SNOW: freeride/freestyle skiing game
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SNOWTheGame
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13353173:Aidin954 said:
You will be receiving your founders set and exclusive helmet/skis (and eventually exclusive event) for supporting us early. If you want to customize your character further, you'll have to purchase individual items.
SNOWTheGame
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13353173:Aidin954 said:
B&E will be release around the time of the actual event.
SwitchJibb
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13353494:SNOWTheGame said:
Is there a way to get clothing without paying, like a way to earn in-game currency?
*DUMBCAN*
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Can there be an option to pay once and never make another micro-purchase?
If I was presented with the option of paying £30, roughly the price of a new indie PC game of this scale; versus many small microtransactions I would pay to buy everything. If I wasn't given this option I'd probably spend less than £10 on the game.
I hate the microtransaction model with a passion - buying lots of cheap things feels more expensive than buying one expensive thing, even if it's cheaper.
If I was presented with the option of paying £30, roughly the price of a new indie PC game of this scale; versus many small microtransactions I would pay to buy everything. If I wasn't given this option I'd probably spend less than £10 on the game.
I hate the microtransaction model with a passion - buying lots of cheap things feels more expensive than buying one expensive thing, even if it's cheaper.
GoodasGold
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13353494:SNOWTheGame said:
I'm a little upset about this....I put 30 bucks into an unfinished game, enjoy it and deal with the bugs and support your guys- but you still make us have to do micro-transactions? Why would you do that to early supporters?
MNSkiers
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13353923:GoodasGold said:
Early access was pretty much what funded a lot of the game. I agree with what your saying but you have to look at it from a business standpoint. They are going to make it free to play. How would they get money to fund and keep working on the game? see what im sayin?
Cyabski
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I know that the game has been advertised as free to play and it is kind of late to change that, but i am kind of disappointed in tha fact that after we paid money to get the game, we will have to pay more money to get the stuff that we already had in early acess just because the game became free for other people. That just doesn't make sence. Pretty much what this means is that we bought the game for ourselves to support this amazing project and then you are asking us to cover the cost of all of the free to play versions by buying more stuff. Ask the people who got it for free to pay for gear, not the people who actually paid money to play!!
SNOWTheGame
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Though it has literally always been mentioned on our website and the steam store etc, I totally appreciate that it might come as a shock that eventually you'll have to pay to customize your character. This has always been our intention and we have done our best to communicate this across to our early supporters.
Those of you that have joined the Early Access program are getting exclusive items that are worth more than the price to get the game itself. Between the backer helmets and skis, and the founders set (all which are totally exclusive and unique to only those that joined the Early Access before today) you are getting an entire set of clothing that practically no one else will have.
We are looking into ways of letting users that want to just pay a flat fee do that, but this won't be ready by the time we launch the free-to-play portion of the game in a few weeks.
Free-to-play is a controversial subject because it does ask people to spend money or small things that often don't feel worth the cost. That being said what this also means is that you can spend money on ONLY things that you see value in. If you want to just do races, you can do that. If you want to dress in your favorite brands, you can do that instead. If we charged $60 for this like we would if we released this as a pay-to-play title, you'd get what we make available regardless of if you like the content or not.
What this also means is that we can continue to deliver new content all the time. We will be adding the latest season clothing and equipment from all of our partners (which are now over 12), partnering with event organizers (like B&E, JOI and many more) to bring the latest slopestyle, big air and other courses to the game and creating our own unique content new every year. This simply couldn't work if we just asked you to pay for the game once.
We are doing everything we can to look out for you guys and make sure you're getting the best deal possible. All I ask is that you trust us in our decision and think positively when you join the Closed Beta in a few weeks time.
Those of you that have joined the Early Access program are getting exclusive items that are worth more than the price to get the game itself. Between the backer helmets and skis, and the founders set (all which are totally exclusive and unique to only those that joined the Early Access before today) you are getting an entire set of clothing that practically no one else will have.
We are looking into ways of letting users that want to just pay a flat fee do that, but this won't be ready by the time we launch the free-to-play portion of the game in a few weeks.
Free-to-play is a controversial subject because it does ask people to spend money or small things that often don't feel worth the cost. That being said what this also means is that you can spend money on ONLY things that you see value in. If you want to just do races, you can do that. If you want to dress in your favorite brands, you can do that instead. If we charged $60 for this like we would if we released this as a pay-to-play title, you'd get what we make available regardless of if you like the content or not.
What this also means is that we can continue to deliver new content all the time. We will be adding the latest season clothing and equipment from all of our partners (which are now over 12), partnering with event organizers (like B&E, JOI and many more) to bring the latest slopestyle, big air and other courses to the game and creating our own unique content new every year. This simply couldn't work if we just asked you to pay for the game once.
We are doing everything we can to look out for you guys and make sure you're getting the best deal possible. All I ask is that you trust us in our decision and think positively when you join the Closed Beta in a few weeks time.
