Revision Messed Up

Yeahhh I ordered Talismans...never got em and multiple times Revision, including Bill Fuckrooy, claimed they refunded me when they didn't. Finally issued a chargeback claim with the bank, but fuck these guys so hard
 
13818996:Karkoskier said:
Because the first time i delt with them they were honestly great with their customer service, and though the quality of the skis were shit I did enjoy the playfulness of them. I got like 20 days on my first pair which i preordered for $250 and they were super quick to replace them and i got another 20 days or so on the next pair. I figured at that rate spending $250 for 2 pairs of skis I'm going to fucking destroy in the park anyways was worth it.

Then I figured hey, they're a newer company I'm sure the quality has improved to I preordered again which was now $350 which wasn't really worth it but I had in mind that I would just blow through the first pair and get another pair.

In both cases with the warranty I was spending under $200 for a pair of skis that I enjoyed to ride in the park which I'd rather do than spend like 400-500 on a pair of skis that MIGHT last longer, but the company would probably not warrant the edge damage. Knowing that Revision was quick to hook me up when I destroyed my edges the previous season, I decided to go with them again this season.

That's what's shocked me the most out of them just completely ignoring people after a while because I had such a great experience with them when they warranted my skis and got me a new pair in less than a week.

Yeah, that sounds pretty damn reasonable to me. I'm sorry this shit went down like this, pretty messed up.
 
13818987:loganimlach said:
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Spray Bill's email, let's fill that inbox

How professional of you, I'm so impressed. Guess Armada doesn't care if you run around doing this kind of thing?

The guy's an asshole, but abusing him isn't going to fix the situation. It'll probably make it even worse. Do you really think receiving this kind of communication is going to make him feel like he should do anything to rectify what's happened?
 
13820071:freshiesbrah said:
How professional of you, I'm so impressed. Guess Armada doesn't care if you run around doing this kind of thing?

The guy's an asshole, but abusing him isn't going to fix the situation. It'll probably make it even worse. Do you really think receiving this kind of communication is going to make him feel like he should do anything to rectify what's happened?

He is not affiliated with Armada anymore just an FYI, and for one is a very genuine dude who does what ever the fuck he pleases, and a lot of people respect that.
 
13820071:freshiesbrah said:
How professional of you, I'm so impressed. Guess Armada doesn't care if you run around doing this kind of thing?

The guy's an asshole, but abusing him isn't going to fix the situation. It'll probably make it even worse. Do you really think receiving this kind of communication is going to make him feel like he should do anything to rectify what's happened?

Logan hasn't worked for Armada since about the time they got bought out...and they probably wouldn't care at all.

It doesn't matter what kind of communication he receives, it's been MONTHS and he hasn't spoken out. If hasn't done it by now, he's not gonna. Not to mention, there is no way this is the first nasty email he's gotten. Honestly, he needs to reap what he has sown at this point. There are consequences to his actions, and if all he has to do is read a few nasty emails, he's getting off ridiculously lightly.
 
13820075:BWalmer said:
Logan hasn't worked for Armada since about the time they got bought out...and they probably wouldn't care at all.

It doesn't matter what kind of communication he receives, it's been MONTHS and he hasn't spoken out. If hasn't done it by now, he's not gonna. Not to mention, there is no way this is the first nasty email he's gotten. Honestly, he needs to reap what he has sown at this point. There are consequences to his actions, and if all he has to do is read a few nasty emails, he's getting off ridiculously lightly.

He should already be in jail...
 
13820071:freshiesbrah said:
How professional of you, I'm so impressed. Guess Armada doesn't care if you run around doing this kind of thing?

The guy's an asshole, but abusing him isn't going to fix the situation. It'll probably make it even worse. Do you really think receiving this kind of communication is going to make him feel like he should do anything to rectify what's happened?

You fucking blow. He isn't with armada and is way more rad then you. You actually think he is going to still do something to rectify this? He isn't. Guy should get nastygrams for the rest of his life. He should be in prison.

Also it's not like armada would give a shit
 
13820073:Swandog7 said:
He is not affiliated with Armada anymore just an FYI, and for one is a very genuine dude who does what ever the fuck he pleases, and a lot of people respect that.

13820075:BWalmer said:
Logan hasn't worked for Armada since about the time they got bought out...and they probably wouldn't care at all.

It doesn't matter what kind of communication he receives, it's been MONTHS and he hasn't spoken out. If hasn't done it by now, he's not gonna. Not to mention, there is no way this is the first nasty email he's gotten. Honestly, he needs to reap what he has sown at this point. There are consequences to his actions, and if all he has to do is read a few nasty emails, he's getting off ridiculously lightly.

