Too Coo 4 Schoo?

...is typically not my style. But considering relevance and the magnitude of the decision, I thought I would run this by you guys. I'm a junior in college, and I'm thinking about dropping out. If you don't want to involve yourself in this thread, then don't involve yourself in this thread.

Reasons for dropping out:

1. I have a 2.4 GPA.

2. I live in Missouri where there are no mountains. This summer I worked in Colorado, and I have always been in love with that state.

3. I usually just drink and smoke on the weekends.

4. I am wasting my and my parents money.

5. I'm an intelligent guy who learns more on his own via books/firsthand experience.

6. I am an English and Journalism major, and I already know how to write (my professors tell me this).

7.(Non-technical/specific) degrees in America are a joke. It's just a status.

8. I am highly interested in jobs that involve outdoor recreation (I worked at a gear shop and guided climbing and biking tours).

Reasons for not dropping out:

1. I probably have four semesters left.

2. Regretting not getting a degree later.

3. Job opportunities.

4. Growing up too fast.

5. Disappointing my family.

6. I'm in a fraternity.

My two older brothers and my dad do not have degrees. They have secure jobs, happy families, and a good, healthy lifestyle. Only my oldest brother regrets not finishing his degree (dropped out just before his junior year at Kansas University), but he still sleeps at night. My dad is the most intellectual person I know, and he sarcastically made his way through high school. He is a writer, and a good one at that. In all honesty, I believe that school is interfering with my education. I'll admit that a lot of it is just me being too lazy to do the work. However, I am a productive person, and school seems to bring out the laziness in me more than anything. And I've told myself to sack up and just do it so many times, but the motivation is there for no more than a week.

This summer in Colorado, I experienced true independence for the first time. I was living by myself, supporting myself, making my own food, managing my own time, going on crazy climbs without asking what mom or dad thought, and associating myself with the type of people I want to be like. It felt damn good. I was happy and I was productive. I was even more intellectually involved--read and wrote more. Now my ass is being kicked by this system again, and I am out of control.

I am seeking some good honest advice, preferably from those who have lived and learned.

 
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goodluck on your choice, i dont have any feedback to help you out really, other then, if you don't have the motivation inside yourself, why waste any more time or money?

YOLO as they say, so stop fucking around and live your life how you enjoy it most.

you can always go back to school

find a job outside, work for a bit, then decide what you really want for yourself
 
So, you're lazy, unmotivated, and doing shitty in school, yet you still have yourself convinced that you're intelligent and intellectual? How much weed DO you smoke? Hahaha. Stop blaming college as the reason you're fucking up and take some damn responsibility.
 
Dropping out will just result in later regret whereas learning to work harder and keep good grades will not only result in more pay, but a better work ethic and resume.
 
Sometimes it takes people a few years to find out what they want to do. Don't consider it dropping out, consider it taking a break. Go work and have fun in Colorado and then transfer your credits to a degree you actually care about. No point in half-assing a useless college degree now when you can put your full focus into something you care about in the future. You just need to figure out what that is and grow out of the whole smoking and drinking all the time thing.
 
Finish up college then go do what ever the Fuck you want after while having your degree to fall back on. You wont regret it later while as if you do drop out and things don't end up working out you'll be kicking your self in the ass for not staying in school
 
An intelligent, intellectual individual would probably realize that sitting around on the weekends smoking and drinking on the border of failing out of school is pretty fucking stupid. Get your shit together, get a degree, then move to Colorado if you really love it that much.
 
Some people just aren't meant for college. but I don't know much about journalism, I hear it's a pretty competitive field so it will probably help to have a degree, or at least a really extensive portfolio. if you do spend time out of school id consider getting a lot of experience working as an intern for a newspaper or something like that
 
My friend asked me on the bus if I would rather have an office job and to very well (big house, nice car, tons of $$), or do what I love everyday (skiing) and barely get by. I said that as long as I was almost certain not to starve and to almost always have a roof to sleep under, I would choose to do what I love. Personally I think that if you don't enjoy being in school and think you will be fine if you drop out, the do it.
 
Grades don't always reflect one true intelligence and intellect. Also, being lazy and unmotivated doesn't show lack of intelligence, it merely shows lack of interest in a particular thing.
 