*DUMBCAN*
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13354723:SNOWTheGame said:
This idea is like a dead horse that is continuously being beaten by F2P developers. A lot of us just want the whole game, and we'll pay more for that than we will for tiny little bits of it. I don't care if we won't like the content, we still at least want to try it. I see value in everything.
I, and many other people, would give you more money in a one-off payment than I will through micro-transactions. I'm not sure about NS, but it's come up on r/pcmr several times and this is the general consensus.
It's not that I disagree with running F2P and microtransactions, I think they can work together. Just give us the choice.
Chilledham
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Thanks k+
MLJ
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13354723:SNOWTheGame said:
I would honestly be down to pay £40 for the game once off. The game is totally worth that to me, whereas if I were to buy just the outerwear I want, I would get max £20 worth of stuff.
Either way, I think an important question to ask is will there be an advantage to players who pay? Ie faster skis, faster spins better bindings etcetc.
13355147:Aidin954 said:
already there, fly right from the big kicker cliff spawn. Im pretty sure there was a tutorial on how to get there a few pages back.
GoodasGold
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This was my fault for looking at this then, I don't regret my decision at all- I just hope that the benefits of the ski gear and clothing isn't so cheesy that I won't use them. You guys have been doing a great job and I can't wait till the closed beta!
SNOWTheGame
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Items are purely cosmetic and will not provide you with any advantage in gameplay. This is purely so you can individualize yourself and dress how you want.
We are not getting paid by the brands to include them in the game. Quite the opposite actually.
We are not getting paid by the brands to include them in the game. Quite the opposite actually.
Hammyslapwagon
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13355789:SNOWTheGame said:
You guys should definitely throw in a popular hat from Tf2 =D
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SwitchJibb
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13360652:Magz said:Platform initialization failed etc. thanks for making me use that money on nothing
Restarting steam fixed it for me or try verifying game files
SNOWTheGame
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New logo announced before the Closed Beta starts tomorrow!
Cyabski
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13354723:SNOWTheGame said:
I can understand what you are saying, but i look at a game like Minecraft which is a one time payment and is always adding new stuff, and it seems to work pretty well for them too. I know that SNOW Is much harder to develop and is marketable to a smaller number of people, but the idea of bringing people in with the lure of free new stuff and a one time cost i think would make the game more marketable and popular.
MLJ
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13364433:Cyabski said:
Well they did say they are viewing it as an alternate option. Maybe a one time, in game store payment, equal to the usual price of a comparable game to unlock everything, forever? I think something in the region of £40 would be good, ie like 60 bucks or so. What do you guys think? Maybe make it slightly cheaper than buying all of the clothes one by one.
*DUMBCAN*
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13364682:MLJ said:
I wouldn't buy the clothes one by one, I'd spend at most £10 through microtransactions, no more. I hate games with microtransactions, I'm only making an exception for SNOW because skiing.
Also I just got BETA. It looks really good and the mechanics are a bit better, but there are 100x as many bugs as there were and it kinda ruins the experience. Some of them I'm ok with, like the way the skis seem to float slightly below the level of the snow most of the time; but some are really annoying. I'm talking mainly about draw distances.
The default draw distance is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY too short, and the models beyond the draw distance are the kind I'd expect for entities 1km away, rather than 10m. A result of this is you get objects appearing as you get close to them (the pole at 10 o'clock from the park spawn), or only seeing loose frameworks of buildings until you've pretty much skied into them.
Also can we please have the tab shortcut back for respawn, or has it moved? I pretty much instinctively go for it and having to press escape then reach for the mouse to respawn is really annoying.
*DUMBCAN*
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Near-the-top-of-the-page NOOB POST (version 2)
A quick post with some FAQ's that seem to get asked all the time. Maybe a mod can attach some to the OP or I'll just repost this every page, just because it's really annoying when this thread gets bumped to read the same stupid question for the fiftieth time. Thought I should point out that I have nothing to do with the dev time, so everything below is my understanding of the situation. A few meaningless updates from the last pages.
Q: Where do I get it?
A: Buy the game here:http://store.steampowered.com/app/244930/
Register for (free) beta here, you should be invited in a few weeks:http://www.snowthegame.com/
Q: Will it come out for Mac/ when will it be out for Mac?
A: It's likely SNOW will come out for Mac in the future but SNOW do not control
when. SNOW is built using Cryengine, an engine that is currently only
compatible with windows. There have been rumours that Crytek are adapting
Cryengine for Mac, but I don't know any more about this.
Tl, dr: Mac could happen in the future, but not now.
Q: Will it come out for next gen?
A: SNOW has been announced for PS4, but there is no set timescale. It is
unlikely to happen until the game leaves beta, my guess is 2016 at the earliest.
Q: Can I play this on my mac?
A: Sort of. You can run Windows on your Mac in boot camp. I shall not tell you how to do this, use google. Virtual machines are inefficient.
Q: What system specs do I need?
A: From the steam page, minimum 2GHz dual core processor, 4GB RAM, lower-mid range GPU. SNOW will not run on computers using integrated graphics. You will get an error message and the game will fail to start. Steam is not idiot-proof and will not stop you buying the game. That is most macbooks and low-end laptops. Check before you buy, if you buy a game that doesn't work on your computer that's your fault and no-one elses.