13820077:Mingg said:
go change your tampon

13820085:Profahoben_212 said:
You fucking blow. He isn't with armada and is way more rad then you. You actually think he is going to still do something to rectify this? He isn't. Guy should get nastygrams for the rest of his life. He should be in prison.

Also it's not like armada would give a shit

Apologies for not being up to date in the Logan dick sucking club meeting minutes.

It's unprofessional do that kind of thing and work in the ski industry no matter where you're at - unless of course the ski industry for some reason is unlike any other. If someone does something shitty like this you don't send them abusive emails. Do something productive or don't get involved at all, that's the way the real world works; if you are yet to find out what life is like beyond highschool and summer camps at Hood on your parents dime then I don't blame you, I guess.

Logan offering up skis earlier in the thread is what I call productive and highly worthy of respect, not this.
 
13820104:freshiesbrah said:
Apologies for not being up to date in the Logan dick sucking club meeting minutes.

It's unprofessional do that kind of thing and work in the ski industry no matter where you're at - unless of course the ski industry for some reason is unlike any other. If someone does something shitty like this you don't send them abusive emails. Do something productive or don't get involved at all, that's the way the real world works; if you are yet to find out what life is like beyond highschool and summer camps at Hood on your parents dime then I don't blame you, I guess.

Logan offering up skis earlier in the thread is what I call productive and highly worthy of respect, not this.

is this bill wanrooy himself?
 
13820104:freshiesbrah said:
Apologies for not being up to date in the Logan dick sucking club meeting minutes.

It's unprofessional do that kind of thing and work in the ski industry no matter where you're at - unless of course the ski industry for some reason is unlike any other. If someone does something shitty like this you don't send them abusive emails. Do something productive or don't get involved at all, that's the way the real world works; if you are yet to find out what life is like beyond highschool and summer camps at Hood on your parents dime then I don't blame you, I guess.

Logan offering up skis earlier in the thread is what I call productive and highly worthy of respect, not this.

Usually I would agree with you that this is unprofessional. Looking at it for literally what it is with 0 background, yup, 95% of people would agree.

But this kind of thing isn't a professional situation either. By that I mean what revision has done is fucking wrong no matter how you look at it. I don't think anyone can defend them at this point. Revision won't respond or communicate whatsoever so it's hard to see any other perspective here.

It's not simply a bad business decision. It's not an athlete being dropped. It's not a price increase. It's this company/dude fucking over hundreds of homies in an already small market and refusing to help, accept responsibility, etc.

Because of this, I really see nothing wrong with calling out revision on their bullshit. They've had the chance to make things right with their customers. Some even were refunded by their banks and that refund was reversed by revision. If they really were trying to settle this why continue to fuck over people?

sorry for the rant. I originally just wanted to make a joke lol but yeah. I see where you're coming from. I just don't view this as a typical situation nor a professional one to begin with. So it's hard to view it as such.
 
13820104:freshiesbrah said:
Apologies for not being up to date in the Logan dick sucking club meeting minutes.

It's unprofessional do that kind of thing and work in the ski industry no matter where you're at - unless of course the ski industry for some reason is unlike any other. If someone does something shitty like this you don't send them abusive emails. Do something productive or don't get involved at all, that's the way the real world works; if you are yet to find out what life is like beyond highschool and summer camps at Hood on your parents dime then I don't blame you, I guess.

Logan offering up skis earlier in the thread is what I call productive and highly worthy of respect, not this.

No arguments here, that email was super unprofessional and completely unprovoked as I don't really have chips in this pot. But adhering to "professionalism" is something that I, personally, haven't found useful since my time in the oil and gas industry, long before the ski industry. Sure, sometimes you spout off and get pecker slapped, but I've found that everyone, from your piers to CEOs of multinational corporations, appreciate being genuine over cloaking your personality in some flaccid facade and call it being "professional". So with that being said....

Suck my dick.
 
13820109:loganimlach said:
No arguments here, that email was super unprofessional and completely unprovoked as I don't really have chips in this pot. But adhering to "professionalism" is something that I, personally, haven't found useful since my time in the oil and gas industry, long before the ski industry. Sure, sometimes you spout off and get pecker slapped, but I've found that everyone, from your piers to CEOs of multinational corporations, appreciate being genuine over cloaking your personality in some flaccid facade and call it being "professional". So with that being said....

Suck my dick.

*peers
 
13820109:loganimlach said:
No arguments here, that email was super unprofessional and completely unprovoked as I don't really have chips in this pot. But adhering to "professionalism" is something that I, personally, haven't found useful since my time in the oil and gas industry, long before the ski industry. Sure, sometimes you spout off and get pecker slapped, but I've found that everyone, from your piers to CEOs of multinational corporations, appreciate being genuine over cloaking your personality in some flaccid facade and call it being "professional". So with that being said....

