Stop using Adblock!

i don't think anybody who uses adblock is sitting around complaining about ads... we don't even see them.
 
probably the same reason you wouldnt want to be harassed at every stop light by bums trying to squeegee your windshield.

people trying to con you into spending money when you aren't interested every two fucking seconds just pisses me off.
 
Did you really just compare banner ads with bums harassing you? But dramatic...I still don't understand why it bothers people so fucking much
 
not to mention that NS is no longer someone's personal project, run out of a basement.

I bet a lot of people don't even realize that though.
 
Newschoolers.com is a website owned by a business which needs money to operate. Did you seriously just ask that??
 
squeegee bums and ads serve the same purpose.

they keep at you until they get your money. ads just do it by planting a seed in your head that makes you subconsciously remember their product. next time you go to buy an energy drink and see 10 different types, all you can think of is that big green fucking M that you see a billion times per day.

it's a way of conning you into purchasing something from them, much like a squeegee bum. if they bug you enough, they're going to get your buck.

and it's just not something i support. i understand its purpose and that it's effective, but i'm personally not interested in engaging if i have the power to avoid it.

and then there's the accidental click that opens up a new page and fucks up everything you were just typing...

having an ad on the home page, a specific ad section, or maybe a brief ad that opens with major videos or a "sponsored by [product]" message here or there, but do we really need flashy blinky animations and images of god knows what surrounding the webpage at all times, everywhere we navigate to? porn websites are bad enough for that, i don't need it on NS too..
 
I some people are more annoyed by ads but your whole speeches means shit to me, nothing on ns ads ever sway my mind or future purchases.
 
Do I pay for ad space? No.

I'm not saying ads don't work, they just don't effect me at all.
 
so you may as well have adblock if you are impervious to their effect. either way, the end result is you not buying the shit they advertise.

i'm the same way, i'm not buying shit off ads either. but i also don't like to see them blinking in my face all day everywhere i go. and more so, the principle. i don't like companies even attempting to sway me in a petty attempt to bring business to themselves.

so back to the squeegee bum analogy, maybe you're happy to drive by them every day and just not give them their dollar. i wouldn't either, but i also choose to drive an alternate route and avoid them altogether. not seeing them at all is easier than putting up with and having to ignore them. so i guess my alternate route is just adblock.
 
you asked why they would want to not see ads, some how you turned that into me comparing ns to comcast. And adds may not bother you but I don't seem to be able to ignore adds so easily so maybe you should take others opinions into account.
 
Having ad block causes ns to earn less revenue, that's why I don't use it.

I suppose ads don't bother me as much and I don't understand why people think they're entitled to this perfect ad free experience for absolutely no expense to them. Oh well
 
Why do you think ns should be free?

Do you understand how much it costs to actually run a website like ns?
 
bottom line of this should be that NS shouldn't look at the 80k as lost revenue, but as revenue that never existed in the first place.

if you own a shop you don't complain about the people who visit and don't buy anything. you don't say 'those people are lost money, I don't want them visiting the store'.

It's just what you need to expect with running a business. you will constantly be in contact with people who cost you nothing, yet gain you nothing directly. those who just brows.

especially if you offer a free product. if you run a bar and a group of people come in you fully expect that probably 1 person in that group is just going to have a water and not spend any money but enjoy the atmosphere all the same. it's just expected. you don't look at it as lost profit. you look at it positively that maybe he'll like the place and tell other friends. maybe he'll come back and buy a drink later.

at the end of the day though, NS is still better off with the 16% of members with adblock then not having that 16% at all. let's not forget they bring in revenue indirectly too. through donations and through linking the site and sharing the site and showing it to other people allowing it to grow.
 
Do you sign up and pay for porn? do you have any idea what you are doing to the porn industry by not paying, do you understand how much it cost to film a porno? Do you have any idea how annoying ads about grapefruit juice making your dick bigger are?
 
I see the point you're trying to make, the difference is a shit ton of people pay for porn while also a ton dont. you could make the same agrument about downloading music, or movies, or streaming tv show for free, but its not quite the same. no one pays for NS or ski videos (other than movies) but NS isn't a huge corp. yes, they are owned by a bigger company but ns still has to provide its own revenue...
 
ok well maybe ns should put more products in the store. maybe ns should get a youtube. maybe ns should grow the fuck up, stop asking for money, get the fuck off the computer, and get a fucking job.

i can give examples of websites that have done this, having started with less than we have now, if you need me to.
 
Get a youtube? and i think theyre working on that but everyone that works for NS right now is pretty busy.