But an intelligent person would realize that the obvious choice is get your shit together and finish school
 
Which would be finish up school and move to Colorado and get a good job instead of instant gratification of moving to Colorado and working at McDonalds
 
He said all he does is drink booze and smoke pot, and one of his main reasons for staying in school is because he's in a frat. Does that really sound like the epitome of intelligence to you?
 
This is where I stopped reading. You are probably 20/21 and have been in school for maybe 16-17 years? Is 1 more year REALLY going to hurt you that bad? Cause if you don't do that last year you are pretty much wasting even MORE time and money.. Though you are taking a pointless degree that's your choice. But a degree is ultimately just a piece of paper in today's world. A piece of paper that says you were able to accomplish something and finish school.

I am a recruiter and if I asked someone why didnt you finish school, they said, "I wanted to move back to CO because I really love the state" I wouldn't consider then for any job.

Bottom line, get the fucking piece of paper. You will not regret it, you're parents are willing to pay for college so go. You know how many people pay their own way and end up so far in debt they are paying student loans for the next 10 years? You have it so easy and you're just gonna quit? Get the fucking degree and quit bitching.
 
Oh, you also shouldn't use NS as a justification to quit college. Just balls out the next 4 semesters. Shit will probably suck if you hate it, but chances are it will be worth it in the end.
 
We're clearly not dealing with someone who can dropout of school, walk into a physics lab and rewrite the laws of the universe. We're talking about someone who may or may not be an above average writer who smokes and drinks a lot. If he can drop out of school and write the next best seller than by all means he should go ahead but I find that to be unlikely
 
You ever work fast food? Have you lived independently off of minimum wage? There's not much happy involved
 
But brrrooooo, he can live the awesome life of a ski bum! He can work a shitty job to barely cover rent in his shitty one room apartment and the ramen he eats every day...but at least he gets to sskkkiiii powdaahhhh...until he's 32 and his knees blow out, then he realizes he wasted a large portion of his life chasing a hobby that he would easily be able to afford to do with his family if he had just finished his degree and gotten a decent job.
 
Just because YOU aren't happy working a job that doesn't require a degree, other people might love that job. As OP said, he has experience guiding (one of the most enjoyable jobs you can have) and working in a shop. Although those aren't high paying jobs, OP probably doesn't care much for material things and cares for what makes HIM happy.
 
But to completely throw away his prior 3 years of schooling for a job that won't pay nearly as much as he is probably going to get with a degree? Thats not an intelligent decision. Its taking the easy way out when things get hard instead of learning to study and work hard. Sounds like now, OP isnt a very hard worker unless it's something he's interested in. Even then, he still doesn't care enough to get a decent GPA anyways.

OP get your shit together and don't dump the tens of thousands of dollars that you and your parents have paid down the drain just for the instant gratification of moving to CO and skiing which won't progress you any farther in life than masturbating will all day...

Get your degree and stop drinking and smoking pot all day and fucking study...
 
im not saying i agree with dropping out, but i agree there are reasons for it, and it is possible to completely enjoy life without a high paying job (which does not infer working at mcdonalds).
 
finish school. move to colorado. do what you love. then fallback on your degree when your older and can't support that free living lifestyle anymore.
 
Ya I'm just saying that its worth it to put off a year of happiness to finish a degree instead of just wasting all of the money that has been spent on school because it got too hard in the end and he couldn't finish.

And OP, stop drinking and smoking pot on weekends. As gangster as it may seem, I guarantee that if you went out with friends or did something besides getting drunk and high, you would find much more joy in life...
 
Im in the same boat. However i just started college this year. Honestly i dont like school. But its somthing i have to do if i want ot make it in life. I know ten years from know if i drop out ill regret it. You cant be a ski bum for the rest of your life. Maybe just take a gap year? Im thinking of doing that next year. Maybe just for winter quarter or somthing
 
I'm implying that hes not doing any of those things. He said that every weekend he smokes pot and gets drunk. Pretty negative outlook if you ask me. If it was, "I get drunk and smoke pot while camping, fishing, hiking, running, biking, swimming etc etc." then that would be different. Its not hard to find fun things to do and then do them especially in college. Its all about time management between studying and fun.
 
hey man stephen hawking dropped out in junior year too and look how smart he became. believe in yourself
 
you forgot to mention how everyone knows exactly what they want to do with their lives when they're 20 years old
 
personally i believe it is very important for people to pursue what they love and what makes them happy. with that being said, if anyone thinks they're better off doing a job they love but cannot properly support themselves with is a moron. no matter your argument, in the end you will ALWAYS need money. i'm not saying to work a job you hate just to make 6 figures, but you definitely need to consider what your best options are in terms of getting a secure and decent paying job
 
Ski patrollers in the mountains make under 20k usually and they are probobly doing a job that makes them much happier than your average 9 to 5 worker who may make a 100k so fuck money do what you want to do. That dosen't mean smoke pot every day till your broke and on the streets but if you hate college and have some talent as a writer try to write something and get published in a magazine or well known blog or whatever. In that typ of industry two main things contribute to success 1. talent and 2. who you know. A degree may help but you can definitely succeed without one.
 
