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The British empire collapsed in the 1940s and 1950s. The former British colonies (except the White ones and India) would not have continued learning English for no reason. The reason people have continued to learn English for the past 70 years is the US. You can see this in some former French colonies like Vietnam. France lost most of its influence and now people learn English. It's even more apparent after the fall of the Soviet Union. Places like Romania, Czech Republic, and Poland now teach English to their kids instead of Russian. This shows just how fast it can change.

So the reason that most young people in the world speak (some) English is that the US is the world's dominant power and has been for 80 years. It doesn't really matter that England was the dominant power 100 years ago

14625749:KungKalmar said:
no.

We Nordics would be speaking swedish like we still kind of do. One had a lil identity crisis and invented some shitty language out of nowhere. Thanks to 'murica I don't have to worry about speaking Russian it the future because when someone steps over the line I have bigger problems to worry about (end of the world).

I would say English became the lingua franca because of British colonization. They had a lil empire back in the days. Like you can see from the map that tells every place in the world where they went and conquered.

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You might have helped in 1900s. You can't do little helping in the end and claim you are the only reason why it's so popular.
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14625766:VTshredder69 said:
Wouldn't you be speaking Norwegian? Since They were axis powers and easily would have kicked your ass with some nazi help?
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Probably not since you can speak swedish to norwegian and it will understand what you said. That war would have never happened. We don't want to kill each other and Sweden was exporting Iron ore to Germany even though it was "neutral".
 
14625770:KungKalmar said:
Probably not since you can speak swedish to norwegian and it will understand what you said. That war would have never happened. We don't want to kill each other and Sweden was exporting Iron ore to Germany even though it was "neutral".
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Interesting. Well i love sweden because they make great metal.
 
14625768:SlushSeason said:
So the reason that most young people in the world speak (some) English is that the US is the world's dominant power and has been for 80 years. It doesn't really matter that England was the dominant power 100 years ago
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I guess the point in 1900s USA dominance is valid, but saying that the country that spread the language to the world is not important is stupid. The reason you are speaking english is because of the English colonization. "The use of English in the United States is a result of British colonization of the Americas" -Wikipedia.

You can't just look at the last 80 years when the modern version of the language and it's history has been around since the 18th century. I have to give more weight to the last 80 years and you have look further than the last 80 years. After all history is sum of things and there is always more than 1 side to the story.
 
14625775:KungKalmar said:
I guess the point in 1900s USA dominance is valid, but saying that the country that spread the language to the world is not important is stupid. The reason you are speaking english is because of the English colonization. "The use of English in the United States is a result of British colonization of the Americas" -Wikipedia.

You can't just look at the last 80 years when the modern version of the language and it's history has been around since the 18th century. I have to give more weight to the last 80 years and you have look further than the last 80 years. After all history is sum of things and there is always more than 1 side to the story.
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Both can be true. The reason old English became prevalent was the British.

The reason majority of the world speaks and teaches English’s a now is because of the dominance of the US.

The international Language for flying is aviation English which is made of general words and US English.

the reality is without the dominance of the US during ww2 your country would likely no longer exist. You would have been absorbed by likely Russia or Germany as they continued to gain more power and ground. Even if hitler died when he did without the US developing and dropping the atomic bombs Japan would have continued to fight and spread as well.

you are correct about the British colonization prior but that became Irrelevant during ww2 as they were no longer the dominant power and were taking Significant losses. Without the Manhattan Project the world would be very different than it is right now.
 
14625778:PartyBullshiit said:
the reality is without the dominance of the US during ww2 your country would likely no longer exist. You would have been absorbed by likely Russia or Germany as they continued to gain more power and ground. Even if hitler died when he did without the US developing and dropping the atomic bombs Japan would have continued to fight and spread as well.

Without the Manhattan Project the world would be very different than it is right now.
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My history knowledge ended like 2 posts ago and I'm too tired read more Wikipedia. But because I'm stubborn and blaa blaa I'm going to answer.

If my country would not exist anymore the people would not either. We fight until there is not a single man alive. Being under Russia or Soviet union has not been an option after 1917. So from their point of view it would have been useless to try again.

Without the dominance of US our country could be actually bigger. While Germany was doing Germany things in the south we were able to go all the way to Petroskoi. But Germany was fighting multiple fronts which obviously meant that they didn't have full power to attack USSR in the south. Weaker opponent in the west or wherever you were would have given the opportunity to move more people to the east. So without the US, Nazis would have had more power to attack USSR which would have been better for us because we were also in USSR zone. Too many possibilities for a real theory.

