Sierra Quitiquit is freaks out over a meme

There have been 3 comments from women in this whole thread, pretty much all of whom have gotten steam rolled by an angry mob of 20 something year old dudes that participate in one of the most elitist sports in the world. Looks us guys, this is disgusting.

It pisses me off that this has turned into shitting on women's skiing and calling Sierra a whore. From the start the industry hasn't done a whole lot to promote women's skiing. There have never been really great women's skis until very recently. A lot of events did not pay equally until very recently, and some still don't. Finally women in skiing have always faced some weird double standards, like having to be attractive. Ingrid and Sarah wore swimsuits and dressed up like FUCKIN school girls in movies. My friends that are sick skiers, but don't post sexy insta pictures do not get the same sponsorship offers that girls that do, but are worse skiers. The SKI INDUSTRY is the one to blame. A lot of ski companies are looking for female models and not trying to prop up the next generation of great female skiers.

But I am probably wrong, and this online forum for 100 of the most jaded, wish they were pro, dude skiers is probably right.
 
14023829:pjbagel said:
There have been 3 comments from women in this whole thread, pretty much all of whom have gotten steam rolled by an angry mob of 20 something year old dudes that participate in one of the most elitist sports in the world. Looks us guys, this is disgusting.

It pisses me off that this has turned into shitting on women's skiing and calling Sierra a whore. From the start the industry hasn't done a whole lot to promote women's skiing. There have never been really great women's skis until very recently. A lot of events did not pay equally until very recently, and some still don't. Finally women in skiing have always faced some weird double standards, like having to be attractive. Ingrid and Sarah wore swimsuits and dressed up like FUCKIN school girls in movies. My friends that are sick skiers, but don't post sexy insta pictures do not get the same sponsorship offers that girls that do, but are worse skiers. The SKI INDUSTRY is the one to blame. A lot of ski companies are looking for female models and not trying to prop up the next generation of great female skiers.

But I am probably wrong, and this online forum for 100 of the most jaded, wish they were pro, dude skiers is probably right.
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I mean the first girl posting in this thread made some posts, then said "don't talk to me, I'm not replying to anybody or listening to logic" when people made constructive replies. Maybe she got steamrolled to some extent but if you post something, it's generally good to be able to back it up, or at least discuss it.

I think her insta is pretty basic, but I'm not a fan of calling somebody a whore for having a shitty ig profile.

Also womens skiing/snowboarding is kind of blowing up. The girls who are throwing down are getting credit. Insta has been going off the last few years. Hell, real snow xgames had a womans part in with the dudes, and it was sick as fuck.

Honestly if a girl puts down bangers on the reg, people will fucking follow her. If she's been led to believe otherwise that's sad. Maybe she'll get more views if it's nothing but lifestyle pics but honestly that makes sense. Most people don't give a fuck about skiing. But most people are attracted to girls or guys. Hot pics will do better than whirly twirlies on some grinderbarz.

Your post is a lot about whats to blame. Is everything fair? Probably not, and that's not specific to women. Things are never completely fair. What isn't going to help is blaming everyone and playing the victim card. What is going to help is women saying "fuck everyone, I'm a killer skier and all you haters can go fuck yourselves". I feel there's been an increase of that, or at least a resurgence. There are some women that just throw the fuck down because they want to, because it's fun, because they're good. Sure you're learning tricks to move up the ranks, and do better in competition, but their are some badasses out there.

Womens pipe(snowboarding at least) has had some slayers throughout history. In both sports the slope and big air side have been lacking. There were years and years, where 180, 180, 360. Maybe a 5 would be the best run(some not even grabbed). Fairly weak rail tricks. People didn't feel motivated to progress. That shits gone now. Women are throwing the fuck down, pretzels fer dayz on rails, people throwing dubs, learning trips. Consistently big spins. You have to be serious to win pro events now.

That said the blame game is fucking dumb. Sure people have been scared out of getting into freestyle by douchebags. That said I feel like the sport is as inviting as it's ever been. Pretty much if you aren't side jumping people are generally chill. Ask anybody in the park for tips on a trick, speed for a jump, and they'll help.

