armchair_skier
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14302456:zacgcb said:
Mediocre rail setup > mediocre jump line
Unpopular opinion thread skier's edition
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Mediocre rail setup > mediocre jump line
hi_vis360
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14302453:SofaKingSick said:
for sure, I've been a fan since his ski movie III segment. Back then he dropped tons of content, made his own videos which were dope af, had his own invitationals etc. He really did a lot more to give back to the ski community then than he does now. Just wish he would cut it out with the overly mysterious vibe and do some interviews and idk drop more than 3 clips a year?
BradFiAusNzCoCa
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I’m getting a little sus about some of his videos lately. If you watch closely, some of the movements look really awkward almost like CGI
14302587:pinkcamo1000 said:
ReturnToMonkey
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14302591:BradFiAusNzCoCa said:
CONSPIRACY: Candide died and the creature we all think is him is really an advanced ai cyborg that is testing the cutting edge of robot technology via extreme sports
FruitBootPro
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14302445:EdensDemise said:
vishnu and jet were never considered edgy, they're hipster and aloof.
skis back in the thug era were actually "edgy"
armchair_skier
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14302663:FruitBootPro said:
AHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAAHAHA
deathvalley69
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14302663:FruitBootPro said:
Yeah I don’t think they are either but I see a lot of people on here saying otherwise
MoneyMakerMike
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14302689:EdensDemise said:
Pretty much just woflowz says that im pretty sure
GayWolf420
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14302663:FruitBootPro said:
The thug era is just as cringe too tbh but our sport grew.. Skiings still got a heavy "Country Club Kids" vibe in it and it always has had it.
**This post was edited on Jul 8th 2021 at 1:42:52pm
deathvalley69
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Alright I got some more
Strictly videos are boring (the skiing is good but I just can't sit through the videos)
The mushroom Reckoners are some of the ugliest graphics I've ever seen, and so are all of the Bent Chetlers ever
If Henrik was a mid-tier pro he would be seen as extremely cringe
Objectively bad style can be really cool in some situations
Strictly videos are boring (the skiing is good but I just can't sit through the videos)
The mushroom Reckoners are some of the ugliest graphics I've ever seen, and so are all of the Bent Chetlers ever
If Henrik was a mid-tier pro he would be seen as extremely cringe
Objectively bad style can be really cool in some situations
FruitBootPro
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14302706:DeebieSkeebies said:
thug era was cool and cringe at the same time, it was cool that we were being hip and edgy but it was cringy that we were white boys doing a rich white boy sport and trying to be "hood"
deathvalley69
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14302749:pinkcamo1000 said:
I don't have any opinion on the quality of the actual skis since I've never tried them. I don't think ON3P is wack, they're just not as cool as a lot of people think. For every 1 good skier riding them there's 5 TGR dads and 5 prepubescent hypebeasts. They're just another brand to me. Plus half their team, which was a lot of my favorite skiers, left. I don't know if ON3P dropped them or if they just decided to leave themselves, but either way it shows that ON3P isn't what it used to be. And their graphic have gotten a lot worse recently.
I know that sounds gatekeepy and doesn't really make sense but those are my thoughts on ON3P
hi_vis360
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14302754:EdensDemise said:
ok word I agree with pretty much all of that. The skis are def excellent quality, I've been seeing people froth over them on here for years and I finally got a pair last season and they lived up to the hype for sure. I wouldn't read too much into the team thing, they are a small company so they can't pay their riders very much so sometimes guys just gotta move on, saying that they aren't what they used to be is over interpreting I think, but at the same time you gotta support the companies that support the skiers you like.
and yeah as far as wack people riding them goes - that will happen to every company that is even remotely successful. I vividly remember pulling up to sunday river 2 seasons ago in the fall and a bunch of teenagers hopped out of daddy's range rover, track pants on and new vishnus in hand. Those same kids are probably the ones claiming that posers "ruined" vishnu now, guess they will have to buy jetskis this season lmao
SofaKingSick
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14302587:pinkcamo1000 said:
I said I'M FINE
no I hear you, but I don't blame any skiers for milking it, cashing out, taking it easy, whatever, especially him. it can be such a brutal career without a guaranteed payout, and he's given the sport so much. Plus he's put us on normal people's radar a little with his recent (ish) YouTube videos etc
not arguing, just chatting. I do wish he'd put out a full segment of the kind of big mtn charging he was doing in Few Words (the current-at-the-time footage), that shit just crushed
deathvalley69
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14302813:iggyskier said:
Lol not trying to roast you or anything I just prefer the older graphics to the 2021s. Mostly just the Magnus and Jeffrey didn't look like ON3Ps to me, I think the Woodsman and Wrenegade were really cool. Mixed feelings on the 2022s I've seen so far. Not that you should give a shit what some random kid on Newschoolers thinks obviously you're doing fine
GrandThings
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Its only a matter of time before we all end up as TGR Dads....
