Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition

14479868:Farmville420 said:
They’ve mellowed out. I haven’t been called slurs at the skatepark for rollerblading yet so I think skaters have definitely chilled tf out lol
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Yeah skaters are mostly fine with bladers now. I got approached by them a lot when I used to rollerblade.

I just see that all of my skater friends have the exact same narrow view on what’s cool and what isn’t and see anything that deviates from that even a little bit as wack, and they follow trends like crazy. Skiing isn’t quite like this yet but it’s getting there.
 
14479884:Slowbro said:
Yeah skaters are mostly fine with bladers now. I got approached by them a lot when I used to rollerblade.

I just see that all of my skater friends have the exact same narrow view on what’s cool and what isn’t and see anything that deviates from that even a little bit as wack, and they follow trends like crazy. Skiing isn’t quite like this yet but it’s getting there.
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ha ah... yea skiing definitely isn't like that lol
 
14479873:a_burger said:
semi related but I think its wack how hotdog skiing as a whole is basically just treated like a joke in freeskiing. There's a timeless style to some of those older tricks plus some pretty ahead of its time footy out there but all you every hear about is spread eagles, people crashing, and the figure skating angle on ski ballet vs the fact that it was basically a flatground contest. Those guys should get the same respect the dogtown crew does in skating
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Glenn Plake will forever be one of the greatest heroes of freeskiing.
 
14479884:Slowbro said:
Yeah skaters are mostly fine with bladers now. I got approached by them a lot when I used to rollerblade.

I just see that all of my skater friends have the exact same narrow view on what’s cool and what isn’t and see anything that deviates from that even a little bit as wack, and they follow trends like crazy. Skiing isn’t quite like this yet but it’s getting there.
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it’s definitely on the path to homogeneity, very evident in recent years. But same with skateboarding, those who separate themselves always find themselves at the top
 
Well said. I'll still watch weight and revolver every year, but were in a different age for sure...

14479102:Farmville420 said:
Not referring to liking people or giving flowers. I’m talking about people who are like “nothing will ever top stept! That shit was peak” as if they are still peak street skiing.

Same with anything really, not just street crews. I get putting respect on peoples names but but don’t sit here and tell me “no one will ever have style like brogan!” When I could name probably 50 style lords who all have infinitely better style than brogan ever did.

And on top of the hood was legendary but Magma I and II blow that shit out of the water any day of the week. Gonna sit and drool over Sammy Carlson throwing dubs on hood while hunter hess is doing triples off a natty quarter pipe like come on.

Shit irks me, we living in the best generation of skiers and ski films but everyone too busy dickriding old pros and getting caught up in nostalgia to even realize the best shit of all time is coming out now, not 10-15 years ago
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Any trick involving your hands touching the ground or rail looks stupid. Also those knee slides that people do on boxes take 0 skill and also look stupid.
 
14479526:hi_vis360 said:
Bro I was saying this and nobody listened, the bunch took pretty much all of their trick ideas from b & e but in the mid 2010s everybody just viewed tall t style and new wave style as polar opposites completely unrelated to each other, that shit was so silly and I’m glad it’s fading away

i still maintain that the true inventor of new wave is b mack though
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I'd say they were heavily influenced for sure but I think they went beyond that and did a lot of original and progressive stuff.

Fully agree with the Bmack statement
 
14479206:Farmville420 said:
Nah but HG skis kinda made it dark too. Stylistically I think a lot of the stept movies are pretty supreme but I meant the kids in the movies now are just better. You can’t tell me anyone from that era is touching joona sipola
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Idk I thought ETG, HGs most well-known video, wasn't very dark and actually made street skiing look really fun, to me least. Easily one of my favourite videos of all time
 
14479799:ajbski said:
riding pin bindings in resort is ok.

(if youre doing a trip that involves both inbounds and bc and youre travelling by plane)
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This is facts

Going to the pnw in january and I am not bringing 2 pairs of skis lol, I will be shredding baker on my kingpins

normalize shredding on pin bindings to increase the gnar factor
 
14480515:clindblomskier said:
This is facts

Going to the pnw in january and I am not bringing 2 pairs of skis lol, I will be shredding baker on my kingpins

normalize shredding on pin bindings to increase the gnar factor
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same but with freeraiders
 
The skiing YouTuber "Steep Steep" is obnoxious and annoying. His forced excitement and positivity is only a ploy to make his videos feel more entertaining then they really are.
 
