Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition

14037762:TNORTS said:
“Soft”, “playful” and “buttery” skis are the least fun skis on the market.
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I love the deep side cut, cambered, narrow park skis way more than vishnus or on3ps in the park. Not that the others arent fun, they're just not as fun
 
14037768:TheOtherJakeC said:
I love the deep side cut, cambered, narrow park skis way more than vishnus or on3ps in the park. Not that the others arent fun, they're just not as fun
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Can’t relate at all. Literally every camber ski feels the same to me
 
Most if not all "flat 1s" are some variant of an underflip 5. Same thing with "dub 5s".

Also, doubles are sick AF. Bootgrab triples and quads not so much, but I admire the athleticism and balls it takes to pull them off.

Finally, baggy is and was the best look for freestyle skiing. Not necessarily "thug" but just going up a size or two on all outerwear.

**This post was edited on Jun 2nd 2019 at 1:15:59am
 
14037768:TheOtherJakeC said:
I love the deep side cut, cambered, narrow park skis way more than vishnus or on3ps in the park. Not that the others arent fun, they're just not as fun
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I would not put on3p and vishnu in the same category at all. On3p are not soft, and if you get one at a good length they are very hard charging and stable
 
14039840:SKRockies said:
I would not put on3p and vishnu in the same category at all. On3p are not soft, and if you get one at a good length they are very hard charging and stable
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My main skis are Kartel 108s and they're my favorite skis I've owned. I would not call them "not soft" compared to other skis but they do charge alright and are fairly stable. They're a good middle ground, but too wide and flat for my park tastes
 
14039852:TheOtherJakeC said:
My main skis are Kartel 108s and they're my favorite skis I've owned. I would not call them "not soft" compared to other skis but they do charge alright and are fairly stable. They're a good middle ground, but too wide and flat for my park tastes
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Kartels are rated at a 6-7-6, Vishnu's have been reviewed as a 4-5-4, i ride a 186 k98 and at 180lbs 6'2 i would call them stiff. I agree you can't consider them as stuff as a race ski or a directional but you'd be hard pressed to find any early rise twin Tips that feel as stable
 
14039909:SKRockies said:
Kartels are rated at a 6-7-6, Vishnu's have been reviewed as a 4-5-4, i ride a 186 k98 and at 180lbs 6'2 i would call them stiff. I agree you can't consider them as stuff as a race ski or a directional but you'd be hard pressed to find any early rise twin Tips that feel as stable
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On3p's have beautiful "flex engagement" from what I've skied, but are definitely a stiff, responsive, poppy ski.
 
14043306:TheOtherJakeC said:
Definitely overrated and overhyped
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dude right? i cant figure out what the fun is risking serious damage to your skis, destroying your boot liner and getting water stuck in your jacket cotton, on top of that your just wet all day if you fail.
 
14043390:roddy116 said:
dude right? i cant figure out what the fun is risking serious damage to your skis, destroying your boot liner and getting water stuck in your jacket cotton, on top of that your just wet all day if you fail.
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holy bitchassness batman! the thrill is if you'll make it or get dunked. and everything can dry out.

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14043446:Ryanvdonk said:
holy bitchassness batman! the thrill is if you'll make it or get dunked. and everything can dry out.

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For me, it's not the actual skim. It's how big of a deal it is, you have to sign up and usually pay, then wait around for hours until it's your turn, when instead you could be doing regular skiing somewhere else. Pondskims are the same time of year as slushy park laps which are my favorite, so the trade off ruins any fun the pond skim might be
 
14043390:roddy116 said:
dude right? i cant figure out what the fun is risking serious damage to your skis, destroying your boot liner and getting water stuck in your jacket cotton, on top of that your just wet all day if you fail.
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I agree

We all dont have parents who buy us new skis if our old ones get ruined
 
New wave type shit is actually good because it is replacing something that was missing in skiing, the sport was at a stand still with progression, lots of people plateaued and wasn’t really new tricks being done, sure Andri Ragettli did a Quad cork 1800 but who else is doing that??? What a lot of people are going is swerving. It’s fun easy to master and you can do it everywhere. If ur home local park/hill doesn’t have big features to progress on, you swerve with what u have, you can go in ur backyard, get some pallets or a big rock make a job feature and have fun, finding a 45 foot moon booster close to you isn’t always easy, progression can take time. If skiing can’t be creative then it can’t be fun, yes there is technique in skiing but there doesn’t have to be, it is new. It is the way skiing is going and you can’t change that. So for buttered toast and whoever wrote that shitty thread about swerving, get ur self on on3ps or Vishnu wets and have fun, put those atomic’s along with ur poles in the basement and never use them again
 
14049493:EvanGriffin745 said:
New wave type shit is actually good because it is replacing something that was missing in skiing, the sport was at a stand still with progression, lots of people plateaued and wasn’t really new tricks being done, sure Andri Ragettli did a Quad cork 1800 but who else is doing that??? What a lot of people are going is swerving. It’s fun easy to master and you can do it everywhere. If ur home local park/hill doesn’t have big features to progress on, you swerve with what u have, you can go in ur backyard, get some pallets or a big rock make a job feature and have fun, finding a 45 foot moon booster close to you isn’t always easy, progression can take time. If skiing can’t be creative then it can’t be fun, yes there is technique in skiing but there doesn’t have to be, it is new. It is the way skiing is going and you can’t change that. So for buttered toast and whoever wrote that shitty thread about swerving, get ur self on on3ps or Vishnu wets and have fun, put those atomic’s along with ur poles in the basement and never use them again
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But u look dumb tho
 