Don't have any idea what would have happened in Lapland war without the US since I have no Idea what Germany was doing at the time other than burning people in Poland and our shit in the north. But it probably would not have happened. Anyways It's too complicated to think it with out the US. Too many variables and possibilities for my brain. Also thinking of alternative theory is bit useless but here I am anyway.

Manhattan project was the biggest mistake in the history of humanity.
 
Why do rats have to be so fucking smart? I set a bunch of rat and mouse traps in my shed last weekend and already caught 5 mice, but zero luck from the rats. They're too big for most cats to hunt too

I've been watching the Mousetrap Monday guy on YouTube and he has plenty more strategies to try, but i feel like we should have solved the worldwide rat infestation by now.
 
14625781:KungKalmar said:
My history knowledge ended like 2 posts ago and I'm too tired read more Wikipedia. But because I'm stubborn and blaa blaa I'm going to answer.

If my country would not exist anymore the people would not either. We fight until there is not a single man alive. Being under Russia or Soviet union has not been an option after 1917. So from their point of view it would have been useless to try again.

Without the dominance of US our country could be actually bigger. While Germany was doing Germany things in the south we were able to go all the way to Petroskoi. But Germany was fighting multiple fronts which obviously meant that they didn't have full power to attack USSR in the south. Weaker opponent in the west or wherever you were would have given the opportunity to move more people to the east. So without the US, Nazis would have had more power to attack USSR which would have been better for us because we were also in USSR zone. Too many possibilities for a real theory.

Don't have any idea what would have happened in Lapland war without the US since I have no Idea what Germany was doing at the time other than burning people in Poland and our shit in the north. But it probably would not have happened. Anyways It's too complicated to think it with out the US. Too many variables and possibilities for my brain. Also thinking of alternative theory is bit useless but here I am anyway.

Manhattan project was the biggest mistake in the history of humanity.
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You are correct. Your country would have been much bigger. And it would have been called Russia. You’d be eating potatoes and borscht
 
14625781:KungKalmar said:
Manhattan project was the biggest mistake in the history of humanity.
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You clearly need to do more research just based off this comment alone.

You do realize every axis was working on an atomic program, Germany, ussr, Japan, Britain all had active programs. The difference was we just had the best people and succeed first.

so even without the Manhattan project the only difference would have been someone else would have succeeded before us. Likely ussr as they were already known to be testing weapons which is what accelerated the Manhattan project.

we didn’t create the idea of nuclear weapons. We just won the race and ended the war. You’re welcome.
 
14625813:PartyBullshiit said:
You clearly need to do more research just based off this comment alone.

You do realize every axis was working on an atomic program, Germany, ussr, Japan, Britain all had active programs. The difference was we just had the best people and succeed first.

so even without the Manhattan project the only difference would have been someone else would have succeeded before us. Likely ussr as they were already known to be testing weapons which is what accelerated the Manhattan project.

we didn’t create the idea of nuclear weapons. We just won the race and ended the war. You’re welcome.
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You don't think making weapons powerful enough to destroy most of humanity was a mistake? Doesn't matter who won the race, it was a mistake.
 
14625860:KungKalmar said:
You don't think making weapons powerful enough to destroy most of humanity was a mistake? Doesn't matter who won the race, it was a mistake.
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You’re missing the point. Everyone was developing those weapons. It wasn’t just the US. If the Germans or ussr had developed them prior to the US, your country among many others around you may not exist period. Hitler wanted those weapons to literally wipe the surrounding counties off the map. The ussr wanted those weapons to annihilate competitors around them.

so i go back to my original point that you’re seeming to gloss over which is why you need to do more research to understand what your commenting on. The manhattan project was not conceived to end humanity or control the world as the Germans, ussr, and japan had been trying to do.

We created those weapons because we knew countries with evil intentions were already developing and testing those weapons and were intending to use them to wipe other counties off the map. We won the race to show a use of force that would end the world war. Which it did.

We chose to use them on Japan because they were trying to conquer the pacific and then move into striking the US which they did when they struck Pearl Harbor. We were largely removed from all war activity being on a separate continent from the war.

once we stuck Japan we ceased use of atomic weapons because they surrendered. We didn’t continue use and then strike other countries because that was never the end goal of the project.

you should watch Oppenheimer to gain a slightly better understanding of when and why the project was initiated and why it ended.
 