The industry has put a ton of effort into engaging more women in freestyle, touring, even just general getting on the hill and riding. These are good things.

Things aren't perfect, but playing the victim card that hard is a bullshit cop-out imo.
 
14023829:pjbagel said:
There have been 3 comments from women in this whole thread, pretty much all of whom have gotten steam rolled by an angry mob of 20 something year old dudes that participate in one of the most elitist sports in the world. Looks us guys, this is disgusting.

It pisses me off that this has turned into shitting on women's skiing and calling Sierra a whore. From the start the industry hasn't done a whole lot to promote women's skiing. There have never been really great women's skis until very recently. A lot of events did not pay equally until very recently, and some still don't. Finally women in skiing have always faced some weird double standards, like having to be attractive. Ingrid and Sarah wore swimsuits and dressed up like FUCKIN school girls in movies. My friends that are sick skiers, but don't post sexy insta pictures do not get the same sponsorship offers that girls that do, but are worse skiers. The SKI INDUSTRY is the one to blame. A lot of ski companies are looking for female models and not trying to prop up the next generation of great female skiers.

But I am probably wrong, and this online forum for 100 of the most jaded, wish they were pro, dude skiers is probably right.
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If you actually read through the posts most have been supportive of girls skiing and there have been some logical arguments for comp pay for women when only 2 girls show up and grab the cash nomatter what. I dont think really anyone here is against girls shredding or being part of the sport. There have even been a number of "This girl shreds hard AF on instagram but get no attention" or "I saw a girl throw a huge backflip on FWQ I wish she gets more attention" posts.

There have been some cool girls skis since the beginning such as the Rossi Scratch with bamboo topsheets plus tons of skis that have more neutral graphics that girls would dig so that is really not much of a barrier. Ive been skiing ever since the original 1080s came out and from what I remember there has always been some kind of girls options that are on par with mens skis.

Hating on Sierra is actually in agreement with the very double standard you are talking about. Sierra is the very embodiment of playing the industry game to just look hot and prance around the world in a bikini to get sponsors while women who are really training and on the grind get overlooked. At least Ingrid and Burke have a long history of edits to back up their ability and yeah its BS they had to dress up because MSP always has to have some kind of raunchy crap in their films. This is a far cry from Sierra having at least 1/3 of her Instagram being partly to fully naked just to get more followers and attention then hiding behind contrived advocacy on trendy issues like Global Warming and Cannabis. By defending Sierra, you are defending this very system which is going to ruin girls skiing. Every follower Sierra gets reinforces to young girls that their body image and promoting yourself sexually is more important than their skiing ability and even if its harsh someone has to call bullshit on it. Call me a jaded misogynist all you want but my position on this is actually in line with what even Feminists have been advocating for years now.
 
14023382:Lonely said:
"Most of all, create the same opportunities for women athletes. Nobody is going to throw triple corks in competition for half the payout, plain and simple"

Nope. Innovation is definitely not motivated by money. Sometimes they correlate but I don't think any of the original free-skiers or even snowboarders decided to stop cuz "we aren't getting paid enough". Nobody gets paid in this sport for fucks sake.

"Do a little bit of in-depth research on sexual dimorphism and human history. The emergence of men as a biologically stronger sex is 100% rooted in the rise of cultural patriarchalism"

Nope

'In this culture, at this time, men have a proclivity toward selective hereditary traits that have made them, temporarily, stronger on average."

Nope number two

"The woman literally got thrown out of a car for calling out systemic oppression you pop tart."

It's a joke you fucking walnut. Care to explain how it is systemic oppression. Last time I checked there is no one stopping women from doing any of the things men do. At least in the U.S. plenty of people are in shitty position of all races and genders. Culture is shitty. But if you blame everything on culture and society you are part of the problem. You're out of touch.

