Trump Indicted

[VTshredder69]

My complaint will always be with people, on either side, who will reference organizations and the data they gather, but quickly shift their opinion on whether or not that organization is credible in relation to their bias.

Example 1.

"Look at the CDC reporting on vaccine issues, clearly this vaccine is dangerous as proved in the CDC reports" followed by a statement like "Well, I don't trust the CDCs numbers on infections, those are just made up to push a narrative"

Example 2.

"Cops stop and frisk minorities more according to the justice department. That's really fucked up" followed by "Well the justice department must be lying about the low numbers of fatal cop interactions, probably some sort of cover-up or defense of the police state. all cops just want to kill. ACAB"

I could rattle off like 10 more of these for pretty much any group on the political spectrum

Data should always be taken with a grain of salt, but I feel like more and more people will write off any data that they disagree with, and also never do a deeper analysis of the data that confirms what they think. It is especially frustrating when some people say that an organization is the arbiter of truth when it comes to stuff that agrees with their worldview but are also somehow lying scumbags when the data goes the other way.

I think a lot of people like to say they are critical of the data but they really only are when it is in opposition to their worldview.

I had more hard evidence in mind. Like the Bay of Pigs and operating midnight climax.

From there you get the Kennedy assassination, 9/11, and lots of others. Not actually proven, but highly likely.

From that it's hard to believe anything anymore. Data is so easily manipulated to fit the narrative these days and we've now seen this going on in medicine, crime stats and all of it.

 

[r00kie]

So, do you guys drink your orange juice with or without the pulp?

 

[EggMann]

So, do you guys drink your orange juice with or without the pulp?

I just drink pulp, cut out the middle man. My motto is efficiency efficiency efficiency

 

[Lonely]

So, do you guys drink your orange juice with or without the pulp?

If you want orange juice with pulp theres actually a thing for that. It's called a fucking orange. Pulp and juice both included.

Pulp juice drinkers and crunchy peanut butter enjoyers should have no place in society

 

[WoFIowz]

Um can you not read the numbers on the spreadsheet? It’s not a matter of “what I think” it’s an objective fact that they are…

unless you think that white people are allowed to get away with assault or something. Because if that is what you believe then you better have some damn good evidence to back that up. I guarantee you that I can’t just walk outside right now an punch someone in the face and get away with it.

You probably could. Fuck, you got a 50/50 shot of getting away with murder in a city.

 

[WoFIowz]

So, do you guys drink your orange juice with or without the pulp?

If you want orange juice with pulp theres actually a thing for that. It's called a fucking orange. Pulp and juice both included.

Pulp juice drinkers and crunchy peanut butter enjoyers should have no place in society

Hey now. That's not nice.

 

[ASSholebomber22]

If you want orange juice with pulp theres actually a thing for that. It's called a fucking orange. Pulp and juice both included.

Pulp juice drinkers and crunchy peanut butter enjoyers should have no place in society

Facts. That shit's vile.

 

[Granby_killdozer]

You probably could. Fuck, you got a 50/50 shot of getting away with murder in a city.

Only if you’re black and the DA is a liberal BLM activist like in Chicago or LA

 

[WoFIowz]

Only if you’re black and the DA is a liberal BLM activist like in Chicago or LA

You think cops actually solve homicides lol? Only about 50% get solved

 

[Granby_killdozer]

You think cops actually solve homicides lol? Only about 50% get solved

Do you think all the people who get away with murder are white? You might be on to something.

 

[AndrewGravesSV]

Na Ive had friends who were shot and killed. Friends get robbed and held hostage. I had shit stolen out of my locker when I was kid in school. I once had a dude pick me up by my throat and hold a burning cigarette 2 inches away from my eye. Wanna guess what the common denominator was in all of those incidents? I base my world view on way more than spreadsheets lol

Imma guess that the common denominator was being poor but it seems like you've got a different conclusion

 

[EggMann]

Imma guess that the common denominator was being poor but it seems like you've got a different conclusion

Exactly this. Crime is a symptom of poverty, not a cause.

but americans would rather live in a surveillance state than address systemic problems.