Suck my dick.

You'll be waiting a while before I get to you, the line here is pretty long
 
13820071:freshiesbrah said:
How professional of you, I'm so impressed. Guess Armada doesn't care if you run around doing this kind of thing?

The guy's an asshole, but abusing him isn't going to fix the situation. It'll probably make it even worse. Do you really think receiving this kind of communication is going to make him feel like he should do anything to rectify what's happened?

What Revision and Bill are doing and did was way more unprpfessional than an email that was probably not even read.

Also, the ski industry is not built on skiers being professional in a business sense, polite or sophisticated.
 
13820109:loganimlach said:
No arguments here, that email was super unprofessional and completely unprovoked as I don't really have chips in this pot. But adhering to "professionalism" is something that I, personally, haven't found useful since my time in the oil and gas industry, long before the ski industry. Sure, sometimes you spout off and get pecker slapped, but I've found that everyone, from your piers to CEOs of multinational corporations, appreciate being genuine over cloaking your personality in some flaccid facade and call it being "professional". So with that being said....

Suck my dick.

I love you.
 
Not adding anything new here but thought I would chip in - same boat as many, pre-ordered Talismans in August, eventually asked for a refund around December, was told it had been processed, still nothing. Used a currency card to pay for them to avoid shitty exchange rates from £ to $ so it's proving difficult to dispute the charge. Pretty much accepting it as $380 down the drain. If anyone has any advice it would be appreciated.
 
Anyone that lives near this guy and hasnt gone to comfront him os a chicken shit. Seriously get together with friends and beat this fuckers ass if youre too big of a pussy to do it yourself. Fuck i wish he lived in mn
 
13755258:-Dan said:
And you didn't trash them. Nothing wrong here. Great thread really. I'm just super opinionated on the related topic of supporting core brands. Glad you decided to take a chance with one. When you get the skis you'll have a blast.

Just would like a follow up to said comment.
 
13820336:Fred_Bear said:
Anyone that lives near this guy and hasnt gone to comfront him os a chicken shit. Seriously get together with friends and beat this fuckers ass if youre too big of a pussy to do it yourself. Fuck i wish he lived in mn

Norma with would disagree, but this guy needs some sense knocked into him
 
13820336:Fred_Bear said:
Anyone that lives near this guy and hasnt gone to comfront him os a chicken shit. Seriously get together with friends and beat this fuckers ass if youre too big of a pussy to do it yourself. Fuck i wish he lived in mn

Fuck I would gladly do it for you guys if I lived anywhere close to him. Nothing better than a beatdown for justice.
 
I wonder how much money total this fuck got and ran with. Just still in shock that nobody seems to know this guy personally enough to know wtf is going on with him.
 
13820336:Fred_Bear said:
Anyone that lives near this guy and hasnt gone to comfront him os a chicken shit. Seriously get together with friends and beat this fuckers ass if youre too big of a pussy to do it yourself. Fuck i wish he lived in mn

13820414:Rparr said:
Fuck I would gladly do it for you guys if I lived anywhere close to him. Nothing better than a beatdown for justice.

damn you guys are badass
 
How about we use this as an excuse for an NS meet up, we could all meet at his house give him a beat down in the name of justice then caravan to Hood, Mammoth, or Squaw? What do y'all think?
 
13820607:Skates_skis said:
How about we use this as an excuse for an NS meet up, we could all meet at his house give him a beat down in the name of justice then caravan to Hood, Mammoth, or Squaw? What do y'all think?

I'd be down if I had skis to ski on...
 
13820607:Skates_skis said:
How about we use this as an excuse for an NS meet up, we could all meet at his house give him a beat down in the name of justice then caravan to Hood, Mammoth, or Squaw? What do y'all think?

I join if you pay me the trip from Spain
 
13820109:loganimlach said:
No arguments here, that email was super unprofessional and completely unprovoked as I don't really have chips in this pot. But adhering to "professionalism" is something that I, personally, haven't found useful since my time in the oil and gas industry, long before the ski industry. Sure, sometimes you spout off and get pecker slapped, but I've found that everyone, from your piers to CEOs of multinational corporations, appreciate being genuine over cloaking your personality in some flaccid facade and call it being "professional". So with that being said....

Suck my dick.

fuck yes
 
heading to denver area tomorrow, i know it's earlier in the thread, but what's revision's address? and what should i do to their property
 
13820775:G-Bola said:
heading to denver area tomorrow, i know it's earlier in the thread, but what's revision's address? and what should i do to their property

Rent an excavator and go to town
 
13820775:G-Bola said:
heading to denver area tomorrow, i know it's earlier in the thread, but what's revision's address? and what should i do to their property

Seriously, walk in there with a go pro or something and call them out. Have the names of the people who posted here saying they dont have their preorders refunded or fulfilled and be a huge ass hole until they throw you out. Then post that shit all over.

