Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition

13866209:Andbrer said:
Beginner skiing lessons are a waste of money, your friends can show you how to put a boot on, put your weight onto the front of the skis and snowplough in about 30 minutes, beginner ski lessons sliding around the flat with one ski on is a waste of time and money
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I'm a ski instructor and this is so true, save your money we are worthless unless you want us to show where to find good snow or terrain.
 
rossi fks/look pivots are super overrated. they’re just as good as any high end binding, people only jerk off to them because the heel swivels and they look cool. good luck when the brakes break.
 
13866291:aNIGma said:
Yup totally on the same page as you! I think part of what it is it that his clips look cool to just regular people who arent skiers or ski fanatics so he probably gained a lot of momentum like that. Your average person sees a misty 7 and goes, what trick was that? But see his simple stuff and are like "oh yaaa wow thats cool". Just a theory, idk man.
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My unpopular opinion is I feel like it’s the opposite. Better skiers realize the difficulty of coming up with your own new style for an edit and having your tricks flow with it and there’s is definitely room for that in skiing. It’s a different type of skill than the more tech skier but it’s still important. because having lots of very different skiers with different styles makes skiing way more interesting. Worse skiers overlook it because it’s not as objective so it’s harder to judge. Plus even if the daffy butters are easy they still look sick, some regular butters aren’t super hard and people still have them in their edits. I’m obviously biased in this case though.
 
13866656:freeballer said:
Most of the people on NS and all park skiers have never even listened to Wu-Tang, despite confessing their complete love for the Wu.
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Wu-(who?)-Bang. Oh wait..."Wu-Tang." Yeah, I've heard of them. They're kinda cool, I guess.
 
I like my LINE skis.

And of the few Warren Miller movies I've watched, I thought they were pretty good (maybe it was before he left idk. Either way got me stoked to ski.)
 
13866675:.Fry said:
rossi fks/look pivots are super overrated. they’re just as good as any high end binding, people only jerk off to them because the heel swivels and they look cool. good luck when the brakes break.
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Not really a park skier at all, and I don't post much, but I was just about to post the same thing. The FKS/Pivot just doesn't do it for me. To each their own though.
 
Why did Ben Smith and Ethan Swadburg not have more shots in Habit? Perpetual motion segment with Sami was cool idea, but not movie-worthy.
 
13866760:Westcoastsend said:
Park skiers who can't shred all mountain are posers.
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to ad to this; skiers who brag about how good they are at “normal skiing” are more annoying than kids who can’t carve
 
13866282:Jesse_ said:
I don't like daffy butters or @Tophaloaf simply because the trick is ridiculously easy (learnt it in about 10 mins) and I find the hype surounding it as a godly trick kinda annoying.

Might just be me but I don't get how he has such a big following for spamming easy as shit tricks like daffy butters or jumping over box and people will call it insane or "revolutionary"
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retweet on that one
 
13866642:cool_name said:
I dont think he was, he was specifically mentioning ON3P and how his fell apart. He never mentioned companies that sell skis for cheaper, only that a company makes more money by having their skis break, which is stupid.

The $300 dollar ski in your example isnt making more money because their skis break, they would be making more money because they can deliver a ski that lasts just as long as 600 dollar ski for half the price. If the $300 ski fell apart in 10 days, compared to a 600 dollar one that lasts 75 days, the 300 dollar company would go broke and wouldn't make more money because their skis broke.
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bruh. lol hes not saying they make money BECAUSE their skis break
 
13866784:cool_name said:
"Skis that break make more money anyways"

It sounds like he is saying just that
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Hes saying the companies that make the most money, like on3 and armada, sell skis that aren't as durable as ppl think they are. it doesn't really matter tho whateva
 
13866792:McMaster_17 said:
Hes saying the companies that make the most money, like on3 and armada, sell skis that aren't as durable as ppl think they are. it doesn't really matter tho whateva
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That's some serious reading between the lines.
 
13866761:a_burger said:
to ad to this; skiers who brag about how good they are at “normal skiing” are more annoying than kids who can’t carve
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Skiers that brag in general are annoying af
 
Ok I know this is gonna get some mega hate, but I prefer the lift bar down.

Maybe that's because it's more common to do in the East vs West. It doesn't hinder me and I like the foot rests. I've found it really only bothers snowboarders because their boards get all tangled up in the foot rests. There's really no reason to not want the bar down unless you're morbidly obese and it's hitting your stomach, or you're just trying to be cool. But whatever. Not judging. Just my unpopular opinion.
 