 

[Granby_killdozer]

Imma guess that the common denominator was being poor but it seems like you've got a different conclusion

Lol I went to school with plenty of poor white kids. None of them ever killed anyone as far as I know.

 

[Granby_killdozer]

Exactly this. Crime is a symptom of poverty, not a cause.

but americans would rather live in a surveillance state than address systemic problems.

Crime is a symptom of fatherless households. Black guys don’t like to stick around and raise their kids unfortunately. That results in single mothers who are uneducated having to work shitty jobs and live off welfare. It’s all very sad until one of their shithead kids tries to rob you lol

 

[SteezyYeeter]

They are imprisoned more because they are targeted more by bitch ass police, who overpolice black and brown neighborhoods and are 3x more likely to be convicted of the same crime as a white person.

LOL YOU STUPID DUMBASS

 

[SteezyYeeter]

you really took that middle school thing personally lmao

Yeah, i dont trust the fbi because they are the ones systemically murdering people. So lets talk about the people that actually look into law enforcement practices and history. Unless you just want to believe the FBI because the government would never do anything wrong.

I want to live in the world you live in. Seems so fun and ignorant

the fbi literally sends agents to 'extremist' catholic churches... how are they not on your side you fucking retard eggfuck penis cock

 

[EggMann]

the fbi literally sends agents to 'extremist' catholic churches... how are they not on your side you fucking retard eggfuck penis cock

Lol eggfuck

 

[SteezyYeeter]

Lol eggfuck

its good righ

 

[ASSholebomber22]

Imma guess that the common denominator was being poor but it seems like you've got a different conclusion

Source?

 

[AndrewGravesSV]

Crime is a symptom of fatherless households. Black guys don’t like to stick around and raise their kids unfortunately. That results in single mothers who are uneducated having to work shitty jobs and live off welfare. It’s all very sad until one of their shithead kids tries to rob you lol

I'm not saying you're wrong but you're also using this to justify your racism. Everyone has their own biases based on their own experiences/knowledge that can help them stay safe. Its a problem when you extrapolate those biases to form a broad picture of a group. These are systemic issues with a ton of factors at play and at the end of the day we're all humans

Source?

lmao you want me to provide a source for my guess?

 

[Granby_killdozer]

I'm not saying you're wrong but you're also using this to justify your racism. Everyone has their own biases based on their own experiences/knowledge that can help them stay safe. Its a problem when you extrapolate those biases to form a broad picture of a group. These are systemic issues with a ton of factors at play and at the end of the day we're all humans

“You’re using this to justify your racism” says the white guy who lives in the mountain west and knows 2 black people. Shut the fuck up man?.

 

[VTshredder69]

“You’re using this to justify your racism” says the white guy who lives in the mountain west and knows 2 black people. Shut the fuck up man?.

lmfao

 

[AndrewGravesSV]

“You’re using this to justify your racism” says the white guy who lives in the mountain west and knows 2 black people. Shut the fuck up man?.

"I'm not racist, you don't know black people" is quite the defense lol

You're only a few steps away from the argument of black people being savages who belong working in the fields

 

[ASSholebomber22]

"I'm not racist, you don't know black people" is quite the defense lol

You're only a few steps away from the argument of black people being savages who belong working in the fields

That's weird projection my dude

 

[ASSholebomber22]

lmao you want me to provide a source for my guess?

I mean if you're gonna claim economic factors as the primary vector I'd like to see data supporting that, should be easy to show poverty vs homicide rates for all races being equal right?

 

[Lonely]

I'd be curious to hear crawdaddies opinion on the 14th and 15th amendments and their resulting outcomes

 

[Jems]

i hope trump or biden suddenly die shit would be funny ??

 

[.MASSHOLE.]

i hope trump or biden suddenly die shit would be funny ??

I think both parties would hate Kamala being POTUS.

