SouthPark in HOT water over episode 200
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Slinger1x1
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it wouldn't be any better
Now im not religious, i dont believe in god, i think religion is stupid.
But think of everything that religion has brought. Good and evil, right and wrong, incentives to do good things and punishment for those things that are considered bad.
the basic laws of society stemmed from religion. though shall not murder/steal what ever, it all came from religion.
if we had no guide lines that give us the moral values and laws that we follow today, what would the world be like?
would murder be viewed as we see it today? maybe it would be a good thing? who knows?
why should anyone do anything good for another person? why give charity? why stop and wait for someone to cross the street?
because of religion and the idea of heaven and hell (or what ever other afterlife things religion believe in), people do good things.
its a weird thought. i hope i sparked some thinking
Now im not religious, i dont believe in god, i think religion is stupid.
But think of everything that religion has brought. Good and evil, right and wrong, incentives to do good things and punishment for those things that are considered bad.
the basic laws of society stemmed from religion. though shall not murder/steal what ever, it all came from religion.
if we had no guide lines that give us the moral values and laws that we follow today, what would the world be like?
would murder be viewed as we see it today? maybe it would be a good thing? who knows?
why should anyone do anything good for another person? why give charity? why stop and wait for someone to cross the street?
because of religion and the idea of heaven and hell (or what ever other afterlife things religion believe in), people do good things.
its a weird thought. i hope i sparked some thinking
MCIRONCOCK
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I understand your point. I agree everything would be different. That's why I find it redundant to argue, because no one knows how the world would have formed if the idea of religion was never developed. I wouldn't even consider it worthwhile to speculate about it. There might or might not have been a United States, Canada, England, Ancient Rome or Greece. There might not have been any development. But there might also have been a defining increase of development. In fact...
There might be no internet. Or there might be an ultra internet. I'm rambling, but my point is that there's nothing to be gained by speculating about this.
Riddle me that one, Batman.
There might be no internet. Or there might be an ultra internet. I'm rambling, but my point is that there's nothing to be gained by speculating about this.
Riddle me that one, Batman.
Wrong.
I don't blame you though, you're an engineer, so am I (or rather an engineering student), which means english is probably not your forte. This is why I don't go around trying to correct everyone's grammar.
I have to admit it pisses me off a bit though when people act all cocky because they seem to know everything about anything. Which is the impression I get when reading your posts.
I don't think the initial 9/11 allusion was meant to generalize all religions as being violent. I think that it was meant to show that if there were no religions, there would be no room for extremists groups based on religions.
Of course it is obvious that when we look at the greatness of the human race, it is prettty evident that we would have found other reasons to fight each others, and that the absence of religion would've simply been filled by another brilliant idea of ours.
I am not christian, and I have my reasons. I do believe in science, but I don't think it has the answer to everything, since we need maths to solve most of our problems, and maths relies entirely on abstract concepts.
I would simply like to leave you on this quote, which hopefully will make you realize that what you are doing is pretty useless:
The strong belief proves only its strength, not the truth of what one believes. - Friedrich Nietzche
(Hopefully Google Translator did a good job on that quote, since the original one was :
La croyance forte ne prouve que sa force, non la vérité de ce qu'on croit.)
I don't blame you though, you're an engineer, so am I (or rather an engineering student), which means english is probably not your forte. This is why I don't go around trying to correct everyone's grammar.
I have to admit it pisses me off a bit though when people act all cocky because they seem to know everything about anything. Which is the impression I get when reading your posts.
I don't think the initial 9/11 allusion was meant to generalize all religions as being violent. I think that it was meant to show that if there were no religions, there would be no room for extremists groups based on religions.
Of course it is obvious that when we look at the greatness of the human race, it is prettty evident that we would have found other reasons to fight each others, and that the absence of religion would've simply been filled by another brilliant idea of ours.
I am not christian, and I have my reasons. I do believe in science, but I don't think it has the answer to everything, since we need maths to solve most of our problems, and maths relies entirely on abstract concepts.
I would simply like to leave you on this quote, which hopefully will make you realize that what you are doing is pretty useless:
The strong belief proves only its strength, not the truth of what one believes. - Friedrich Nietzche
(Hopefully Google Translator did a good job on that quote, since the original one was :
La croyance forte ne prouve que sa force, non la vérité de ce qu'on croit.)
summersover
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this thread makes me worried about the world
PeterNorth
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religion is a fucking joke.
MCIRONCOCK
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I quoted the wrong person
/palm
/palm
IceCreamer
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Religion is not only a drug of the masses it is a poison. Religion is a curse to human kind, its over lauded and fairly modest service to the ethical side of humanity is far out shadowed by the irreparable damage it has dealt to the honest and independent human mind.
Shreddysaurus
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im glad someone feels the same way i do
Ski_The_East10
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This.
The main reason religious people act moral is so they can get into heaven which is awful and very selfish..I don't need some mythical being looking over my shoulder to remind me to do good
The main reason religious people act moral is so they can get into heaven which is awful and very selfish..I don't need some mythical being looking over my shoulder to remind me to do good