Btw. Please don’t start any conversation about factual stuff with “don’t have time to Wikipedia that” you already ended any factual conversation using that site that can be manipulated by anyone to change “facts” as they see fit. Do some real research and don’t rely on “user updated” site.
 
14625864:PartyBullshiit said:
Btw. Please don’t start any conversation about factual stuff with “don’t have time to Wikipedia that” you already ended any factual conversation using that site that can be manipulated by anyone to change “facts” as they see fit. Do some real research and don’t rely on “user updated” site.
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Wikipedia is one of the best sources for information online. You can become an armchair expert in no time in anything. It's not just some place where people write random stuff. Things are fact checked. What is the point to check else where when the "real" sources are linked to the wikipedia article. History articles are probably more biased towords the west but that is the same shit that is taught in our schools anyway.

also It wasn't really factual stuff because it was thinking about alternative reality that never happened.
 
14625862:PartyBullshiit said:
You’re missing the point. Everyone was developing those weapons. It wasn’t just the US. If the Germans or ussr had developed them prior to the US, your country among many others around you may not exist period. Hitler wanted those weapons to literally wipe the surrounding counties off the map. The ussr wanted those weapons to annihilate competitors around them.

so i go back to my original point that you’re seeming to gloss over which is why you need to do more research to understand what your commenting on. The manhattan project was not conceived to end humanity or control the world as the Germans, ussr, and japan had been trying to do.

We created those weapons because we knew countries with evil intentions were already developing and testing those weapons and were intending to use them to wipe other counties off the map. We won the race to show a use of force that would end the world war. Which it did.

We chose to use them on Japan because they were trying to conquer the pacific and then move into striking the US which they did when they struck Pearl Harbor. We were largely removed from all war activity being on a separate continent from the war.

once we stuck Japan we ceased use of atomic weapons because they surrendered. We didn’t continue use and then strike other countries because that was never the end goal of the project.

you should watch Oppenheimer to gain a slightly better understanding of when and why the project was initiated and why it ended.
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It was mistake and it will be a mistake when few people decides to press their red buttons.
 
14625813:PartyBullshiit said:
You clearly need to do more research just based off this comment alone.

You do realize every axis was working on an atomic program, Germany, ussr, Japan, Britain all had active programs. The difference was we just had the best people and succeed first.

so even without the Manhattan project the only difference would have been someone else would have succeeded before us. Likely ussr as they were already known to be testing weapons which is what accelerated the Manhattan project.

we didn’t create the idea of nuclear weapons. We just won the race and ended the war. You’re welcome.
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Fun fact the Germans where actually decently close to succeeding in their pursuit of the A bomb until a group of Norwegian resistance fighters skied into a gnarly fjord and blew up a secret heavy water plant. It was called Operation Gunnerside and the skiers are now known as the Heros of Telemark

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14625872:KungKalmar said:
Wikipedia is one of the best sources for information online. You can become an armchair expert in no time in anything. It's not just some place where people write random stuff. Things are fact checked. What is the point to check else where when the "real" sources are linked to the wikipedia article. History articles are probably more biased towords the west but that is the same shit that is taught in our schools anyway.

also It wasn't really factual stuff because it was thinking about alternative reality that never happened.
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Not even close homie. You have A LOT to learn.

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14625876:Sivvy said:
Fun fact the Germans where actually decently close to succeeding in their pursuit of the A bomb until a group of Norwegian resistance fighters skied into a gnarly fjord and blew up a secret heavy water plant. It was called Operation Gunnerside and the skiers are now known as the Heros of Telemark

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Thanks for proving my point.
 
There was a show on Netflix about it called Heavy Water War. It was good.

I have so many things I want to say about this WW2 back and forth but I’m staying out of it.

14625876:Sivvy said:
Fun fact the Germans were actually decently close to succeeding in their pursuit of the A bomb until a group of Norwegian resistance fighters skied into a gnarly fjord and blew up a secret heavy water plant. It was called Operation Gunnerside and the skiers are now known as the Heros of Telemark

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14625877:PartyBullshiit said:
Not even close homie. You have A LOT to learn.

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There is difference between writing formal papers and writing half-assed posts in the internet and there is nothing better for that than Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is more reliable than lot of other options coming up from companies with pure money making purposes.