Q: When will it be free?
A: Soon. Subscribe to beta through the link above.
Q: I paid for SNOW in alpha, do I get anything in the micro-transaction-land of beta?
A: No. SNOW have been quite clear about this from day one. You paid to support the development of the game, not to have any privileges.
A quick post with some FAQ's that seem to get asked all the time. Maybe a mod can attach some to the OP or I'll just repost this every page, just because it's really annoying when this thread gets bumped to read the same stupid question for the fiftieth time. Thought I should point out that I have nothing to do with the dev time, so everything below is my understanding of the situation. A few meaningless updates from the last pages.
Q: Where do I get it?
A: Buy the game here:http://store.steampowered.com/app/244930/
Register for (free) beta here, you should be invited in a few weeks:http://www.snowthegame.com/
Q: Will it come out for Mac/ when will it be out for Mac?
A: It's likely SNOW will come out for Mac in the future but SNOW do not control
when. SNOW is built using Cryengine, an engine that is currently only
compatible with windows. There have been rumours that Crytek are adapting
Cryengine for Mac, but I don't know any more about this.
Tl, dr: Mac could happen in the future, but not now.
Q: Will it come out for next gen?
A: SNOW has been announced for PS4, but there is no set timescale. It is
unlikely to happen until the game leaves beta, my guess is 2016 at the earliest.
Q: Can I play this on my mac?
A: Sort of. You can run Windows on your Mac in boot camp. I shall not tell you how to do this, use google. Virtual machines are inefficient.
Q: What system specs do I need?
A: From the steam page, minimum 2GHz dual core processor, 4GB RAM, lower-mid range GPU. SNOW will not run on computers using integrated graphics. You will get an error message and the game will fail to start. Steam is not idiot-proof and will not stop you buying the game. That is most macbooks and low-end laptops. Check before you buy, if you buy a game that doesn't work on your computer that's your fault and no-one elses.
Q: When will it be free?
A: Soon. Subscribe to beta through the link above.
Q: I paid for SNOW in alpha, do I get anything in the micro-transaction-land of beta?
A: No. SNOW have been quite clear about this from day one. You paid to support the development of the game, not to have any privileges.
HyphyHusky
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In my opinion, everyone who bought the game should get to keep the gear that was already released and any sequential gear that is released could cost credits. It is kind of annoying how they took away most of the gear that was previously available in the game and now require credits to get it back. I also noticed that the game is running way worse on my computer. I used to get consistently above 30 fps at 1080p in the previous version, but now I get 20 fps. Has anybody else noticed this?
Espen519
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13365384:HyphyHusky said:
THIS, I think if the SNOW team did this people would be complaining ALOT less. The best way for them to deal with this IMHO would be to give everyone who played early access all the gear that was originally unlocked, back to them, and maybe even like 1000 credits to spend on the new stuff that came out. Im not saying that everyone that plays should have all that gear, and they should charge money for that stuff for people coming in now that its F2P
daOyster
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I wouldn't even be mad if they at least unlocked A few more options of clothing for new players. Not even the worst freemium games stick you with one look if you don't decide to do any micro transactions. If you're going to have micro transactions in a game, you can't have half the game locked behind a pay wall.
Spent an hour on the beta last night...
The core gameplay is still not great - by this point they should have riding along and making a few turns feeling a lot more solid and, more importantly, a lot more fun than the beta is currently demonstrating.
I'd sort out the basics before even trying to move onto adding in tricks.
The new UI is a bit better, very clean and "Apple" style, but it's still not clear which icon you are selecting.
Performance is all over the place as well, it's early for optimization but the frame rate drops are very annoying.
Using real money to purchase in game items - if they are going to use the free to play model than why have we paid? Early access is one thing, but changing the entire pricing model is very under hand.
Still, it shows some promise and I really hope that the team can sort out these issues, as there is a lot of passion on show with what they have, but it needs a lot more work.
The core gameplay is still not great - by this point they should have riding along and making a few turns feeling a lot more solid and, more importantly, a lot more fun than the beta is currently demonstrating.
I'd sort out the basics before even trying to move onto adding in tricks.
The new UI is a bit better, very clean and "Apple" style, but it's still not clear which icon you are selecting.
Performance is all over the place as well, it's early for optimization but the frame rate drops are very annoying.
Using real money to purchase in game items - if they are going to use the free to play model than why have we paid? Early access is one thing, but changing the entire pricing model is very under hand.
Still, it shows some promise and I really hope that the team can sort out these issues, as there is a lot of passion on show with what they have, but it needs a lot more work.
SNOWTheGame
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13365055:Aidin954 said:
I really hope you didn't feel that way from our twitter conversation.
We totally get the community's response to the realization that items in-game cost money (and that the 300+ items that were part of the game before are not just given to you) but we do want you to understand the bigger picture. We are working on a blog post to explain our vision so you better understand the direction things are going.
Stay tuned.