Then rent the excavator and go to town.
 
13820330:aroge said:
Not adding anything new here but thought I would chip in - same boat as many, pre-ordered Talismans in August, eventually asked for a refund around December, was told it had been processed, still nothing. Used a currency card to pay for them to avoid shitty exchange rates from £ to $ so it's proving difficult to dispute the charge. Pretty much accepting it as $380 down the drain. If anyone has any advice it would be appreciated.

I would recommend reaching out to your bank/card company and asking if you can still issue a charge-back on your account. However, because it's been so long, they may have trouble finding the transaction (I ran into this problem when getting my refund back around mid-March but it got sorted out).

Also, if your bank is able to find the transaction and issue a charge-back, Revision might try to hit you with some "It's been past 120 days so you can't legally get your money back" spiel that is complete bullshit.

But yeah, contact the people who handle your money and you might still have a chance at getting it back
 
to echo a lot of other people in this thread, i have no idea why nothing has been done about this yet. also where's that expose, NS?
 
13820899:Shewlur... said:
to echo a lot of other people in this thread, i have no idea why nothing has been done about this yet. also where's that expose, NS?

nothing has been done about this because nothing has been done about this

who do you think is going to spend the time and money doing something? you think some lawyer was going to hear about this and come produce a class action lawsuit against some shitty fly-by-night ski company? or do you think one of the boned customers is going to add expensive and time-consuming legal action over a pair of skis into their already packed work and lifestyle?

people have shit to do. the proactive customers have done what they can through their bank and gone back to living their lives. i don't know who or what you expect to be putting time and money into this
 
13820878:ozzywrong said:
go do a shitty backflip off a 2 foot jump while changing your tampon !! That would be really impressive

dO a ShItTy BaCkFlip

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13820912:SofaKingSick said:
nothing has been done about this because nothing has been done about this

who do you think is going to spend the time and money doing something? you think some lawyer was going to hear about this and come produce a class action lawsuit against some shitty fly-by-night ski company? or do you think one of the boned customers is going to add expensive and time-consuming legal action over a pair of skis into their already packed work and lifestyle?

people have shit to do. the proactive customers have done what they can through their bank and gone back to living their lives. i don't know who or what you expect to be putting time and money into this

it's the perfect crime
 
13820912:SofaKingSick said:
nothing has been done about this because nothing has been done about this

who do you think is going to spend the time and money doing something? you think some lawyer was going to hear about this and come produce a class action lawsuit against some shitty fly-by-night ski company? or do you think one of the boned customers is going to add expensive and time-consuming legal action over a pair of skis into their already packed work and lifestyle?

people have shit to do. the proactive customers have done what they can through their bank and gone back to living their lives. i don't know who or what you expect to be putting time and money into this

meh, even if legitimate legal action isn't taken i would think that pressure within the ski community would force them to do something. revision has some pretty prominent riders, one of which was in an edit on the front page of newschoolers (the jiberish edit). lots of other people in the ski industry know this Bill scumbag - has no one close to him reached out to figure out what the fuck is going on? I guess at this stage in the game it might be too late but it amazes me that there hasn't been any formal (or informal) backlash from those directly associated with Revision or those close to Bill
 
13821048:Shewlur... said:
meh, even if legitimate legal action isn't taken i would think that pressure within the ski community would force them to do something. revision has some pretty prominent riders, one of which was in an edit on the front page of newschoolers (the jiberish edit). lots of other people in the ski industry know this Bill scumbag - has no one close to him reached out to figure out what the fuck is going on? I guess at this stage in the game it might be too late but it amazes me that there hasn't been any formal (or informal) backlash from those directly associated with Revision or those close to Bill

Exactly what I've been wondering, he's a ski company owner in Colorado, I think other ski company owners, reps, or athletes would know him too and be in frequent contact. He pay people to stay quiet? Lol
 
13821075:Titus69 said:
Exactly what I've been wondering, he's a ski company owner in Colorado, I think other ski company owners, reps, or athletes would know him too and be in frequent contact. He pay people to stay quiet? Lol

He stopped answering my calls and texts, and deleted his personal Facebook and Instagram
 
13821075:Titus69 said:
Exactly what I've been wondering, he's a ski company owner in Colorado,

The main dude lives around Grand Rapids, MI. There was a Colorado partner or rep also named Bill. The Colorado address is just a mail box store (like po boxes).

Lets go to his house see if we can catch him in person and get some answers. NS, you wanna throw down for a couple plane tickets and hotel rooms for an exclusive story?
 
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