Best and the worst part of it is that it can be edited by anyone. You usually have to provide a source for your editing and these sources include school papers, real journalism, books and news articles. When you put the sources together it creates a nice surface level info of the topic. Articles are edited by multiple people with multiple sources which results in more non-biases pages unlike news and journalism that can be used to push their own agenda more than the truth.

Wikipedia pages update with time unlike older news articles that come up. You can even see every single version of the page that has existed. Vandalism is the bad part, sometimes it goes unnoticed for few hours, sometimes for few months(which shouldn't really happen anymore) in less popular articles.

Lot of the popular pages are protected from vandalism by verified wikipedians and AI or bots or whatever they are.

Wikipedia is definitely reliable enough as a source for internet posts, fun facts and everyday information. It's even more reliable when it comes to non-controversial topics.

I'm not going to skim trough research papers or reports so I can say something stupid.
 
14625906:KungKalmar said:
There is difference between writing formal papers and writing half-assed posts in the internet and there is nothing better for that than Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is more reliable than lot of other options coming up from companies with pure money making purposes.

Best and the worst part of it is that it can be edited by anyone. You usually have to provide a source for your editing and these sources include school papers, real journalism, books and news articles. When you put the sources together it creates a nice surface level info of the topic. Articles are edited by multiple people with multiple sources which results in more non-biases pages unlike news and journalism that can be used to push their own agenda more than the truth.

Wikipedia pages update with time unlike older news articles that come up. You can even see every single version of the page that has existed. Vandalism is the bad part, sometimes it goes unnoticed for few hours, sometimes for few months(which shouldn't really happen anymore) in less popular articles.

Lot of the popular pages are protected from vandalism by verified wikipedians and AI or bots or whatever they are.

Wikipedia is definitely reliable enough as a source for internet posts, fun facts and everyday information. It's even more reliable when it comes to non-controversial topics.

I'm not going to skim trough research papers or reports so I can say something stupid.
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The fact it can be edited by anyone is the exact reason it cannot be considered a reliable source of factual information. Again you have a lot to learn.
https://usingsources.fas.harvard.edu/what’s-wrong-wikipedia
 
14625937:cyphers said:
your article literally says it's good enough to settle arguments and get basic info. nobody here is writing a harvard thesis. lay off dude
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Article makes it clear why it’s not a reliable source of information. Which was the point. Basic information is not the same as factual information. When someone tries to make a claim that the “us” was at fault for creating all nuclear weapons that needs to be backed by facts.
 
14625943:KungKalmar said:
That is not what I said.
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You didn’t say every major country creating nuclear weapons was the worst thing for humanity.

You said the “Manhattan project” was the worst thing for humanity. Implying it was the US who was at fault for creating nuclear weapons. so ya you did.
 
14625944:PartyBullshiit said:
You didn’t say every major country creating nuclear weapons was the worst thing for humanity.

You said the “Manhattan project” was the worst thing for humanity. Implying it was the US who was at fault for creating nuclear weapons. so ya you did.
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Not really.

Manhattan project was the only one that ended to usage of the bombs. So it can hold to the position of the worst mistake like I said until someone decides push their red button.

Then I said making atomic bombs was a mistake and it didn't matter who won the race which means it was bad from everyone involved in creating atomic bombs . And then I said it was a mistake. So there is not a single sentence that says The us was at fault for creating all nuclear weapons. The US is at fault for creating nuclear weapons and using them, not at fault for creating all nuclear weapons. There is a difference. You can't read something between the lines and claim that is what I said.
 
14625953:KungKalmar said:
Not really.

Manhattan project was the only one that ended to usage of the bombs. So it can hold to the position of the worst mistake like I said until someone decides push their red button.

Then I said making atomic bombs was a mistake and it didn't matter who won the race which means it was bad from everyone involved in creating atomic bombs . And then I said it was a mistake. So there is not a single sentence that says The us was at fault for creating all nuclear weapons. The US is at fault for creating nuclear weapons and using them, not at fault for creating all nuclear weapons. There is a difference. You can't read something between the lines and claim that is what I said.
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You only changed your tune after I corrected you and gave you the factual information that other counties had already been building and testing nuclear weapons.

You didn’t say the Manhattan project was bad because we used them first or because we won the race. If your point was that any nuclear weapons were a bad idea you would have said that, but you didn’t. You focused solely on the manhattan project while completely ignoring the fact other counties had already been testing and building them.