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I totally agree with these points.

additionally, sponsors of events are going to put their money where it will give them a return. Mens ski events tend to get greater viewership thus sponsors are willing to give away more money for these event since it will get their brand out to more people.

Since womens events dont get as great of viewership, companies arent going to shell out as much money because they wont get their brand out as much.

The difference in pay is not a result of sexism, misogyny or the patriarchy. It is because of economics.
 
A women’s slvsh cup would be dope. They should put this Sierra in it since she is an amazing pro-skier. That would be entertaining.
 
14023837:SuspiciousFish said:
If you actually read through the posts most have been supportive of girls skiing and there have been some logical arguments for comp pay for women when only 2 girls show up and grab the cash nomatter what. I dont think really anyone here is against girls shredding or being part of the sport. There have even been a number of "This girl shreds hard AF on instagram but get no attention" or "I saw a girl throw a huge backflip on FWQ I wish she gets more attention" posts.

There have been some cool girls skis since the beginning such as the Rossi Scratch with bamboo topsheets plus tons of skis that have more neutral graphics that girls would dig so that is really not much of a barrier. Ive been skiing ever since the original 1080s came out and from what I remember there has always been some kind of girls options that are on par with mens skis.

Hating on Sierra is actually in agreement with the very double standard you are talking about. Sierra is the very embodiment of playing the industry game to just look hot and prance around the world in a bikini to get sponsors while women who are really training and on the grind get overlooked. At least Ingrid and Burke have a long history of edits to back up their ability and yeah its BS they had to dress up because MSP always has to have some kind of raunchy crap in their films. This is a far cry from Sierra having at least 1/3 of her Instagram being partly to fully naked just to get more followers and attention then hiding behind contrived advocacy on trendy issues like Global Warming and Cannabis. By defending Sierra, you are defending this very system which is going to ruin girls skiing. Every follower Sierra gets reinforces to young girls that their body image and promoting yourself sexually is more important than their skiing ability and even if its harsh someone has to call bullshit on it. Call me a jaded misogynist all you want but my position on this is actually in line with what even Feminists have been advocating for years now.
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I applaud your responses they are the best in this thread and hit the nail on the head imo.
 
Are ski companies paying her or is she a professional trust fund skier?! WTF!!! The real issue here is stupid selfie taking people (both men and women) that have no talent, stealing sponsor $$ from people that actually deserve it. Preaching to your Insta following is the ultimate confirmation bias! The people that think you're an idiot don't follow you for a reason, so the only people that will write back to you are the ones that are already half way up your ass.
 
She comes from major money in park city. I knew her ex? boyfriend so that's where I have this information.

14023899:bernierosow said:
Are ski companies paying her or is she a professional trust fund skier?! WTF!!! The real issue here is stupid selfie taking people (both men and women) that have no talent, stealing sponsor $$ from people that actually deserve it. Preaching to your Insta following is the ultimate confirmation bias! The people that think you're an idiot don't follow you for a reason, so the only people that will write back to you are the ones that are already half way up your ass.
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14023902:BigPurpleSkiSuit said:
She comes from major money in park city. I knew her ex? boyfriend so that's where I have this information.
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Can you be from Park City and not come from money? Don't imagine too many hoods in PC.
 
14023881:Feldstez said:
A women’s slvsh cup would be dope. They should put this Sierra in it since she is an amazing pro-skier. That would be entertaining.
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a serious womens slvsh cup would do wonders for progression. all for it. kelly better be there
 
Trying to get joe rogan, ben shapiro and sierra in on the podcast. No responses yet but I am hopeful.
 
14023939:Lonely said:
Trying to get joe rogan, ben shapiro and sierra in on the podcast. No responses yet but I am hopeful.
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I'd love to watch ben Shapiro rip her apart in a discussion, granted I dont always like the guy.
 
