it ends up looking like shit. skiing is pretty stale rn
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Lot of people seem to be inspired by Kai Mahler too
 
14557471:nCrow said:
The tricks definitely weren't close to the craziest either of those guys have done, but it's still a better, more stylish edit than 95% of the cookie-cutter content being put out right now
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I actually disagree heavily, I think there was definitely filler but a lot of the clips of henrik were some of his best and most technical street shots yet. And I would consider this type of video extremely cookie-cutter by dollo standards lol
 
Would definitely be nice to see dollo switch up the formula a bit. It was iconic for a while but I think we all could go without seeing another video of him pretending to be gangster with another Griselda song about selling cocaine. It just feels hella repetitive at this point.
 
Just watch and thought it was pretty good. Noah's opening section and song were probably my favorite part. Deff some hammers, but also a lot of filler (Am I missing something with the trick at 5:30? Two angles?)
 
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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It's super dope that they don't allow boarders at Alta wtf are you talking about
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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it's one place out of 100's. is it really that big a deal? If there was a snowboard only mountain, I def would just say cool, let them have their mountain. I wouldn't feel discriminated against. they don't allow frisbee golf at Augusta, but not filing a lawsuit to get in there.
 
That's fine with me. I don't want Alta to be anything like Brighton (Except for the cheaper tickets).

Also Snowbird has pretty much the same terrain, but has infrastructure that makes more sense for boarders. they can just go there.

14557947:K-Dot. said:
Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding.
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**This post was edited on Oct 16th 2023 at 6:08:49pm
 
can't speak to alta but mrg is definitely a more enjoyable and cool place than any other east coast resort.

it's nice not having a stanky weed mountain with all of the snow scraped off the moguls.
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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I agree but that doesn't mean I'm not going to laugh every time a snowboarding claims it's discrimination as if snowboarding is inherent to personahood the way race and gender are.
 
14557953:3mania said:
it's one place out of 100's. is it really that big a deal? If there was a snowboard only mountain, I def would just say cool, let them have their mountain. I wouldn't feel discriminated against. they don't allow frisbee golf at Augusta, but not filing a lawsuit to get in there.
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It’s not that big of a deal. The main people making it a big deal are the people enforcing it at Alta. Every other hill doesn’t care, why do they care so much? The argument goes both ways.

Snowboarders saying they should be there on grounds of discrimination or whatever is also stupid. They should be there because everybody should be able to chill together. It’s not complicated, it’s the golden rule that they teach in kindergarten.
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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I ain't readin allat
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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Find me a snowboarder that wants to do laps across the High T.

Alta-another long traverse ahead
 
14557957:SteezyYeeter said:
mrg is definitely a stanky weed mountain with all of the snow scraped off the moguls.
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Fixed it for ya.

MRG is special, and I’ve only been twice on shit days. Glen Plake talks about it / skier only hills and why it makes sense at places like MRG in a podcast that I’m blanking on. — Out of Bounds probably??

Like said above, if there was a snowboard only mountain there would likely be no complaints from skiers. It’s a few places. And a majority of my friends are boarders.

**This post was edited on Oct 16th 2023 at 8:58:38pm
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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Idk man it makes sense to me. From what I’ve heard there’s a lot of traversing at Alta, easy on skis but damn near impossible to do it on a board. Some days at bridger snowboarders would mess up traverses around high T.

Not like Alta is the most expensive mtn I’ve ever seen either I’d get a pass anywhere else besides there, I’m sure they don’t care about having boarders
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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Preach. Skiing is really fucking sick but snowboarding is no less sicker than skiing. Park / street skiing has very accurately been following what snowboarding has already done for so many years now. Especially trends. I doubt this site would even exist if it wasn’t for snowboarding as well as skating. If you’re not looking up to snowboarders and their videos, you’re doing it wrong.
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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Yea this ain't it, chief. Snowbird is next door, boarders can go there if they want. Alta being one of the few remaining skiers-only resorts keeps it special. It's their choice as a resort to remain that way, not everything in life needs to be fully-inclusive (assuming exclusions are not based on something like race, etc. obviously).
 
gonna get hate for this one:

steepsteep isn’t that bad, he’s annoying and cringe but puts groms onto some core shit sometimes, he gets more hate than is warranted.
 
14561551:egirl.ski said:
gonna get hate for this one:

steepsteep isn’t that bad, he’s annoying and cringe but puts groms onto some core shit sometimes, he gets more hate than is warranted.
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You just wanna bone him.
 
14561551:egirl.ski said:
gonna get hate for this one:

steepsteep isn’t that bad, he’s annoying and cringe but puts groms onto some core shit sometimes, he gets more hate than is warranted.
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actually this is dumb as fuck i don’t think this i just didn’t sleep last night
 
14557947:K-Dot. said:
Alta still not allowing snowboarders is just dumb at this point and I say that as someone who has owned a season pass there for plenty of seasons and fully understand and love the community there.