Backswap to switch only looks good when you do the full swap, rather than all these dudes doing it shittily to where they’re close to 5050 when they finish the swap.

Fisheye film is absolutely horrible. Any edit that has it I cannot even watch. It belongs in snowboarding and skating. You can barely see them when they ride out, which is an important part of the trick.

Shitty quality cameras look absolutely awful, I also cannot watch edits where they’re primarily used.

If I don’t respond to you on the Hill, it’s because I have music playing. Don’t keep nudging me if I don’t answer.
 
13866792:McMaster_17 said:
Hes saying the companies that make the most money, like on3 and armada, sell skis that aren't as durable as ppl think they are. it doesn't really matter tho whateva
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What I'm saying is that park skiers are die hards/addicts and will buy more skis when their current pair breaks. I usually need to get 1-2 new pairs each season which makes more money for ski companies than if my skis lasted 2 seasons. Also just because someone breaks their skis doesn't mean they'll switch to another company. I once talked to a kid who was whipped for Armada Skis but he was bummed about breaking a pair. I can tell you, he's going to buy Armada Skis again.
 
13866799:IsitWinterYet17 said:
Ok I know this is gonna get some mega hate, but I prefer the lift bar down.

Maybe that's because it's more common to do in the East vs West. It doesn't hinder me and I like the foot rests. I've found it really only bothers snowboarders because their boards get all tangled up in the foot rests. There's really no reason to not want the bar down unless you're morbidly obese and it's hitting your stomach, or you're just trying to be cool. But whatever. Not judging. Just my unpopular opinion.
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Find this so bizzare as someone who skis Europe. from what I've seen in videos the chairs in US don't go very high. I've been on plenty of chairs in Europe that if you fell out you would just die, so maybe that's why we always bar down here.
 
13866832:Andbrer said:
Find this so bizzare as someone who skis Europe. from what I've seen in videos the chairs in US don't go very high. I've been on plenty of chairs in Europe that if you fell out you would just die, so maybe that's why we always bar down here.
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There's plenty of places in the US where you would die falling out. All it takes is a few stories high and you could be screwed. People don't die often though from falling since it's rare to fall
 
13866799:IsitWinterYet17 said:
Ok I know this is gonna get some mega hate, but I prefer the lift bar down.

Maybe that's because it's more common to do in the East vs West. It doesn't hinder me and I like the foot rests. I've found it really only bothers snowboarders because their boards get all tangled up in the foot rests. There's really no reason to not want the bar down unless you're morbidly obese and it's hitting your stomach, or you're just trying to be cool. But whatever. Not judging. Just my unpopular opinion.
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Pussy. Only reason bar should ever come down is late in the day after those really, really hard days of skiing. Ex: early season pow day.
 
13866677:cory.iyoob said:
My unpopular opinion is I feel like it’s the opposite. Better skiers realize the difficulty of coming up with your own new style for an edit and having your tricks flow with it and there’s is definitely room for that in skiing. It’s a different type of skill than the more tech skier but it’s still important. because having lots of very different skiers with different styles makes skiing way more interesting. Worse skiers overlook it because it’s not as objective so it’s harder to judge. Plus even if the daffy butters are easy they still look sick, some regular butters aren’t super hard and people still have them in their edits. I’m obviously biased in this case though.
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Wow I kinda feel like an ass now. That's a really fair point man. Honestly to build on that, I guess since there's so many skiers there's really no shortage of ppl who can throw big tricks either but new creative shit is harder to come up with. To say skiers like Tophaloaf and yourself don't come up with some impressively creative stuff would be a blatant lie. Thanks for sharing
 
13866833:IsitWinterYet17 said:
There's plenty of places in the US where you would die falling out. All it takes is a few stories high and you could be screwed. People don't die often though from falling since it's rare to fall
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so why this thing about not putting the bar down? what if the chair has to stop and swings back with momentum and you slip out?

Seems absolutely ridiculous that you would purposefully make it less safe.
 
13866677:cory.iyoob said:
My unpopular opinion is I feel like it’s the opposite. Better skiers realize the difficulty of coming up with your own new style for an edit and having your tricks flow with it and there’s is definitely room for that in skiing. It’s a different type of skill than the more tech skier but it’s still important. because having lots of very different skiers with different styles makes skiing way more interesting. Worse skiers overlook it because it’s not as objective so it’s harder to judge. Plus even if the daffy butters are easy they still look sick, some regular butters aren’t super hard and people still have them in their edits. I’m obviously biased in this case though.
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I somewhat agree but this doesn't change my annoyance with the hype around it all, creativity in skiing is def important and I understand where you're coming from. But I just don't get his "new" style if you can call it that.