I cant say ive read half this thread or all of her post, but she did say that she had the same "reach" as men. Can't say I've ever heard of her. From a sponsor's standpoint i would be looking for the athlete with the largest audience. Unfortunately, this happens to be men imo, so shit happens

sad to hear about the molestation bit, titus69's squat logic is pretty poor
 
14023316:emren said:
Please don’t @ me anymore I already said it’s not possible to change people’s mind on the internet and your comments are coming off kinda rude

(And misinformed with a lack of information)

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Newschoolers has always given off a bit of a misogynsitic vibe and this thread has truly magnified it..

I don't know why these dudes think they can speak on something that they have never personally experienced.
 
14023945:gin said:
Newschoolers has always given off a bit of a misogynsitic vibe and this thread has truly magnified it..

I don't know why these dudes think they can speak on something that they have never personally experienced.
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Ah yes the old “Men can’t speak on any issue related to women” tactic.

Sorry the the world isn’t some matriarchal utopia princess
 
14023945:gin said:
I don't know why these _______ think they can speak on something that they have never personally experienced.
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risky biscuts to say on the internet

anyone can speak on anything, its just finding the weight of ones voice that matters
 
14023945:gin said:
Newschoolers has always given off a bit of a misogynsitic vibe and this thread has truly magnified it..

I don't know why these dudes think they can speak on something that they have never personally experienced.
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No arguments there. there definitely have been a few distasteful comments by immature kids in this thread and on instagram. As for skiing in a contest and being paid less compared to someone else? i will agree there too. the vast majority of NS have probably never competed at a high enough level where first the pay would even matter or be something to be upset about and second been in a position to win said pay. have you?
 
14023943:iced said:
I cant say ive read half this thread or all of her post, but she did say that she had the same "reach" as men. Can't say I've ever heard of her. From a sponsor's standpoint i would be looking for the athlete with the largest audience. Unfortunately, this happens to be men imo, so shit happens

sad to hear about the molestation bit, titus69's squat logic is pretty poor
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I see how my logic can be taken as shitty, but you cant say it's wrong, cause all I'm saying is that shes in a line of business where theres fucked up people who pull that shit on their employees. It's just true, I'm not saying she had it coming but being in a position where you have a large following cause you're a model makes you an easy target for that type of shit.

You didnt have to pick that out cause theres more shit to discuss that even Sierra has prioritized.
 
14023945:gin said:
Newschoolers has always given off a bit of a misogynsitic vibe and this thread has truly magnified it..

I don't know why these dudes think they can speak on something that they have never personally experienced.
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It must be hard for you to live as a white woman in America who has rights. In the middle east half the countries don't even let woman drive cars so quit making such a big deal out of it. You live in the USA and share every right that a man does.
 
To my knowledge, there's only one ski movie segment available online that she is featured in... and the only two shots of her are topless B-roll shots in the intro. She's a professional model, not a professional skier; just look at her instagram. She's on skis in maybe one of every ten posts, and the shots of her on skis are seldom anything remotely technical. Nonetheless, I'm sure she's making more than nine out of ten of male 'pro' skiers from her sponsors. I don't want to dismiss what she said about team managers grabbing her ass and whatnot- those are REAL issues that should be addressed (separately from the issue she is addressing). However, Sierra is probably one of the worst people to be complaining about the issues unequal pay and the objectification of women in skiing...

[VIDEO]https://vimeo.com/77177549[/VIDEO]

14023386:littlecat said:
Where are these segments you speak of because

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Haven't embedded anything on this site in a while and I guess that didn't do the trick. Here's the link: https://vimeo.com/77177549

14023982:S.C said:
To my knowledge, there's only one ski movie segment available online that she is featured in... and the only two shots of her are topless B-roll shots in the intro. She's a professional model, not a professional skier; just look at her instagram. She's on skis in maybe one of every ten posts, and the shots of her on skis are seldom anything remotely technical. Nonetheless, I'm sure she's making more than nine out of ten of male 'pro' skiers from her sponsors. I don't want to dismiss what she said about team managers grabbing her ass and whatnot- those are REAL issues that should be addressed (separately from the issue she is addressing). However, Sierra is probably one of the worst people to be complaining about the issues unequal pay and the objectification of women in skiing...