 

[Granby_killdozer]

"I'm not racist, you don't know black people" is quite the defense lol

You're only a few steps away from the argument of black people being savages who belong working in the fields

“Only a few steps” lol no… I’m simply pointing out major issues backed by data that idiots like you choose to ignore in order to virtue signal. It’s easy to talk a big game when you’re not directly affected by things like calls for defunding the police and race rioters burning down businesses. Move to the south and hang around downtown late at night when the hood rats are out. Then come talk to me. We all know you’d be a scared little bitch who would cross the street away from the scary black men. But at least you’re not “racist” lmao.

 

[Granby_killdozer]

I'd be curious to hear crawdaddies opinion on the 14th and 15th amendments and their resulting outcomes

me: *acknowledges well known facts about certain demographics in defense of policing practices*

Idiots on Newschoolers: This man wants to reinstate slavery!!!!

I see you fools are out of logical arguments at this point so I guess my work is done.

 

[Lonely]

me: *acknowledges well known facts about certain demographics in defense of policing practices*

Idiots on Newschoolers: This man wants to reinstate slavery!!!!

I see you fools are out of logical arguments at this point so I guess my work is done.

Neither the 14th nor the 15th amendment abolished slavery brother.

That would be the 13th.

Sort of a self report to jump right to the whole reinstating slavery thing there though.

 

[Newsheepers]

i hope trump or biden suddenly die shit would be funny ??

I could step into the picture

 

[VTshredder69]

I think both parties would hate Kamala being POTUS.

AMEEENNNNN.

 

[VTshredder69]

i hope trump or biden suddenly die shit would be funny ??

I mean biden is practically dead. Lets be honest.

 

[Newsheepers]

I mean biden is practically dead. Lets be honest.

lmao

 

[Granby_killdozer]

Neither the 14th nor the 15th amendment abolished slavery brother.

That would be the 13th.

Sort of a self report to jump right to the whole reinstating slavery thing there though.

Lol you brought those amendments up in response so someone else bringing up slavery. Ya got me though ya little trickster!

 

[Lonely]

Lol you brought those amendments up in response so someone else bringing up slavery. Ya got me though ya little trickster!

Weird. Went and looked at the message. I didn't quote or respond to anyone. You don't have to make stuff up man.

It's alright if you dont know the difference between the amendments. There are like, a whole lot of them.

The amendments I brought up broadly are about citizenship, and voting. If I wanted to make a joke about you and the 13th, I would have said the 13th.

 

[Granby_killdozer]

Weird. Went and looked at the message. I didn't quote or respond to anyone. You don't have to make stuff up man.

It's alright if you dont know the difference between the amendments. There are like, a whole lot of them.

The amendments I brought up broadly are about citizenship, and voting. If I wanted to make a joke about you and the 13th, I would have said the 13th.

No one cares bro. Go hough some more of your own farts

 

[eheath]

No one cares bro. Go hough some more of your own farts

why do you even try dude? just shut the fuck up already, you're the biggest pussy of us all because you can't admit when you're wrong, you keep saying the same bullshit and deflecting from the topic at hand. you do it every. fucking. time. you argue, its fucking pathetic dude.

get a fucking life man

 

[Granby_killdozer]

why do you even try dude? just shut the fuck up already, you're the biggest pussy of us all because you can't admit when you're wrong, you keep saying the same bullshit and deflecting from the topic at hand. you do it every. fucking. time. you argue, its fucking pathetic dude.

get a fucking life man

me telling him "ya got me" was me admitting that I was wrong... you daft land whale. go cry and eat a cheeseburger about it. stupid fucking prick.

 

[eheath]

me telling him "ya got me" was me admitting that I was wrong... you daft land whale. go cry and eat a cheeseburger about it. stupid fucking prick.

classic dumbass response, shallow insult with no conviction. go post your idiotic takes somewhere else, nobody wants you on NS.

 

[Granby_killdozer]

classic dumbass response, shallow insult with no conviction. go post your idiotic takes somewhere else, nobody wants you on NS.

Classic dumbass eheeth not addressing what I said and crying about me like the little baby back bitch he is. How are you gonna complain about me not admitting when I’m wrong right below a comment where I admit that I’m wrong??? How fuckin dumb are you?? Fuckin childish bro. I’m done with you.