14049770:GANDALF said:
The Hellbent/EP Pro/New Life style of ski was and is still one of the most fun powder skis ever.
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fact. Taper is way overrated. I dug like crazy to find a used pair of caylors after mine finally bit the dust because I dont really like the way that newer models ride. Camber is lame
 
Vishnu is the "core" brand wet dream of the mid 2000s but is ostracized by the current culture of arguing everything to the point of obscurity for no reason
 
14050044:K-Dot. said:
this is a pretty popular opinion
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It's true though. Kids post themselves landing some hardish trick on a fat tube, and then can barely kfed a smaller barreled rail lol. The big tube is a huge advantage. It rides like a box and has way more forgiveness while letting you cheat jumping properly on swaps and helping you grip/ correct. I like skiing on them, so I'm not hating but I don't think a lot of people realize the difference in level of difficulty.
 
People still getting put on (edits getting reposted/exposure, interviews, photo's in magz/online) and remaining relevant for being a good skier/doing shit in the past even though they are not that good anymore/doing crazy shit compared to everyone else.
 
14050053:M.M said:
People still getting put on (edits getting reposted/exposure, interviews, photo's in magz/online) and remaining relevant for being a good skier/doing shit in the past even though they are not that good anymore/doing crazy shit compared to everyone else.
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Marketablity. Some of the "legends" have big personalities or evoke a lot of emotion out of the audience, even if it's just nostalgia. Because of these, even if there isn't a product being sold such as a magazine, people still love these athletes. For example, THall's instagram is hugely popular, not because Tanner is the very best or has a product to sell, but because Tanner is a big character and a valuable piece of most people's personal histories in skiing
 
14050064:FlorescentBone said:
Marketablity. Some of the "legends" have big personalities or evoke a lot of emotion out of the audience, even if it's just nostalgia. Because of these, even if there isn't a product being sold such as a magazine, people still love these athletes. For example, THall's instagram is hugely popular, not because Tanner is the very best or has a product to sell, but because Tanner is a big character and a valuable piece of most people's personal histories in skiing
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ya i fully get that part of it. im down for it. love seeing the legends still getting after it. its the people who arent in that legend category, not gonna name drop but i can think of a few.
 
14050046:Schoess said:
It's true though. Kids post themselves landing some hardish trick on a fat tube, and then can barely kfed a smaller barreled rail lol. The big tube is a huge advantage. It rides like a box and has way more forgiveness while letting you cheat jumping properly on swaps and helping you grip/ correct. I like skiing on them, so I'm not hating but I don't think a lot of people realize the difference in level of difficulty.
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I think they're even easier than boxes in a way. I can't pretzel boxes for shit. Tubes, I can grip all day
 
14050064:FlorescentBone said:
Marketablity. Some of the "legends" have big personalities or evoke a lot of emotion out of the audience, even if it's just nostalgia. Because of these, even if there isn't a product being sold such as a magazine, people still love these athletes. For example, THall's instagram is hugely popular, not because Tanner is the very best or has a product to sell, but because Tanner is a big character and a valuable piece of most people's personal histories in skiing
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Social media influencing is also huge now with anything but hasn't reached annoying levels in skiing yet. Yeah there are a ton of "brand ambassadors" getting paid to ski all year and say X or Y product/company/brand are cool and its effective on consumers but the day we start having unboxing videos for new skis or whatever will be lame.
 
-Comp rail sections are boring as fuck. Y'all are supposed to be the most technical skiers in the world and you can't even mix flips into the rail sections? Or do giant disasters or big gaps?

-Swerve skiing is steezy and a lot of the time prominent swervers like Mango, Magnus, or Toph can actually do big flip tricks and shit, people say it's easy but swerving is unique more in its style than in the actual tricks the skiers do.

-Magnus has style, but it's not satisfying to watch.
 
14050408:Matt.J said:
its cuz flips in rail sections are hard and probably wont get scored as high as sumn like a 2p6
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Also much higher risk of crashing early in the run. See jesper's runs at the xgames

**This post was edited on Aug 9th 2019 at 8:38:39am
 
I just one one skier in the Xgames to do a style run.

Disaster or LB2 every rail and 0 spin every jump. Just to see what the score would be. I know they work hard af to get to that point so they'd never throw away a chance to actually podium, but that would make someone a legend and tbh I cant even remember who won Xgames like a week after it happens. this would be way more memorable
 
14050046:Schoess said:
It's true though. Kids post themselves landing some hardish trick on a fat tube, and then can barely kfed a smaller barreled rail lol. The big tube is a huge advantage. It rides like a box and has way more forgiveness while letting you cheat jumping properly on swaps and helping you grip/ correct. I like skiing on them, so I'm not hating but I don't think a lot of people realize the difference in level of difficulty.
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this is exactly why i love tubes so much
 
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