we hiked up showdown again yesterday. we started skinning at about 815 and the snow was already incredibly soft, it was unskiable by about 1130 but they still have a solid 3-4 foot base across most of the mountain and i guess they are supposed to get pounded memorial weekend. glory hole had slid earlier in the week, it was a real small slide like an 8 inch crown and about 50 feet wide. the deposition zone was about 150 yards below the crown and looked barely big enough to bury someone and if they were buried they could be located probably in less than 2 minutes with a beacon