BradFiAusNzCoCa
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TGR gets hated on but I’ve perused some of the forums and honestly don’t think it’s that bad. However, I have never interacted with anyone on there.
They also have some good fucking deals and daddy loves a deal ?
They also have some good fucking deals and daddy loves a deal ?
14302904:GrandThings said:
ReturnToMonkey
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14302941:3mania said:
Damn that's actually a really good analogy
CatdickBojangles
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14302479:BrightFrog said:
Lmao I’m assuming this a a troll attempt or maybe I’m wrong and it’s just a terrible take.
BrightFrog
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14302970:CatdickBojangles said:
I didn’t come to troll. OP wanted an unpopular opinion so I laid out the facts as I know them.
Thegenericskier
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Ski academies should be for kids wanting to try and make a future in skiing not just to go to a boarding school and learn how to ski
deathvalley69
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Skinny pants look good everybody just bandwagon hates on them
Pivots are not worth the price
Color changing was the worst Vishnu graphic this year
Pivots are not worth the price
Color changing was the worst Vishnu graphic this year
deathvalley69
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14305666:casual said:
lmao I just got called out hard, might change my icon again because it does makes me seem like even more of a hating douche than I already am
My two skis right now are Factions and Fischers so I don't really care about being "underground" I'm just not a huge fan of ON3P
deathvalley69
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14304823:Thegenericskier said:
The most unpopular opinion of all time
John18_6
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14305674:Shittyskier said:
Proper edge detuning with a file and gummy stone goes a long way. You gotta spend an hour if you want to double you ski’s lifetime. Make them round underfoot while still keeping as much of the edge material on as you can. Finish with a hard gummy stone rub.
I didn’t have the chance to detune them properly before riding. I did a little bit, but not enough. It was my fault.
Hopefully someday a ski company will be able to find a more friction resistant steel to use for edge material. Until then, rails will always win in the long run.
K-Dot.
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I honestly hope this isn’t an unpopular opinion but Child Labor is the worst fucking name for a ski crew. The skiers in it are all dope too, just the name is so tone deaf. It reminds me of the ski crew Young Money Retarded from back in the day, just the worst branding imaginable
CatdickBojangles
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14305755:john18061806 said:
Mangus come super detuned. Did you get yours without a detune?
MoneyMakerMike
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14305756:K-Dot. said:
Child labor is a dope name. Plus if you own some of the merch it’s hilarious getting weird looks from people
270on420out
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14305799:pinkcamo1000 said:
Nah fuck religion Vishnu is a sick name
FruitBootPro
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14302935:asparagus said:
Try using a snowboard in tight trees or bumps (aka 90% of advanced terrain)
FruitBootPro
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one i've been thinking for a while:
doing swervy tip tappy unorthodox shit does not automatically make you fucking creative. If you go out in the park or streets with the mindset of doing those kinds of tricks, it is really not hard to come up with a bunch of new wave type stuff you could do at any given spot.
doing swervy tip tappy unorthodox shit does not automatically make you fucking creative. If you go out in the park or streets with the mindset of doing those kinds of tricks, it is really not hard to come up with a bunch of new wave type stuff you could do at any given spot.
John18_6
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14305793:CatdickBojangles said:
Those were the 2017 Magnuses I had, that was before they had the factory detune. It would still be a got idea to round off the bevel between the side of the edge and the bottom, finishing with a gummy stone. The bevel just takes out most of the work you need to do.