True, but if he believes that he will be able support himself (which it seems like he does) then he should do what he loves.
 
heres is my 2 cents for ya man... I have always wondered that if school was truly worth it... the best physically prepared time in your life and your sitting at a desk learning. now im not saying this a bad thing, but maybe there are better ways to spend your time for some people. I personally have a desire to succeed in life and that is reflected in my actions, so dropping out never came as a real option in my conscious. The one thing i fear most however is being stuck behind a desk with no snow in sight... Do what you need to do in order to get where you think you want to be. Just dont end up behind a desk at a dead end job.
 
i would agree if you change "believes" to "knows". if he thinks he can make a go at it but really can't, he'll be pretty pooched
 
So then he can have wasted money on school AND be working a job he doesn't truly like?

I should be a junior this year. Started off in Civil engineering at a school that I didn't like, and in an LDR that didn't work out. I had shitty grades and blamed it on the LDR/not being happy with where I was.

I came home to community college to fix my fuckups (retook a few classes, continued with the ones I had prereqs for) and decided I wanted to go to mechanical engineering. I was much happier living at home because I had a pretty flexible work schedule and was able to ski quite a bit. My grades really didn't improve a whole lot. I stared to blame my grades falling on working too much and wanting to ski more than wanting to go to school.

By the end of the year I was about 50/50 for going to school again or moving out West and just skiing/working for a bit, attempting to "get it out of my system" so I could go back to focusing on my school and having a better idea of what I wanted to do with my life.

Over the summer while I was trying to make up my mind, I was presented with an awesome job offer I couldn't pass up. It's within an industry that pays well, is really hands on, and doesn't necessarily need a degree. Most guys I work with are fresh out of the military.

At this point, I'd just consider this as taking time off. Figuring out what I want to do with my life. If I really like the job (so far, meh), I'll be able to continue with it for a while. Quickly move up in the pay scale. If not, I'll have something solid on my resume for whatever job I go to next.

If you actually think writing is what you want to do with your life (seems like an over-saturated degree to me, but what do I know), then I would suggest keep on doing it. When you're in a market with such high competition, that piece of paper carries much more weight than it should in the hiring process. Another thing to think about is how easily you could pick up where you left off. With engineering, it's pretty hard to take a few years off and jump right back in since it's all cumulative. Again, I don't know a whole lot about the curriculum, but it seems like writing is something you could pretty easily jump back in right where you left off. Especially since you say that you want to independently further your education.

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this, but do what you feel is right. School will always be there. I think It's pretty important to have a degree to fall back on, especially since a liberal arts degree is pretty versatile. Employers just care that you have the drive to finish up something. If you do decide to take some time off, have a plan. I'm saying to myself that I have to have a steady job that I enjoy or a degree by the time I'm 30. Networking is key.
 
I'd normally say finish, but a 2.4 in English isn't going to get you very far anyways. Do whatever you think will make you happy, and do it without regret.
 
take some time off and come back to school. i did that for one semester when i moved to utah to chill and fuck women, and when i came back i was more mature and more motivated than i ever had been before. just giving your noggin a rest from over a decade of classes is a good idea, same way that you shouldnt hit the gym 7 days a week. catch some fresh air, work out the other parts of you brain, and then when youre feeling refreshed jump back in and finish your useless major so you can spend the rest of your life bragging about your degree. plus its a couple months of being supported by your parents, and you should squeeze as much time under their umbrella as you possibly can.
 
Just finish. You only have a year and a half left, that's nothing, then you can go do whatever you want. Be a responsable person and finish.
 
i say finish school

you could look at the option of transferring to a school in a place you want to live. a friend of mine transferred her junior year in college and by doing so it reset her gpa. in one semester she went from a 2.something average to a 4.0 by switching schools and trying harder
 
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