Percocets

They should be. The main reason opiate addicts are looked at as pieces of shit is because they have to devote 100 percent of their time and effort to getting money for drugs. In Switzerland heroin addicts are given free heroin by the government. So for them their addiction simply entails taking a 10 minute detour twice a day to the hat maintanance clinic. They have jobs homes lives,,, way different than a society like America which forces addicts to live horrible lives trying to pay the enormous cost of their addiction. Takes an open mind to understand this, or for people who have been lucky enough to see the ideal society that is Switzerland, so I'm sure a bunch of ignorant or poorly travelled fucks will disagree with me because mommy and daddy told them drugs are bad.
 
wow this is actually such an open minded view. I will take things you say now with more weight
 
Suboxone is alot worse than any opiate which is why American treatment thru suboxone or methadone (also worse) is such a joke. America has its head up its ass regarding addiction treatment
 
And it is very different in the us because suboxone/ methadone are not full agonists. Nobody wants those things, and addicts hardly ever stick to their substitution treatment in America. In America there is a moral agenda "heroin addicts are bad so we are not going to solve their problems by maintains them on heroin, we are going to give them some trash they don't want (suboxone, methadone) to punish them. The Swiss and the us could not be farther apart
 
I got some for my broken shoulder, and it basically just makes you space out hard with a little but of a euphoric feeling. It's not that great... I'd much rather smoke a bowl. Most definitely

I saw someone say something about morphine, and it does wonders when you actually need it with a major injury, it takes away the pain and improves your mood, sorta like a drunk high. But taking it while not injured would be straight fucked, really trippy and scary
 
Grippy and scary lol. You guys really need to stop reassuring yourselfs with retarded conjecture as to what "it would be like" if you took opiates without an injury. Seriously you sound like an idiot. You can say opiates are bad because of addiction etc. But if you think the opiate high is anything besides awesome your an idiot
 
i really don't know much about opiates myself. the numbers just go along with the refining process right? "black tar" and whatnot i never understood and i never even had any interest. when i was a kid my cousin used to do H and i always got creeped out when he was around. i didn't realize why until i was told thats what his problem. Fortunately that made me scared of the stuff.

anyways i don't understand why someone would rather shoot up and do nothing with your life. when i drink and do coke i make friends with everyone, even hobos and police officers as long as i'm not too fucked up.

anyone dabble with GHB? no hangover and it kind of feels like drinking but more euphoric. throw in a couple lines and its fucking awesome.
 
honestly if you have an addictive personality it doesn't matter the drug, if you get addicted to things easily even with small things, don't do a drug that has a high addiction rate because then you're done for
 


don't let kids on NS read this post please...

so "the high is just that awesome" how's the withdrawal feel? how's the feeling even when you're high that you only feel that good BECAUSE you're high.

 
yeah, 3 is H base and 4 is a salt. 4 has to be mixed with citric acid to be consumed if I'm not mistaken. they also contain different percentages of h to morphine. ultimately, they all get you to the same spot...it's just different mfg methods used in different parts of the world. like i said, you don't find 4 in the US for the most part and you don't find 3 in the UK. (from what I've read)

what a lot of people don't understand is that opiates don't make all people "do nothing". quite contrary, actually. some people "make friends with everyone, even hobos and police officers as long as they're not too fucked up" when on opiates...just another aspect that makes them so highly addictive.
 
Atleast one other person in this thread knows what they are talking about. Everything you have said from IV effectiveness to the waste of insufflating benzos.

Congratulations.... I guess?
 
Same with me. I've shot dope and skied a few times. Gives you tons of energy and is a ton of fun. It's funny these kids talking out of their asses. Reminds me of the cop who smoked weed and called 911 saying that he thought he was dead. That's what you noobs sound like
 
ya man ive shot dope before its pretty cool, except i was all tied off and about to shoot up but my mom knocked on my door and said scott do the fucking dishes you lazy sack of shit, so i just said fuck you mom im trying to shoot my dope and she said fuck you do the dishes so i shot that shit then went down to do the dishes and my cat mr. bungles was scratching me so i shoved him down the garbage disposal then started watching porn in the livinvg room but nodded off with my junk out then my younger sister and her friends got home from middle school, fuck you noobs i do H all day erry day
 
im not gonna sit here and preach to people, but i've done them for 3 and a halh years and this past summer i was addicted to them heavily. I was doing 30's as we call em blueberries percs, snacks what ever but ive had a solid group of 7 of my best friends fall into them.

I would go back to college each semester and quit cold turkey, no sleep, p-anger all day but eventually was fine and im clean now. As for my friends who dont go to college they have been seriously lost in these drugs and some have resorted to stealing, ripping off, forging checks. And atleast 5 of them have stoped doing percs and gone to Heroine because its cheaper and better high. I have seen pills tear my town apart and friends. It truely has been sad when i go home and see everyone and just cant relate anymore.