At the end of the movie Johnny Tsunami, one of the main takeaways is that Johnny brings together the snowboarders and skiers and squashes the beef between them, uniting the two sides of the mountain so that everyone can just chill together after he beats the prep school skier kid in a race down the mountain. It was filmed at Brighton in 1999 and is a pretty apt analogy of Brighton and Alta. Brighton allows anyone while essentially neighboring Alta who forbids snowboarding. Freeskiing is an outgrowth of snowboarding, love it or hate it, it’s true. You wouldn’t be hitting rails or doing urban or even viewing the mountain the same if snowboarding hadn’t gotten the ball rolling. Yeah dudes like Glen Plake set the scene for charging lines but as far as park and street skiing go and the general attitude, style, clothing and approach, freestyle skiing owes it to snowboarding. Nothing about freeskiing history is tarnished by admitting this fact, snowboarders are my friends, always have been, always will be.

Alta refusing snowboarders just feels stuck in this old ski racing mindset. It doesn’t make sense. I get that they can legally do whatever they want but it doesn’t make it right or logical. It just feels like a vestige of an old, white, posh, upper class attitude that no one in skiing really even has at this point. Alta is for skiers, and it should also be for snowboarders.
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For me, the last 5+ years of the Cottonwoods just being hammered with crowds, traffic, congestion, etc., and all the in-fighting between locals and ikon passholders/tourists, and how territorial people have gotten like its some old school "Locals Only" surfer beef is what started turning me a bit off from skiing LCC regularly. It's definitely kinda gotten like Johnny Tsunami in a real silly way. Amazing terrain and some amazing people there for sure but all my buddies who regularly skied Alta treated it like it was a super secret country club and Im like "Bro its just up the street from Snowbird, relax"
 
Ski movies should be divided into segments for each rider. It’s cool how the current skate style movie flows but idk who tf is skiing unless it’s a movie like daycare where I know everyone. Like I didn’t even know Seamans Flanagan was in zootspace until someone on here gave him a shoutout
 
He’s really not that bad. Sometimes his excited screaming is annoying but I can appreciate what he’s doing and how he grows the sports

14561566:egirl.ski said:
actually this is dumb as fuck i don’t think this i just didn’t sleep last night
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14561684:cool270out said:
Ski movies should be divided into segments for each rider. It’s cool how the current skate style movie flows but idk who tf is skiing unless it’s a movie like daycare where I know everyone. Like I didn’t even know Seamans Flanagan was in zootspace until someone on here gave him a shoutout
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yeah I generally agree but there's pros and cons for both. For segments it's way easier to tell skiers apart and it's nice to see all of one person's clips in one place. For mixed segments you have more freedom to edit and choose songs. Also, if there's a skier that's less enjoyable to watch than others, I find it a lot more palatable if their clips are interspersed throughout. I think it depends on how many skiers you have in the video and how many clips each of them have.
 
14561696:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
He’s really not that bad. Sometimes his excited screaming is annoying but I can appreciate what he’s doing and how he grows the sports
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I appreciate that he breaks down tricks for people who aren't in the know but he also makes content that caters to people who don't really ski and is probably responsible for a lot of people buying dope snow. I don't fully dislike the guy, I just really don't like the way he represents skiing. I'm kinda torn cuz I don't want to denigrate someone for being successful for making content that gets some people stoked about skiing but at the same time it really bums me out that a youtuber got a pro model ski while there are so many hard working and skilled skiers who don't get anywhere near the same recognition. But I guess that's part of a broader problem within skiing
 
It’s not even a broader problem in skiing. It’s a broader problem in the “creator” economy. But idk man. It’s a different world. If we can’t differentiate and get eyeballs - more power to steepsteep. We freeskiers can be very gatekeepish so I don’t blame them for gravitating to him

14561704:Christian_Bale said:
I appreciate that he breaks down tricks for people who aren't in the know but he also makes content that caters to people who don't really ski and is probably responsible for a lot of people buying dope snow. I don't fully dislike the guy, I just really don't like the way he represents skiing. I'm kinda torn cuz I don't want to denigrate someone for being successful for making content that gets some people stoked about skiing but at the same time it really bums me out that a youtuber got a pro model ski while there are so many hard working and skilled skiers who don't get anywhere near the same recognition. But I guess that's part of a broader problem within skiing
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14558909:SteezyYeeter said:
i like him but 74 jordy is such a candide clone
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saying “candide clone” is like saying “Michael jordan” clone:

if you have a style anything like him you’re already an incredible skier.

i think i’d fw him heavy if he got a real outerwear sponsor.
 
14561744:egirl.ski said:
saying “candide clone” is like saying “Michael jordan” clone:

if you have a style anything like him you’re already an incredible skier.

i think i’d fw him heavy if he got a real outerwear sponsor.
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oh yeah hadn't thought about it like that.
 
making skiing with poles look fluid is harder than without. butttttt on a basic level skiing with poles is easier to look good than without
 
the majority of people in any given park would benefit greatly from skiing elsewhere on the mountain for some time to improve basic skiing ability.
 
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