
14356354:OldStoke said:... luckily I'll be dead in a few years, give or take 10, so I won't be witness to climate change hell...best pick up water skiing. chillens
14356405:ifries said:try living east coast rn
14356336:HypeBeast said:This winter is gonna be massive for the PNW. Quote me in 3 months.
14356430:vibe.crudo said:Don't lose hope man climate change is incredibly reversible, I mean we saw that when covid shut down production, once all these massive corps allegedly go "carbon neutral" in 2030 we might actually see more normal weather patterns. This is the thick of it, Progress is around the corner though, can't be nihilistic.
Sucks theres no snow tho
14356471:OldStoke said:you are fightin the good fight, crudo.....i hope you are right....maybe ill hang around for 11 years
14356430:vibe.crudo said:Don't lose hope man climate change is incredibly reversible, I mean we saw that when covid shut down production, once all these massive corps allegedly go "carbon neutral" in 2030 we might actually see more normal weather patterns. This is the thick of it, Progress is around the corner though, can't be nihilistic.
Sucks theres no snow tho
14356487:broto said:Yea, as much as I'd like this to be true, it's not based in reality at all. Reaching carbon neutrality doesn't mean the Earth will start to cool, it means the climate would start to stabilize at a new, much warmer equilibrium. Even if we stopped all emissions of heat trapping gases today the earth would continue to warm for decades because of the lag associated with enormous climate systems. Reversal of climate change would require us to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere back down to pre-industrial levels which is not happening anytime soon.
14356467:OldStoke said:Edude (what a lame ass handle, by the way)...i wear the title "yaoldfuck" proudly as it means I've survived being around toxic chilluns like you...i have eyes and a temperature gauge its just that in ten years...its gonna be sooooo bad you're gonna wish you slept in ice cream...jesus...edude,thats the BEST you could think of?
14356495:vibe.crudo said:Forests do this naturally which is why a lot of companies are planting billions of trees, but also there is some large scale advancements involving building materials that actually filter greenhouse gasses (methane, C02, C0) out of the air. Couple that with some recent developments in C02 Scrubbers (On a massive scale), smart landfills which use a technology that consists of gas pumps that convert biogas (methane) into energy (which also filters the biogas out of the air emitted from landfills) can be used in other industries like livestock. It may be "wishful thinking", but it's not actually impossible. A lot of those papers stating that climate change is irreversible were funded by gas companies and other harmful industries as a last-resort tactic to instill a nihilistic perspective that would keep people buying their products because "it's impossible to reverse climate change the earth is already fucked, might as well give up and keep driving my car". Revival of the steam engine is on the come up (Which is 80% efficient at converting combustion into torque as opposed to the roughly 25% efficiency of gasoline engines. Wind and solar springing up everywhere I look, the only mentality I can possibly have is to be optimistic. Earth is my home I refuse to stop participating and advocating for the preservation of it, and a "we're doomed" attitude is not only incorrect but also just shitty and makes people depressed lol
14356479:vibe.crudo said:I mean I have done a few research projects in environmental engineering, the 2020 data showed huge improvements in climate health, the antarctic hole in the ozone layer closed, emissions were so low that the air was the cleanest it had been in decades. Oceans are being cleaned, forests are being planted, sure Sunoco is still sucking oil out of the ground but we are making progress nonetheless. Hang around for a bit, we might actually be able to fix this fucked up world we have built
14356428:Skiierman69 said:im in minnesota and we have our park opened at trollhaugen i feel so lucky
14356513:broto said:I'm not saying it's not worth fighting to cut emissions and sequester carbon. But you're kidding yourself if you think any of this is feasible in the next 30 years or so. I really wish that it could be. I'm aware of geoengineering projects like dumping iron filings in the ocean, the carbon capture plants being researched, etc. The carbon capture plant that just opened in Iceland (the largest in the world by a long shot) will save us 4000 tons of CO2 per year out of ~30 billion tons of annual emissions... Despite all the advancents in renewable energy, EVs, carbon capture, bioengineering, etc, the Mauna loa curve climbs higher and higher every year.
Sure it's not technically impossible but things are going to get much much worse for a long time before they get any better. And that's just me being pragmatic. As much as it's not helpful to completely resign to an apocalyptic climate future, it's also not helpful to be unrealistic about the capabilities we have to reverse climate change now and in the next several decades.
14356532:vibe.crudo said:Yeah dude well 10 years ago there were probably five photovoltaic power stations in the world. Do you think an "its pointless give up" attitude got us the hundreds of gigawatts of solar energy we use today? That same mentality of "well we gotta build more lets get to work" can be implemented with carbon scrubbers and other sustainable infrastructure projects. Yeah maybe there's one now, but next year there will be probably be two, the next year there could be even more. You don't have to be completely deluded and believe everything is fine, but it's not like believing there is hope is criminally insane....
14356540:broto said:Haha I never said it's pointless and to give up. I said the opposite actually. For what it's worth, I really do hope I'm wrong on this one. But to think that we might see more normal climate patterns anytime soon after 2030 is just plain unrealistic
14356547:Logi said:Was gonna take a meteorology and weather class next semester but now I don’t think I need to cuz I just learned everything on this thread
14356405:ifries said:try living east coast rn
14356405:ifries said:try living east coast rn
14356476:VT_scratch said:if these atmospheric rivers meet freezing temps.... it will be fucked
14356582:OldStoke said:E, you wanna smoke the peace pipe, I'm down...just don't put "fucking" in front of old...
chillun=children
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14356405:ifries said:try living east coast rn
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