Hear me out, the first time I saw anyone ever "daffy butter" I thought it looked sick just as I thought jumping over a box was cool the first time I ever saw anyone do it, but after seeing that exact trick by the same skier multiple times over the course of multiple edits with minor variation in his "daffy butter" I just found that it wasn't creative, original nor did I see the appeal anymore. To me i find that the struggle with creativity in skiing is obviously being creative in the first place but also continuing to do so.

I watched some of Topher's older edits and I realize that he is in fact a skilled skier, I just don't get why he's milking the easy tricks he does is all.
 
Tall T productions is bogus as fuck

Your thug 2x pants and 4x tall tee are appropriative and your mother is disappointed in all of your life choices.
 
13866863:Andbrer said:
so why this thing about not putting the bar down? what if the chair has to stop and swings back with momentum and you slip out?

Seems absolutely ridiculous that you would purposefully make it less safe.
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I don't know why it's so popular. Yes that's possible to fall and die, but I looked up the stats before I posted. Fatalities are quite rare for people falling from lifts because people don't fall often. As long as you aren't sitting forward with your head over your knees, you likely won't fall out. I still like the extra security of a bar though. Something to grab if I do slip forward.
 
13866199:DeebieSkeebies said:
being social is fine, but some days you just want to soul shred and be left alone.

do people get annoyed when people are on the chair with both earbuds in and don't really wanna talk? nothing wrong with being social, but some of us just want to ski with ourselves and be left alone. I get irked when people try to get your attention on the chair when you're trying to zone out. I had a dude grab my arm once and get all pissy cuz I didn't talk to him.
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This 100%
 
13866885:mystery3 said:
I have kids, bar comes down. I will politely remind you to watch your head though.
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I feel like its the opposite over here, because the bar is always coming down - if you're not prepared and get nutted by it then you're the arsehole
 
I've skied park for years and will continue to from time to time but skiers just look like rollerbladers on rails.
 
Stop bitching about how expensive beer is on the mountain. Buy it on the way to the mountain like a real functioning alcoholic.
 
13866952:sdrvper said:
Are we saying its edge control to stomp it or to shuffle it?

It takes much more edge control to stomp a trick, especially switch, on the money, in a carve like TWall then it does to butter it around. That's just fact; pizza skiing, side sliding & hockey stops come before carving on most people's learning curve. The better the skier, the better their edge control, the cleaner their landings.
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This 100%, plus I just find that nice clean cut landings are way nicer to look at then a sloppy shuffle out haha.
 
13866866:Jesse_ said:
I somewhat agree but this doesn't change my annoyance with the hype around it all, creativity in skiing is def important and I understand where you're coming from. But I just don't get his "new" style if you can call it that.

Hear me out, the first time I saw anyone ever "daffy butter" I thought it looked sick just as I thought jumping over a box was cool the first time I ever saw anyone do it, but after seeing that exact trick by the same skier multiple times over the course of multiple edits with minor variation in his "daffy butter" I just found that it wasn't creative, original nor did I see the appeal anymore. To me i find that the struggle with creativity in skiing is obviously being creative in the first place but also continuing to do so.

I watched some of Topher's older edits and I realize that he is in fact a skilled skier, I just don't get why he's milking the easy tricks he does is all.
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Yeah I feel you on that, you have some points. Let’s agree to disagree.
 
Good Company is pretty lame/boring. I can't comprehend their music choices sometimes. You'd have the equivalent of GC in snowboarding and no one would care at all.
 
13867008:fredferland said:
Good Company is pretty lame/boring.
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okay well i'm triggered!

it's okay though i have some hate of my own

snowplowing anywhere for any reason for even a microsecond is terrible and you should be ashamed. same thing with people who look like goofs coming to a stop, get your shit together dog

level 1 is basically a snowboard movie-copying, high school video project that came into skiing at the right time and was able to develop along with the sport. i find them shallow and pedantic and josh berman has never had an original thought in his life

LINEs and J skis are toys marketed like toys to the age range that likes toys

99% of 180s off cliffs are boring. you can always tell when theyre going to do a 180 vs any other trick because they cut their speed in half before hitting it. booorrrriinnnggg
 
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