14480735:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
The skiing YouTuber "Steep Steep" is obnoxious and annoying. His forced excitement and positivity is only a ploy to make his videos feel more entertaining then they really are.
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POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS IS SUCH A HOT TAKE.
 
14480756:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
Their parents need to take their ipads away and smack them

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I love watching ski-related vlog content on YouTube, but going batshit crazy while going down any trail in existence is just obnoxious. Same thing when he follow cam’d Jesper. Bro was tryna break a world record and all you can hear is “HOOOOO HOOOOOOO NO WAYYYYYY”
 
like 70% of skier/filmers are mega ass at fisheye and probably will never hit the level of filming perfection the snowboarders have
 
14480901:Jems said:
like 70% of skier/filmers are mega ass at fisheye and probably will never hit the level of filming perfection the snowboarders have
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I think it’s because a lot of snowboard crews have actual filmers, most ski crews can’t pay a filmer so everyone in the crew just films, of course you will get sus clips
 
14480904:sindreplassen said:
I think it’s because a lot of snowboard crews have actual filmers, most ski crews can’t pay a filmer so everyone in the crew just films, of course you will get sus clips
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snowboarders have been using the cameras every skier has flocked to recently for so much longer and they’re just way fucking better at tasteful filming and editing. hopefully skiing will hit this point but we still have a long way to go.
 
14480907:Jems said:
snowboarders have been using the cameras every skier has flocked to recently for so much longer and they’re just way fucking better at tasteful filming and editing. hopefully skiing will hit this point but we still have a long way to go.
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true, skiing doesn’t have a colton feldman or a bryden bowley. kinda tired of some of the “super 8” clips a lot of snowboarders throw in their vids though
 
14480911:sindreplassen said:
true, skiing doesn’t have a colton feldman or a bryden bowley. kinda tired of some of the “super 8” clips a lot of snowboarders throw in their vids though
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Colton's work is actually fucking beautiful, and yeah super 8 is wack unless its real but its played out by this point. someone in this mf community needs to try to top those guys lol.
 
14480915:Jems said:
Colton's work is actually fucking beautiful, and yeah super 8 is wack unless its real but its played out by this point. someone in this mf community needs to try to top those guys lol.
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colton is actually the goat, blender and good sport are perfection imo. a lot of it goes back to skateboarding tho
 
14480923:sindreplassen said:
Next year people are starting to tilt their cameras like strobeck did in mind goblin
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I wish P2 camera dudes took fisheye inspiration from vx filming (unless they're using an xtreme)
 
14480901:Jems said:
like 70% of skier/filmers are mega ass at fisheye and probably will never hit the level of filming perfection the snowboarders have
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filming skiing with a fisheye doesnt really make any sense picture wise.

skating it actually has a practical application and enhances the quality of the shot

will agree tho that snowboarders make it look better. prolly cuz most of em skate too and actually understand why/where a fisheye is necessary, as well as its intended use

but yeah, skiing and fisheye is cringe
 
14480925:chumbawumba said:
filming skiing with a fisheye doesnt really make any sense picture wise.

skating it actually has a practical application and enhances the quality of the shot

will agree tho that snowboarders make it look better. prolly cuz most of em skate too and actually understand why/where a fisheye is necessary, as well as its intended use

but yeah, skiing and fisheye is cringe
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how bruh? fisheye makes clips way less boring. you probably say fisheye and skiing is cringe because so many skiing filmers suck at fisheye.

[video]https://youtu.be/ZT1Hx-GzU2c[/video]
 
14480901:Jems said:
like 70% of skier/filmers are mega ass at fisheye and probably will never hit the level of filming perfection the snowboarders have
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I agree. "That's it That's All" is a snowboarding movie and I prefer it over any ski movie.

Although it's snowboarding, it's still able to capture that mountain sport feeling/energy better than any ski movie can.
 
14480989:STEEZUS_CHRI5T said:
I agree. "That's it That's All" is a snowboarding movie and I prefer it over any ski movie.

Although it's snowboarding, it's still able to capture that mountain sport feeling/energy better than any ski movie can.
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the level of riding and shooting is just a step above most others esp at that time. i wish it was edited a bit more like a normal movie and it gets a little hokey at times but god damn they rip it so fucking hard in that movie
 
14480924:Jems said:
I wish P2 camera dudes took fisheye inspiration from vx filming (unless they're using an xtreme)
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ugh tell me about it brotha, just waiting for a new extreme release so the value drops from like 160k
 
14480928:Jems said:
how bruh? fisheye makes clips way less boring. you probably say fisheye and skiing is cringe because so many skiing filmers suck at fisheye.

[video]https://youtu.be/ZT1Hx-GzU2c[/video]
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Unpopular opinion but this type of video is annoying asf, like just skateboard at that point lol

Skiing shouldn’t be presented like skateboarding because it’s so fundamentally different that it just looks goofy 90% of the time.
 
14481003:Farmville420 said:
Unpopular opinion but this type of video is annoying asf, like just skateboard at that point lol

Skiing shouldn’t be presented like skateboarding because it’s so fundamentally different that it just looks goofy 90% of the time.
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Definitely agree. Like watching snowboarding and skating videos is sick for inspiration and so much influence and style flows from them, but yeah just how you ski is so different being on two boards instead of one and in a totally different stance. It needs to be shown as its own thing and not trying to copy skate styles so much
 
14481010:nCrow said:
Definitely agree. Like watching snowboarding and skating videos is sick for inspiration and so much influence and style flows from them, but yeah just how you ski is so different being on two boards instead of one and in a totally different stance. It needs to be shown as its own thing and not trying to copy skate styles so much
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Exactly! Like it’s fine to use a fisheye when it actually enhances the shot (Keegan lip 2 ender in ETG was tasteful asf) but people should try and create their own culture and film styles instead of just doing literally exactly what skateboarding does lol
 
14480928:Jems said:
how bruh? fisheye makes clips way less boring. you probably say fisheye and skiing is cringe because so many skiing filmers suck at fisheye.

[video]https://youtu.be/ZT1Hx-GzU2c[/video]
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yeah im mostly saying that because most filmers simply think slapping a fisheye on will somehow increase the quality of the shot. it wont. the whole purpose of a fisheye lense is to make the center of the shot appear closer while still showcasing the rest of the environment.

im not a big urban/rail guy, but i can see how filming a street edit with a fisheye would be a practical option. it makes more sense in that scenario.

i think a majority of skiing looks a lot better when shot long lens while stationary though. maybe thats just because i prefer to watch dudes drop cliffs/hit booters/ski pow. but i would also say the same for a street edit. i think a lot of shots that people "folllow cam" would genuinely look better stationary. the only time a follow cam is really necessary IMO is for a 3 or 4 trick line. people just wanna be like skaters so they follow cam every god damn clip and it looks terrible

also i think fisheyes are just getting a little played out. wish more people would shoot stationary. zoom is your friend in the videography world
 
14481003:Farmville420 said:
Unpopular opinion but this type of video is annoying asf, like just skateboard at that point lol

Skiing shouldn’t be presented like skateboarding because it’s so fundamentally different that it just looks goofy 90% of the time.
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agreed
 
14481003:Farmville420 said:
Unpopular opinion but this type of video is annoying asf, like just skateboard at that point lol

Skiing shouldn’t be presented like skateboarding because it’s so fundamentally different that it just looks goofy 90% of the time.
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then how should it be presented? there’s very few ways to actually differ from anybody regarding filming styles. should skiers be strictly filmed long lens shots with zero variability in zoom because it’s copying skateboarding? should any fisheye clip that isnt shit be invalidated because it was filmed like skateboarders do? literally every skill and technique that makes your filming look less shit comes from skateboarding. are you a filmer? if you think it’s annoying and goofy then what’s your solution?
 
Fisheyes with vignette are wack cause you need to film it absolutely perfectly or it just isn’t right, and jumps are almost a lost cause unless you tie yourself to the skier with a rope so you can keep up. I find myself using a less extreme wide angle way more then a fish lens nowadays, same effect but a little more forgiveness
 
14481020:a_burger said:
Fisheyes with vignette are wack cause you need to film it absolutely perfectly or it just isn’t right, and jumps are almost a lost cause unless you tie yourself to the skier with a rope so you can keep up. I find myself using a less extreme wide angle way more then a fish lens nowadays, same effect but a little more forgiveness
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don’t you film on an hmc which has a massive reach on an opteka fisheye?
 
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