It's also very important to routinely gummy stone your edges through the season. But I can never remember to do that haha
FruitBootPro
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14305756:K-Dot. said:
LMAO "YOUNG MONEY RETARDED"
i don't think even rap groups or labels would use the word "retarded" in their name, ever
can't believe that used to exist that's so fucking funny
deathvalley69
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Ok I know it was only like 2 weeks ago but I've changed my mind about ON3P everything I said about them was so fucking dumb
CatdickBojangles
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14308842:mrk127 said:
Durasurf or die.
deathvalley69
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14308842:mrk127 said:
Performance probably but I really like the look of a base that’s colored but doesn’t have too much of a graphic like K2s
VISHNU
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this isn’t the first time I’ve heard this and I would like to address it.
There is a fine line between appreciation and appropriation, and I think the difference is that one is as respectful and understanding as possible of the culture the material is being taken from, and one is not.
For example, if the brand was called Vishnu, used imagery of the Hindu deity in question and the logo was a cow (sacred symbol) that would be flagrantly disrespectful of the culture being borrowed from.
I never have, and won’t, represent the brand that way. I appreciate what the god Vishnu represents in the Hindu religion (from the research I have done) and still think it represents the brand’s vision seven years later. There is something inherently powerful about religious words and imagery, regardless of which religion I choose to take from. And I take from multiple, regularly.
Believe it or not, I have spoken to a fair amount of Hindu people about their thoughts on the matter in my time as an Uber driver in Salt Lake and all of them have expressed similar opinions: as long as the imagery/material used doesn’t promote something forbidden in the culture, none of the people I talked to (anecdotal data) thought the name of the brand was inappropriate or disrespectful. A couple of them mentioned a beer brand called Brahma (general term for god) that they aren’t down with because alcohol is strictly forbidden in most (all?) Hindu cultures.
I realize my last paragraph is the near equivalent to someone who is accused of being racist saying “I have black friends” but in this case I think the point stands. I have talked to real life Hindu people about appropriation concerns and thus far none have seemed bothered by it. To the contrary, most of them thought it was cool that a random white bro in Utah knew about their culture.
When you add the fact that Vishnu is a common first name in India, along the same lines as Jesús or Maria José in Latin countries, I think I can dodge cancellation this time.
I’ll save my thoughts on Child Labor for another post if needed but suffice to say, people have no problem wearing Nikes made by modern indentured slaves in Vietnam or using their iPhone manufactured at Foxconn where people jump out of the windows mid shift. I think the name Child Labor reminds people of the world we really live in and that’s a good thing overall, despite the admitted edginess.
There is a fine line between appreciation and appropriation, and I think the difference is that one is as respectful and understanding as possible of the culture the material is being taken from, and one is not.
For example, if the brand was called Vishnu, used imagery of the Hindu deity in question and the logo was a cow (sacred symbol) that would be flagrantly disrespectful of the culture being borrowed from.
I never have, and won’t, represent the brand that way. I appreciate what the god Vishnu represents in the Hindu religion (from the research I have done) and still think it represents the brand’s vision seven years later. There is something inherently powerful about religious words and imagery, regardless of which religion I choose to take from. And I take from multiple, regularly.
Believe it or not, I have spoken to a fair amount of Hindu people about their thoughts on the matter in my time as an Uber driver in Salt Lake and all of them have expressed similar opinions: as long as the imagery/material used doesn’t promote something forbidden in the culture, none of the people I talked to (anecdotal data) thought the name of the brand was inappropriate or disrespectful. A couple of them mentioned a beer brand called Brahma (general term for god) that they aren’t down with because alcohol is strictly forbidden in most (all?) Hindu cultures.
I realize my last paragraph is the near equivalent to someone who is accused of being racist saying “I have black friends” but in this case I think the point stands. I have talked to real life Hindu people about appropriation concerns and thus far none have seemed bothered by it. To the contrary, most of them thought it was cool that a random white bro in Utah knew about their culture.
When you add the fact that Vishnu is a common first name in India, along the same lines as Jesús or Maria José in Latin countries, I think I can dodge cancellation this time.
I’ll save my thoughts on Child Labor for another post if needed but suffice to say, people have no problem wearing Nikes made by modern indentured slaves in Vietnam or using their iPhone manufactured at Foxconn where people jump out of the windows mid shift. I think the name Child Labor reminds people of the world we really live in and that’s a good thing overall, despite the admitted edginess.
14305799:pinkcamo1000 said: