Spinning both ways

SirFryanator

SirFryanator

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Just a question...why is spinning both ways considered so hard/technical? I thought it would be standard in the competitive levels, like shooting with your left foot in soccer if you're right footed, or something.
 
have you ever tried it? its like learning to ski all over again in some cases. andreas is a master at it
 
I don't think it's really much harder, just weird to get used to. I can do all 4 180s and I can do both forward 360s, but my right spins are super fast and my left spins are slower. I can't spin anything more than a 3 though, I kinda suck. Once you learn to spin both ways though, Its kinda easy.
 
I landed my first right 3s today. i messed up a lot, before i realized i wasn't able to spin as fast as i can when spinning left. all i needed to land it was a bigger jump. But spinning the unnatural way is really weird the first time, that's for sure!
 
in my mind, spinning unnatural is mostly mental. there is NO difference what so ever, you're just not used to unnatural spins so you figure right away that they are harder. not really, just takes time to learn. -learning spins all over again.
 
i tried my first right 3 the other day off a decent sized kicker....1 broken collarbone later and some shoulder issues...shit
 
ya its wierd to think it but our sport is almost completely muscle memory, there are some pro skiers that are ripped but many of them have just skied hard for a long time and have built up the muscle memory.
 
If one wants to be decent in a comp, one has to be able to spin right and left, there's no way around it unless you can do left kangaroo and right kangaroo you could be set. That could be a new theme with Jon, left and right double flips.
 
To me, any 180 isn't really a spin, because 1 spin is a 360. I spin right more naturally than left, so if I was going to try a right 7, thats the one I would try first. The biggest tricks I can do are 360s right now though, and I learn tricks pretty slow, so I'm not going to try a 7 tomorrow. I learned left 360s right after I landed right 360s, so I didn't have much muscle memory built up yet, so maybe thats why it was so easy, even though I suck at doing tricks. (btw I'm not trying to say you're wrong or anythign liek that, I'm just trying to clarify what Iposted before.)
 
practicing right side spins is probably the most unfun thing you can do on skis. You eat shit all day just to learn a 360

I suggest trying them on water ramps, its sooooooo much easier on your body to practice doing right side off big jumps when you have water underneath
 
i dont think its that hard, i just cant spin as fast unatty. but my unatty spins are a lot more stylish then my natural spins.
 
i can do unnatural 3's off little things like bumps and cutups next to snowmaking poles, nothing big
 
people who can spin both ways are much more complete, if you can do the same trick both ways it is much more impressive than just always throwing the same way
 
i think the key is to come off the jump level, when you spin naturally you all relaxed and sometimes leaning back, so just make sure you are level when doing unnatty, also try and grab in it, alot easier
 
i can spin both ways pretty easily. when i go forward i usually spin to my left but i can spin right side also. and when i go switch i spin to the right. i actually spin way faster when i spin rightside, but left side is my "natural" side aka thats how i always spun. and its weird i'm more comfortable hitting a jump switch. i don't like landing switch though.
 
spinning both ways should be a standard in top level competition, but it is hard. Most pros just train their asses off so it does become something of second nature. However, that does not mean the shit is not hard. It is especially difficult to link up stylie, technical spins both directions in something like superpipe or slopestyle with consistency. Making some comparison to soccer, is... well, pretty fucking stupid.
 
forget it dude, it is all in your head, but it's the physical connections that you have to build up, not that thats what this kid is meaning to say... obviously it's in your head, where else would it be? just because it's in your head doesn't make it hard to do
 
How is math all in my head? I haven't been taught how to solve partial differential equations yet so how would it be in my head? In my head meaning I know how to do that?
 
The phrase 'it's all in your head' is used to signify that something has to do with thinking as apposed to muscular strength or agility.

He said that spinning right-side is a mind game, because if you can do a trick left-side, then your body clearly has the necessary muscle strength and agility to perform the trick, and it's just a matter of getting your brain to tell the correct muscles to fire. Therefore, the expression that 'unnatural spins are all in your head' was saying that the only thing that's stopping someone from doing all their tricks both ways are mental blocks and not physical limitations.

Math is all in your head in the same way: it has nothing to do with muscles. I used that example because you seemed to be saying that because something is 'all in your head', it is trivial, which is not true.

 
Sincerely NS member who has changed his name more time then anyone else:

Would it be hard for you to stop making dumb threads. I mean every thread I read from you just makes me thing your are even more retarded then I did before I read the thread.

Honestly it doesn't exactly take a brain surgeon to figure out that spinning unnatural is harder then spinning naturally. And if you actually had tried it (which I highly doubt) you would know this.

Or are these threads aimed more at trying to show the rest of NS how cool and sick you are.

so with all love...

shut your cunt hole ya dumb bitch
 
ive never done a right 5 and only a couple sketchy right 3s, but somehow a right cork 7 came first... cork that shit.... it will feel better
 
Im weird, i can spin both left/right all of my spins. I can do both left/right corks. but i can only ski switch spins to the left. i just cant look over my right shoulder. its really weird.
 
I'm making a statement about the professional level of competition. Shouldn't it be standard that pros can spin both ways?

If it is really just a mental block to fire the right muscles (which I believe it is) then I can make that comparison to shooting a soccer ball with your left foot.
 
I don't think you get how hard it is to throw unnatural tricks at all, especially at the pro level where things have to look good and be tech. Throwing a pretty right 9 is not as easy as just turning off a "mental block."

On a side note, its easier for me to spin unnatural going switch, which is weird imo...
 
When the suns on, and the jumps are kicking right, I think mental blocks tend to disapate.

Im working all 4 5's right now.. 3/4 there!
 
I think it is a little bit more than a mental block, but it isn't impossible by any means. You have to train your opposite foot to pivot and stuff, which just takes time and practice, but what do I know, I suck at rightside even just 180's
 
only cool thing about rightside is leading grabs...

it IS sort of a "in your head" thing but its also a work ethic thing. how willing are you to embarrass yourself all day with shitty 5s and 7s to get em right?
 
Good heavens man. Take some deep breaths and count backwards slowly from 10. It's gonna be okay.
 
Should pros be held to a standard where they can throw tricks both ways? -- Yes

Does this mean that they shouldn't be commended for this ability to go both ways? -- No

your analogy to a soccer player is pretty poor-- there are fewer muscles involved in kicking a ball than throwing your entire body around, this would make it easer to learn to kick with both feet, than it would be to learn to throw a cork 7 both ways.

furthermore

it's not like a right footed soccer player isn't recognized for making a shot with his left foot- you'd still say he scored a goal, WITH HIS LEFT FOOT!! and be excited and give him extra kudos or whatever for not being dependent on his dominant side.

simply because it is a mental challenge does not make it any more difficult than a physical challenge and if this is what you're trying to get across then you are wrong.

 
haha, if your at your home mountain people should know what your capable of.. just when the biggest crowd is there throw somthing huge then be like kay work time.
 
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