I dont understand the second part of this but ok
 
and yet they're losing money, a substantial amount, because i have adblock turned on? i don't frequent websites that ask me to turn adblock off because they need the money. they find other ways to make money. i don't see this thread on the other forums i visit. this thread is fucking stupid. you don't make a free website and then tell people they are being dicks by not paying for it (with their personal information).
 
I've got newschoolers greenlighted on adblock, but I still never see any ads. It's a shame because NS has some of the least obtrusive ads of any website. I definitely don't mind seeing the ads.

It must be one of my other add-ons blocking them. I'll experiment with disabling them all one-by-one to see what's blocking the ads.
 
After whitelisting newschoolers.com on AdBlock, Hoverzoom, and Ghostery, I finally got ads to display.

I can't figure out for the life of me why Hoverzoom would be blocking ads, but alas it was.
 
You sound a bit paranoid. Anyone can access your basic information and very legally. If you don't want the internet taking your basic information you probably shouldnt use it.
 
It was an analogy, and yes the whole point of the Internet in the first place was to share information for free. How fucking old are you? Do you know anything?
 
You think adblock stops people from accessing your information?

Do you know what an IP address is? I know you do. It contains everything and unless you're on some epic super encrypted proxy any website you visit can access your information for free and legally.
 
One day you'll see, its like if someone made a list of everything you did, every book your read, every movie you watched, every food you ate, every product you bought. It wouldn't be hard having all that to put together a list of stuff to make you look bad. Say you checked out a couple of books on Hitler, watched a saw movie or human centipede, bought a lighter and light bulbs at the store in the same visit, own a gun, and recently bought some ammo. All ready you can be made to look like some fucked up crack head who's about to go shoot some Jewish school. Point is it doesn't take much to be put together in a way to ruin your reputation. Not only that but jobs one day could use it to filter out people based off of statistics and one mistake could ruin your employment chances.
 
I'd actually lean towards those crying about it as being the fucking pathetic ones.

TONS of people on this site- plenty to make "enough" money. What is it up to now anyways- like $200k/month in ad revenues or something like that? In any case, if someone doesn't want to see the ads, who the fuck cares? Also who the fuck doesn't think $200k/month is "not enough" and warrants berating those who don't want to see the stupid fucking FD ads and those that start with "_______ hate this guy! Learn his secret to _________". I mean really. Chillax yourself.

I don't even use AdBlocker, but this attitude makes me want to put it on just to be a fucking cock about it since people seem to think I/we owe them something for the privilege of stopping by. That shit is stupid. I understand Bishop's desire to tell people that AdBlocker costs them revenue if they didn't know that, but your attitude that "If you use it you're a fucking piece of shit and should be banned" is fucking flat out retarded.

 
Just saying if everyone used adblock, NS would probably have to charge a membership since it is a business and businesses need to make money. Occasionally I'll turn ad block on for a week if there are ads I don't feel like dealing with, but that happens rarely. I can put up with 2 little rectangles while I'm surfing NS, to help the site I frequent at no direct cost to myself.

Sure if you are paranoid of people getting your information, keep it on. But is it that hard to ignore the ads?

And to answer your questions, I am obviously 12 and don't know anything.
 
I find it funny that there's such an in depth financial discussion on a website that is catering to a population where the more successful you are, the more likely you are to live in a van.
 
amazing. someone that is completely immune to the complex art of marketing....or he is just too ignorant to realize that he is constantly being manipulated and therefore does not get frustrated by the act.

EHV just has his panties in a knot because he's on salary. Do you get commission for every person you get off adblock? You are an employee of NS. Don't bitch.
 
Quite honestly maybe they should consider what ads they have.

When you have ad's like the one's about lawyers to sue ski resorts and other shit you can't really blame people. Maybe they should approve the ads ahead of time.

I don't use ad blocker but honestly don't see how you can bitch at people that do. Do I really care that much about some graphic art orgy in rome ad I got last night?
 
Get some motherfucking ski related ads then.

How the fuck can you blame people for wanting the skip the mostly bullshit ads. I was under the impression that the ad section was going to be for ski companies and not random whatever ads. I guess I was wrong.

A lot of the ads are fucking terrible.
 
I used to do that with myspace. They changed the ad system a few times and you had to change the code to make it work but it was still very successful.
 
I didn't read the thread but I can't believe that people are getting upset for people using ad block, I love NS but there is no way I'm going to look at stupid ads when I don't have to. Using ad block is nothing like piracy.
 
im happy to remove ad block, but only for NS, and having been fucking try to for the last hour but apparently adding newschoolers to the exceptions list does fuck all, so i have no idea now... fuck i hate computers so much.
 
I use Adblock because NS has annoying banner ads. if you had less obtrusive google ads or something maybe I wouldn't use it.
 
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