oooh good thread, this oughta get pple worked up. i go to both all the time and i like the loaf, for pple that say the loaf sucked the one time they went there this is rediculous, one weekend of crappy conditions isnt enough to convince me that a mtn sucks. the loaf is def hit or miss, carabassett valley is a wind tunnel, and due to the higher elevation the loaf is always colder. however, if you like a real challenge, some steep-ass terrain, and one of the most laid-back coolest vibes of any mtn on the east, the loaf is ur best bet. if you like getting cut off by joey's from jersey, well, then the river is the place to be.