That being said opiates are by far the worst drug epidemic cause i see it as a growing gateway drug for alot of young people. Like one of you guys have been saying all through out the posts you feel like a god chilled relax and i agree 100%, its going to get muchhh worse before it gets better.

who ever is looking at this thread "curious" "interested" dont bother youl be broke addicted and a different person in no time.
 
I agree there's a ton of bad shit that comes with opiate addiction, but if you've seen trainspotting you'll know there's two sides to the coin. They are the ultimate pleasure and misery wrapped into one
 
pretty big distribution of #4 coming from south america which can be easily ordered. at least thats what SR is telling me.
 
but yea you're right about opiates. i did percs a couple of times (i'm not going to lie) i'm glad i stopped when i did. but sure, i loved talking to people.
 
why shouldn't they read it? plenty of people have talked about the negative side of the drug. shouldn't they get to hear both sides and then decide for themselves? the more info they have the better
 
valid argument i guess. i'm just keeping the young kids in mind because they can be easily influenced.
 
very true, but they'll be just as influenced by the negative comments as the positive ones, and there are many more many negative comments than positive.
 
I don't think kids should get into any of this during their formative years. As for adults 18 and up is different. As for percocets they are extremely weak so I wouldn't worry as much as I would if we were talking about stronger stuff like dope and dils etc. plenty of kids on here read the I'm drunk thread and still don't drink so. Wait till college kids.
 
This and also there are alot of addicts who needlessly suffer the lifestyle of being a drug addict in America when in countries like Switzerland they have taken alot of pain out of addicts lives by supplying them with clean pure heroin for free. The status quo supporters in America would like subjects like this to not be talked about so that opiate use remains "taboo" in society and addicts are looked at as morally deficient so that the true worthless trash in America that watch nancy grace and sleep well at night knowing that the "evil addicts" are being put in jail.

HAT (heroin assisted treatment) has been so successful in Switzerland that it has been adopted by Germany, the Netherlands, and the uk. In addition the countries Austria Bulgaria and Slovenia have been using morphine as a substitute for heroin addicts to be maintained on that they take in a pharmacy every morning. It turns out that giving the addicts an adequate dose of what they want (full agonist opiates) will satisfy the part of their life that craves drugs and shrink it down so that they can function as normal people who simply have to stop by a pharmacy or HAT clinic once or twice a day. Anybody who understands how relatively non existent crime is in countries like Switzerland or Austria will understand that Europe is on the ball with the solution to the problem of opiate addiction.

Addiction isn't going anywhere. The best treatment is the one that brings the greatest harm reduction and shrinks the part of addicts lives that has to do with drugs down to the smallest size.
 
dolan - harm reduction?? heaven forbid we do anything that makes sense in the country. it's all about prohibition....because that's OBVIOUSLY the best solution to the problem.
 
and percs are mostly tylenol with 5 - 10 mg of oxycodone mixed in. so no, you don't really win anything.

and please people, PLEASE quit referring to oxy 15 or 30 IRs as perc 15s or 30s or whatever. Percocet contains 5-10 mg of oxycodone with anywhere from 325 - 750 mg of APAP (tylenol). They do not make 30 mg percs. percs contain tylenol. oxys do not. there is a difference.
 
lol if only you knew son son.... I win trust me.....

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I don't put shit on weed. LMAO. Percs are minor. Get some lollipops then we can talk. and im dead at this dude in here thinking hes like a pill expert.
 
with those pictures, you win. with the perc pics, meh, whatever. however, his statement was correct in that all percs are are very low dose oxy mixed with tylenol. Percocet is just the brand name kind of like Vicodin or Oxycontin.
 
lol, or people who are like "yeah i do oxys all the time but fuck heroin. i don't want to be a junky." as if they aren't a junky just because they bang pills over dope. people are dumb....it's all the same in the end....all comes from the same fucking plant.
 
i had no idea percs were only 5-10 mg. i was doing these blue 30mg ones. i guess they were OC, the kid who i split them with just called them percs.

we used to blow lines of them too. it is quite pleasurable for sure. but the kid i used to do them with got addicted and failed school so i didn't bother anymore. i threw up the first time. typical with opiates i guess?

but anyways drugs definitely interest me. both in experience and research. i still don't respect people who are addicted to them though.
 
Your grouping all addicts together. Not everybody turns into a sheisty thief. Some people can deal with their shit without becoming selfish bastards. I too don't respect sheisty addicts
 
It's more like if you are a douchbag underneath, opiate addiction will expose you. This one kid I know is a huge douchbag but thinking about it he never wasn't a douchbag.
 
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