You can try to twist your words all you want. You know what you were implying by solely focusing on the US’s project. Which is fine. You don’t actually know the history of the atomic programs. Which what goes back to my point. Actually research this stuff if you want to comment on it so you actually know what you’re talking about.

You openly said you really don’t know what you’re talking about and are too lazy to actually educate yourself. The problem

is you’re already gone down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories regarding actual research because you have a preconceived idea of what happened and how “nothing but wiki” can be unbiased and factual. So you don’t actually care about the facts. You just care about what makes you feel right.
 
I have an irrational fear of driving I-70 but there's a lot of shit I need to get done before the season that's all in either Silverthorne or Denver. But hey, never been to either before in my life I guess so thats a plus.
 
14625962:GayWolf420 said:
I have an irrational fear of driving I-70 but there's a lot of shit I need to get done before the season that's all in either Silverthorne or Denver. But hey, never been to either before in my life I guess so thats a plus.
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Look at it as an adventure! You got this.
 
14625961:Rock_Inhabitant said:
This is a skiing website full of spliff smokers bro ain’t no one gonna cite a actual goddamn research paper
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No one is saying cite a research papers. The point of the link is just to show wiki

is bullshit. Always has been always will be.

When anyone can manipulate what’s posted on it and nothing is actually fact checked in any way as well as factually false stuff being posted with no recourse just shows how and why it’s universally known to be an unreliable source of information.

The problem is people have become so lazy when it comes to actually learning stuff they’ve been engrained to believe wiki is reliable and assume “well it’s on wiki so it must be true”

if you want to comment on ww2 or how nuclear programs came to be there is plenty of resources out there to actually learn real information.
 
You mean you’ve never had the pleasure of being tailgated by a Texan in an F-250 with bald tires??

But in all seriousness, it’s way more toned down in summer.

14625962:GayWolf420 said:
I have an irrational fear of driving I-70 but there's a lot of shit I need to get done before the season that's all in either Silverthorne or Denver. But hey, never been to either before in my life I guess so thats a plus.
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14625937:cyphers said:
your article literally says it's good enough to settle arguments and get basic info. nobody here is writing a harvard thesis. lay off dude
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Bro even then you can absolutely use wikipedia in your research for writing. Don't use it in your actual paper......but It's great with citing the original sources for you to actually use in your papers. While giving distilled info quickly lmao

I had multiple professors in my masters who even used wikipedia in lectures and shit lmao

It's really not that frowned upon in the real world

That and we're on fucking new schoolers lmao. What do you want? AMA citations? Lmao
 
14625962:GayWolf420 said:
I have an irrational fear of driving I-70 but there's a lot of shit I need to get done before the season that's all in either Silverthorne or Denver. But hey, never been to either before in my life I guess so thats a plus.
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you can go 40 to highway 9 in kremling and then head to silvy that way. its the same amount of time but no traffic and 2 lanes with a few passing lanes the whole time. mad chill. but also go to level 1 film fest in denver lol.
 
I just bought my tickets ?️ ⛷️

14625987:partyandBS said:
you can go 40 to highway 9 in kremling and then head to silvy that way. its the same amount of time but no traffic and 2 lanes with a few passing lanes the whole time. mad chill. but also go to level 1 film fest in denver lol.
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14625987:partyandBS said:
you can go 40 to highway 9 in kremling and then head to silvy that way. its the same amount of time but no traffic and 2 lanes with a few passing lanes the whole time. mad chill. but also go to level 1 film fest in denver lol.
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my boss went ahead and signed me up for work all weekend :( but at least the bike is fixed.
 
14625766:VTshredder69 said:
Wouldn't you be speaking Norwegian? Since They were axis powers and easily would have kicked your ass with some nazi help?
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ur a uneducated bufoon, norway wasnt an axis power it was conquered by germany.
 
14626100:BallClapper said:
Me too. Bro you seem to be having a lot of issues lately. You good?
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Im doing alright. Super long summer. Lots of highs and lows but incredible experiences to say the least. First summer in Colorado has been fun. Just struggling to figure out myself and still nervous about living on my own in an entirely new place for once.
 
14626104:GayWolf420 said:
Im doing alright. Super long summer. Lots of highs and lows but incredible experiences to say the least. First summer in Colorado has been fun. Just struggling to figure out myself and still nervous about living on my own in an entirely new place for once.
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Giving just moved out of the parent's crib vibes. ?
 
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