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14023982:S.C said:
To my knowledge, there's only one ski movie segment available online that she is featured in... and the only two shots of her are topless B-roll shots in the intro. She's a professional model, not a professional skier; just look at her instagram. She's on skis in maybe one of every ten posts, and the shots of her on skis are seldom anything remotely technical. Nonetheless, I'm sure she's making more than nine out of ten of male 'pro' skiers from her sponsors. I don't want to dismiss what she said about team managers grabbing her ass and whatnot- those are REAL issues that should be addressed (separately from the issue she is addressing). However, Sierra is probably one of the worst people to be complaining about the issues unequal pay and the objectification of women in skiing...

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14023283:[hank said:
]That would 1000000% change if we stopped subjugating women to domestic roles, discouraging them from athletics, and asserting that extreme sports are a men's field. You want women and men to go head to head? First give them the same chance that men have.
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This is such total, absolute, pure bullshit.
 
14023984:S.C said:
Haven't embedded anything on this site in a while and I guess that didn't do the trick. Here's the link: https://vimeo.com/77177549

To my knowledge, there's only one ski movie segment available online that she is featured in... and the only two shots of her are topless B-roll shots in the intro. She's a professional model, not a professional skier; just look at her instagram. She's on skis in maybe one of every ten posts, and the shots of her on skis are seldom anything remotely technical. Nonetheless, I'm sure she's making more than nine out of ten of male 'pro' skiers from her sponsors. I don't want to dismiss what she said about team managers grabbing her ass and whatnot- those are REAL issues that should be addressed (separately from the issue she is addressing). However, Sierra is probably one of the worst people to be complaining about the issues unequal pay and the objectification of women in skiing...

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Idk why my comment didnt know, but aside that nude thing I think I only saw her in maybe a WME movie and didnt know who she was at the time, shes not a bad skier and seems to be able to send some big stuff.
 
prize money, sponsorship money etc. all come from revenue the sponsors make.

if ad rev is the same for both genders then both should be paid equally.

It's not the companies it's the viewers who can vote on equal pay with their wallets aka their views, ticket purchases, product purchases etc. Companies sponsor athletes for brand recognition, loyalty and marketing. Its all to boost sales and improve revenue. Have ad revenue and sales the same then equal pay will be the same
 
14023973:original said:
Missed it, can anyone provide a summary as to what was said? Curious to hear how that went
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You can watch it on his story still, live stories stay up for 24 hrs or something like that
 
I’m a girl and I’m just going to chime in for a hot sec. Coming from a female who competes in local grassroots rail jams, I can confidently say I don’t think I deserve the same cash purse as men when there are 30 men competing and just 3-8 girls competing. It’s not really about equal pay at the local level. It’s about how many show up to compete. And there aren’t enough showing up in the playing field to deserve the same amount as guys. Hell, i don’t even have to compete in qualifiers in about every rail jam I’ve competed in. Girls automatically advance to finals and some of the best guy skiers I know don’t even make it to finals! At the local grassroots level, I am okay with the cash purse not equaling men. I barely have to try at most rail jams and I usually get at least 3rd place. I don’t deserve $3,000 for barely trying. Just my $0.02. I’m all for women’s rights but Sierra is just doing this to gain clout and that’s mad annoying.
 
My friend entered a rail jam because she knew there were like no women and all she did was 50-50 the rails (snowboarder) and got 3rd and took home $150 meanwhile the men were throwing 630s on to leave with nothing but a smile.

Also didn't read the whole thread but the women's field is so shallow that someone like Elizabeth Swaney can be in the Olympics.

I don't think contest money is ahuge factor in pro skiing as most large events are equal pay already.

What i do want is to progress women's skiing and I'm curious to see if audi nine knights having a seperate course for women is going to help progress women or just shove them to the side
 
Don’t bring up anything about race, politics, gender, etc around the White Man Children of NS. They are extremely sensitive and any controversial subject makes them extremely uncomfortable.
 
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