 

[eheath]

Classic dumbass eheeth not addressing what I said and crying about me like the little baby back bitch he is. How are you gonna complain about me not admitting when I’m wrong right below a comment where I admit that I’m wrong??? How fuckin dumb are you?? Fuckin childish bro. I’m done with you.

 

[AndrewGravesSV]

I mean if you're gonna claim economic factors as the primary vector I'd like to see data supporting that, should be easy to show poverty vs homicide rates for all races being equal right?

This source has loads of data in it:https://okjusticereform.org/2021/12/how-poverty-drives-violent-crime/#:~:text=There%20appears%20to%20be%20a,cost%20ratio%20of%20committing%20crimes.

I honestly thought the link between the two would be a lot more concrete. My point isn't to argue about crime statistics but to underline that there are systemic and historical issues with the US that cause them to be skewed. There's context to these issues and its lazy to do a direct one to one of black people commit crime more so black people are violent.

Also it looks like Trump might be indicted again in the summer for pressuring Georgia officials about the election. Also interested in whether people think Trump being muzzled is good or bad for him

 

[ASSholebomber22]

This source has loads of data in it:https://okjusticereform.org/2021/12/how-poverty-drives-violent-crime/#:~:text=There%20appears%20to%20be%20a,cost%20ratio%20of%20committing%20crimes.

I honestly thought the link between the two would be a lot more concrete. My point isn't to argue about crime statistics but to underline that there are systemic and historical issues with the US that cause them to be skewed. There's context to these issues and its lazy to do a direct one to one of black people commit crime more so black people are violent.

Also it looks like Trump might be indicted again in the summer for pressuring Georgia officials about the election. Also interested in whether people think Trump being muzzled is good or bad for him

I didn't ask for a persuasive essay from a biased source for a correlation between poverty and crime. I asked for statistics comparing violent crime by race of people who are already impoverished.

Your first thought may be to reply that black people are disproportionately impoverished. Obviously they are, I'm not arguing that. But that is not what I'm asking. Re-read what I wrote above again and let me know what you find.

 

[SteezyYeeter]

Neither the 14th nor the 15th amendment abolished slavery brother.

andrews said that he wanted black people working in the fields. read the thread dumbass

 

[Granby_killdozer]

andrews said that he wanted black people working in the fields. read the thread dumbass

Oh he read the thread. Anyone with a brain can see that I mistakenly thought he was replying to Andrew SV. These fools will grasp at any chance to be “right” when it comes to me regardless of how silly and inconsequential them being “right” is in the broader argument. This is simply a coping strategy for the cognitive dissonance they feel when I disprove their silly liberal conspiracies about things like police racism so I don’t take it personally.

 

[WoFIowz]

“You’re using this to justify your racism” says the white guy who lives in the mountain west and knows 2 black people. Shut the fuck up man?.

You saying this is no different than someone saying "I understand racism because I have black friends". Me even making this comment is questionable. The point is this argument is stupid.

I mean if you're gonna claim economic factors as the primary vector I'd like to see data supporting that, should be easy to show poverty vs homicide rates for all races being equal right?

I didn't ask for a persuasive essay from a biased source for a correlation between poverty and crime. I asked for statistics comparing violent crime by race of people who are already impoverished.

Your first thought may be to reply that black people are disproportionately impoverished. Obviously they are, I'm not arguing that. But that is not what I'm asking. Re-read what I wrote above again and let me know what you find.

There's a billion articles on this. Google is hard I know right. But if you're so worried about peer reviewed articles being biased then go do a statistical analysis yourself. The data is publicly available- just needs analyzed.

 

[ASSholebomber22]

You saying this is no different than someone saying "I understand racism because I have black friends". Me even making this comment is questionable. The point is this argument is stupid.

There's a billion articles on this. Google is hard I know right. But if you're so worried about peer reviewed articles being biased then go do a statistical analysis yourself. The data is publicly available- just needs analyzed.

You didn't read the article he posted or what I requested.

 

[WoFIowz]

You didn't read the article he posted or what I requested.

Did I click on the 30 different hyperlinks within the article and evaluate them? No. I don't care about this topic or wish to spend an entire day researching it to prove a point on a forum with 50-100 active members.