Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition

14424363:Farmville420 said:
Because it’s not really the reason why lol. Like everything he said is true but it’s not actually enough to rip apart edges. If quenching deformed the steel enough to the point of literally fracturing it, it wouldn’t have been an actual metal working process for centuries lmfao

Edge cracks occur when roughly 150-250 pounds of human slam down on it enough times for the cyclic loading to actually slowly deteriorate the lattice structure of the steel, or you bend the ski past the elastic modulus, or just plain slam so hard it cracks the steel.
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Lol yeah "heats up from the friction then hits cold snow."

Yep cus sliding a low-friction piece of metal for 0.7 seconds will sure heat up edges enough to heat treat them. The cracks totally don't happen from the repeated high amounts of bending and impact. It's definitely the thermal expansion/contraction cycles ?

Seriously though. I could see thermal effects partially at fault for edges pulling out from the ski, as the plastic has a higher CTE than steel, but they definitely don't cause cracks! I agree that steel edges need to be replaced with a new material, however anything that's suitable will make the price go way higher.
 
14424366:ReturnToMonkey said:
Lol yeah "heats up from the friction then hits cold snow."

Yep cus sliding a low-friction piece of metal for 0.7 seconds will sure heat up edges enough to heat treat them. The cracks totally don't happen from the repeated high amounts of bending and impact. It's definitely the thermal expansion/contraction cycles ?

Seriously though. I could see thermal effects partially at fault for edges pulling out from the ski, as the plastic has a higher CTE than steel, but they definitely don't cause cracks! I agree that steel edges need to be replaced with a new material, however anything that's suitable will make the price go way higher.
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Oh yeah you also reminded another reason why that dudes statement makes no sense, the fact that the rails are fucking greased and that the energy that’s released from the friction isn’t even close enough to deform the steel. It’s not even technically quenching because the steel doesn’t really even deform until like, a few hundred degrees Celsius. For reference, the skis would need to be hot enough to ignite your gloves on contact in order for the thermal contraction and expansion to even be technically called “quenching”. And even if it was that hot, it still wouldn’t crack the metal lmfao
 
14424366:ReturnToMonkey said:
Lol yeah "heats up from the friction then hits cold snow."

Yep cus sliding a low-friction piece of metal for 0.7 seconds will sure heat up edges enough to heat treat them. The cracks totally don't happen from the repeated high amounts of bending and impact. It's definitely the thermal expansion/contraction cycles ?

Seriously though. I could see thermal effects partially at fault for edges pulling out from the ski, as the plastic has a higher CTE than steel, but they definitely don't cause cracks! I agree that steel edges need to be replaced with a new material, however anything that's suitable will make the price go way higher.
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That's kind of the point though, a tempered steel is much tougher than a hardened steel because a tempered steel is somewhat malleable. When a steel is heat treated and not tempered it could become brittle, so forces that would otherwise bend the steel would cause a brittle fracture. It's not out of the realm of possibility that standing on some 2.5x2.5mm thin metal bars and sliding on them with your body weight at 20mph will generate enough friction to get pretty dang hot for a short period of time.
 
14424429:Biffbarf said:
That's kind of the point though, a tempered steel is much tougher than a hardened steel because a tempered steel is somewhat malleable. When a steel is heat treated and not tempered it could become brittle, so forces that would otherwise bend the steel would cause a brittle fracture. It's not out of the realm of possibility that standing on some 2.5x2.5mm thin metal bars and sliding on them with your body weight at 20mph will generate enough friction to get pretty dang hot for a short period of time.
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Facts, this is why nobody does safety grabs off rails, you would burn your hand.
 
14424363:Farmville420 said:
Because it’s not really the reason why lol. Like everything he said is true but it’s not actually enough to rip apart edges. If quenching deformed the steel enough to the point of literally fracturing it, it wouldn’t have been an actual metal working process for centuries lmfao

Edge cracks occur when roughly 150-250 pounds of human slam down on it enough times for the cyclic loading to actually slowly deteriorate the lattice structure of the steel, or you bend the ski past the elastic modulus, or just plain slam so hard it cracks the steel.
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There are different methods of heat treatment but most besides very brittle tool steels are cooled down or normalized at a rate slower than quenching old style so they're not too brittle. A steel that gets red hot and quenched on ice likely wouldn't even be flexible enough to shape onto a ski profile without snapping.
 
14424435:Biffbarf said:
There are different methods of heat treatment but most besides very brittle tool steels are cooled down or normalized at a rate slower than quenching old style so they're not too brittle. A steel that gets red hot and quenched on ice likely wouldn't even be flexible enough to shape onto a ski profile without snapping.
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Yeah yeah I know. I was just saying the dude thought that grinding rails and landing on snow was the comparable to literally quenching the steel edges of skis, which we all agree is just like the most incorrect statement ever lol
 
14420727:hi_vis360 said:
The line blade is just a worse version of a carving ski for people who are too image obsessed to rip on a carving ski
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The blade would be a better version of a carving ski if it wasn't a noodle and had more metal
 
14422161:SchizoSkier said:
Skin tight pants, bb belt and vlone shirt crammed awkwardly over hoodie is fire wym
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Don’t care what u have to say, but u got a carti pfp so I gotta upvote

**This post was edited on Apr 10th 2022 at 1:00:29pm
 
14425009:Pakanaka said:
Frontslides look better but are harder than backslides
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backslides are definitely the most played out trick in contemporary skiing, like yes they're cool but at this point do something creative with it like doing 1 foot swaps.
 
I don’t know how to put it into words but Nick Lomax in grindshoes is 200x more style than any backslide on skis I’ve seen.

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1039557/trim-627B7DB5-1C8E-4811-AC8F-DEAE59A72495-MOV[/video]

14425009:Pakanaka said:
Frontslides look better but are harder than backslides
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Lowkey I think this looks cool but also goofy and not even close to as stylish as if he had skis on.

14425237:d5r said:
I don’t know how to put it into words but Nick Lomax in grindshoes is 200x more style than any backslide on skis I’ve seen.

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/1039557/trim-627B7DB5-1C8E-4811-AC8F-DEAE59A72495-MOV[/video]
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Yeah if he had skis on but kept the same body position it’d be god tier style. I’ve seen a few clips of snowboarders being 45° on edge sliding a rail, have you ever seen a skier do something like that on a straight rail? I guess you could really only get on edge like that on a 1 foot slide -I’ve seen a couple 50/50 box clips of skiers on edge like that.

The shoes look fun but I can’t imagine myself sprinting at an urban spot and not looking like a clown lol

14425243:ReturnToMonkey said:
Lowkey I think this looks cool but also goofy and not even close to as stylish as if he had skis on.
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Posting insta clips is selfish in a way, like “oh look at me and how good I am” and is just to boost your morale

whereas full lengths is showing some artistic factors and shit and creativity
 
14425516:MaimHelp said:
Posting insta clips is selfish in a way, like “oh look at me and how good I am” and is just to boost your morale

whereas full lengths is showing some artistic factors and shit and creativity
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Everybody knows this
 
14425504:Jems said:
highkey fact the first 2 drops were the best
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That’s what I’m saying, those and the earlier era ones were so dope, I’m probably getting downvotes because kids don’t even know what they look like. Shit I barely even remember them myself and there isn’t many pics online.

**This post was edited on Apr 11th 2022 at 10:47:35pm
 
14425103:SchizoSkier said:
copper is the best mountain in North America
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Tell me you've never skied outside of Colorado without telling me you never skied any where outside of Colorado.
 
14425961:3mania said:
Tell me you've never skied outside of Colorado without telling me you never skied any where outside of Colorado.
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This fella hasn't even skied all the mountains in Summit, let alone outside Colorado
 
14427256:Thegenericskier said:
The park scene in NC is better than the other parts of the east coast
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That’s because you’re too far away from all of it and haven’t experienced it
 
Nico Porteous put down one of the best runs ever done in a pipe at the last X Games, but I am not super convinced he really got a grab on his right 16, looks to have been a bit of a tickle. Feels ridiculous to be knit picking something that heavy and technical, but not sure if that would have passed as a right 16 mute in a slvsh game...
 
skiing park on custom on3ps is one of the most clown things you can do and honestly I don't understand why people would drop 1k+ on some park skis unless they're just ass as fuck and won't do much damage to the ski
 
14427859:Jems said:
skiing park on custom on3ps is one of the most clown things you can do and honestly I don't understand why people would drop 1k+ on some park skis unless they're just ass as fuck and won't do much damage to the ski
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ur not good at skiing so you should prolly do that
 
14427859:Jems said:
skiing park on custom on3ps is one of the most clown things you can do and honestly I don't understand why people would drop 1k+ on some park skis unless they're just ass as fuck and won't do much damage to the ski
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Someone's salty
 
14427859:Jems said:
skiing park on custom on3ps is one of the most clown things you can do and honestly I don't understand why people would drop 1k+ on some park skis unless they're just ass as fuck and won't do much damage to the ski
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Is this some sort of joke I'm too handsome and wealthy to understand?
 
14427859:Jems said:
skiing park on custom on3ps is one of the most clown things you can do and honestly I don't understand why people would drop 1k+ on some park skis unless they're just ass as fuck and won't do much damage to the ski
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Did it cus I was too impatient I wanted the mangos before they came out. I have three pairs of park skis to abuse now so I can use other ones that are already clapped for trying new/big tricks or just if I was hiking rails. Probably would rather do big tricks on my Jeffreys or Revolts over my Mangos anyway for the extra length and stiffness.

**This post was edited on Apr 18th 2022 at 12:46:00pm
 
14427895:ReturnToMonkey said:
Did it cus I was too impatient I wanted the mangos before they came out. I have three pairs of park skis to abuse now so I can use other ones that are already clapped for trying new/big tricks or just if I was hiking rails. Probably would rather do big tricks on my Jeffreys or Revolts over my Mangos anyway for the extra length and stiffness.

**This post was edited on Apr 18th 2022 at 12:46:00pm
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mangos are halfway exempt from this slander because they’re custom only and i understand cause the magnus 90 and its derivatives are irreplaceable ski designs
 
14427859:Jems said:
skiing park on custom on3ps is one of the most clown things you can do and honestly I don't understand why people would drop 1k+ on some park skis unless they're just ass as fuck and won't do much damage to the ski
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Broke boy alert ?
 
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